Society/Culture Horse racing is cruel

[The Passenger]

As a casual horse racing fan, but formerly a pretty big fan these issues do hit a bit of a nerve.

It's an interesting sport with some good people in the industry, but - as is the lot when gambling is involved - has some very unscrupulous characters, whether they be bookies, punters, trainers, jockeys or combination thereof.

For any supporters of horse racing, to deny these latest revelations - which are less revelation and more the lifting of an inconvenient open secret - are anything but damaging would be akin to having your head up your proverbial behind.

As a follower, but very much a loose follower these days, I find it near on impossible to believe that there isn't a better way and a middle ground between outright banning (which won't happen for a long time - if ever) and rampant over breeding.

 

[yodellinhank]

It's been working for me.

What breed are you?

 

[RobbieK]

We are simply poles apart on the way we perceive the sport. I'm happy to leave it at that, and you should be, too.

The "sport" is organised animal cruelty sustained by overbreeding and wastage. Yes, we are poles apart. You are happy to leave this discussion here because you simply have little to no care about what the animals are forced to endure for your entertainment and have no way of justifying it.

Maybe you should ask Chief to shut down the punting board.

I'd happily see that happen, but no doubt it brings valuable hits to the website which is worth more than a few thousand dead horses a year.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

I was just about to post this. I wonder what their cats and/or dogs think when they put out a plate of soybeans for them?
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You feed then dry with bones as treats. Give them tinned food and clean up that horrible, stinking, flyblown mess.

 

[Lebbo73]

What breed are you?

Half

 

[Seeds]

Australians aren't eating enough fruit and vegetables, a shift to veganism would address this far bigger nutritional deficit.

Do you feel tired more than other people? Ive never met a vegetarian who isnt always feeling tired.

 

[Engimal v3]

Wait until you find out what happens with greyhounds. Much easier to hide a dog's body. Racing is such a s**t industry, hope it all goes belly up.

 

[Lebbo73]

Wait until you find out what happens with greyhounds. Much easier to hide a dog's body. Racing is such a s**t industry, hope it all goes belly up.

Your hope has two chances: buckleys and none.

 

[Lethality]

Do you feel tired more than other people? Ive never met a vegetarian who isnt always feeling tired.

Novak Djokovic is a vegetarian. He seems to have plenty of energy.

 

[woota]

Novak Djokovic is a vegetarian. He seems to have plenty of energy.

Another idiot who thinks "plant based" and "vegetarian" are synonyms.

Djokovic is not vegetarian. He has written a book called Serve to Win that shows his daily meal plan, which includes tuna, salmon, and chicken.

 

[HairyO]

How many other sports are able to survive without gambling revenue?

I'd argue that horse and dog racing is a gambling venture first and foremost, then the rest.

Most can survive. But the priority is to make masses of money. And that requires gambling.

 

[Taylor]

Most can survive. But the priority is to make masses of money. And that requires gambling.

If there was a total betting ban on horse and dog racing, would there be an industry in ten years?

I think there would still be AFL, Cricket etc.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

lol at the industry picking Barry O'Farrell as their spokesperson. Best known for having to quit as NSW Premier for corruption. These people live in a bubble.

 

[Lethality]

Another idiot who thinks "plant based" and "vegetarian" are synonyms.

Djokovic is not vegetarian. He has written a book called Serve to Win that shows his daily meal plan, which includes tuna, salmon, and chicken.

Still dispels the myth that red meat is where energy comes from.

 

[Lethality]

Your hope has two chances: buckleys and none.

Who would've thought video shops would go extinct within ten years. Libraries going down the same path. The end could come very quickly for horse racing.

 

[Lebbo73]

lol at the industry picking Barry O'Farrell as their spokesperson. Best known for having to quit as NSW Premier for corruption. These people live in a bubble.

A bottle of wine *******

 

[Bomberboyokay]

I'm not sure driving it underground will benefit the welfare of the animals.

Let's say horse racing is banned. How does it continue "underground"? It's not (human) boxing where you only need a windowless room and a wrasslin ring.

 

[Lebbo73]

Who would've thought video shops would go extinct within ten years. Libraries going down the same path. The end could come very quickly for horse racing.

Go back to the AFLX, AFLW and AFLM with your bs. Who are you supporting next season for the first few rounds?

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Maybe you should ask Chief to shut down the punting board.

If Chief were sincere about being "family friendly" - instead of using that as an excuse to selectively remove content some advertisers don't like (why else?) - he'd do exactly that. Instead, he accepts blood money.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Wait until you find out what happens with greyhounds. Much easier to hide a dog's body. Racing is such a s**t industry, hope it all goes belly up.

I remember years ago they were finding 100s of them with their ears cut off.

I was working afternoon shift at Barwon prison about 10 or so years ago.

Day shift had all gone home so our carpark was pretty much empty. I was up in the control room watching a camera as a station wagon pulled up under a tree towing one of those greyhound trailers. A bloke got out and took his dog's out 1 at a time and was tubing them (we weren't all that far from Beckley Park greyhound track). I rang the stewards on course and gave them a description and rego number, they knew who it was. I looked up the stewards report the next day, there were no late scratchings or mentions of any penalties.

 

[Bombermania]

Red meat is more associated with strength than energy. Tennis players usually follow a lighter diet than AFL footballers do for example as they don't rely on bulking up like AFL footballers do.

 

[Ron The Bear]

I remember years ago they were finding 100s of them with their ears cut off.

I was working afternoon shift at Barwon prison about 10 or so years ago.

Day shift had all gone home so our carpark was pretty much empty. I was up in the control room watching a camera as a station wagon pulled up under a tree towing one of those greyhound trailers. A bloke got out and took his dog's out 1 at a time and was tubing them (we weren't all that far from Beckley Park greyhound track). I rang the stewards on course and gave them a description and rego number, they knew who it was. I looked up the stewards report the next day, there were no late scratchings or mentions of any penalties.

You need a video to make s**t happen. It all started with Rodney King.

 

[rank and file]

Let's say horse racing is banned. How does it continue "underground"? It's not (human) boxing where you only need a windowless room and a wrasslin ring.

Fair point,but if you ban it loads of animals are going to be killed.
Abattoirs won't be able to keep up.

 

[Seeds]

Still dispels the myth that red meat is where energy comes from.

A myth that no one has considered since the 1970s.

 

[HairyO]

If there was a total betting ban on horse and dog racing, would there be an industry in ten years?

I think there would still be AFL, Cricket etc.

Dogs would disappear in 3 months. Horses maybe make 10 years or even more. Prize money would be totally different. I think there is still a lot of people who have a passing interest without gambling.

But I also wonder how you stop SP bookies, or stop overseas bookies.