Preview Geelong v Melbourne Sun Apr 11 @ MCG 3:20 pm - Rd 4, 2021

[CatToTheFuture]

If Zuthrie is lining up at the starting bounce then you can bet the house it's because Henry is forward

 

[ShaunWDT]

Far from a Zuthrie fan but we didn't exactly have a great deal of options

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

It's a mystery, but the club is hellbent on giving him absolutely every chance possible of making it. There'd be plenty others scratching their head wishing they received such treatment over the years, but it is what it is. Hopefully he proves us wrong and turns into a solid player.

So they're going to do what they did with his brother then?

 

[calder_daddy]

Zuthrie killed it in the VFL last week so he should get a game. Wait that's right no VFL last week

He was 2nd best on ground in the last one played

 

[foxdog50]

Thinking it has to be work load
Holmes did speak about how he got pretty sore in the 4th and cramped up badly

I still could of thought 5 players in front.of him.... but his another defender. So we need that

 

[cats_09]

Quoting what I posted at 10:04am on Tuesday

Holmes is one I'm thinking may be a 75/25 to play against Melbourne, and it's not so much that he'd be omitted & sent straight back to the VFL but more about how he pulls up after the match, and if he & the coaches/medical/fitness staff feel he can back it up in 6 days time or needs to be managed after yesterday's effort

He's admitted to cramping up early in the last quarter yesterday and I feel like he spent a good portion of time on the bench in the last

Hoping he pulls up & recovers ok as I'd like to see him given more games, there was promising signs there yesterday but also don't want to run the kid into the ground too early

 

[catempire]

So Holmes likely the injury sub? Maybe they are trying to manage his game time as he seemed to blow up late on Monday.

 

[Shadow89]

Bringing Zuthrie in and then omitting Holmes is just classic Geelong - not that we're blessed with options in any case. Agree that Holmes looked stuffed by the end, and was cramping up something fierce. Hopefully he's the sub this week instead

 

[Drunkcat]

Far from a Zuthrie fan but we didn't exactly have a great deal of options

I would have give SDK a game can play back forward or even ruck

 

[calder_daddy]

I still could of thought 5 players in front.of him.... but his another defender. So we need that

I call BS you can name 5 others in front of him

 

[Hamingja]

The Zuthrieometer is fairly ugly reading.

When Zuthrie is listed as an "in" on selection night:

Rd 15 2017 - Draw
Rd 20 2017 - Loss
Qualifying Final - Loss
Rd 1 2018 - Win
Rd 6 2018 - Loss
Rd 13 2018 - Loss
Rd 7 2019 - Win
Rd 1 2020 - Loss
Rd 10 2020 - Win
Rd 16 2020 - Win
Rd 1 2021 - Loss

Overall 36% winning ratio.

Geelong's overall winning ratio between 2017 to current is 64%.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I still could of thought 5 players in front.of him.... but his another defender. So we need that

If you think about it you can see the logic. Henry rolls forward again so we need a defender. Which means Holmes isn't being pushed out by Zuthrie, he's being pushed out by Menegola

 

[calder_daddy]

The Zuthrieometer is fairly ugly reading.

When Zuthrie is listed as an "in" on selection night:

Rd 15 2017 - Draw
Rd 20 2017 - Loss
Qualifying Final - Loss
Rd 1 2018 - Win
Rd 6 2018 - Loss
Rd 13 2018 - Loss
Rd 7 2019 - Win
Rd 1 2020 - Loss
Rd 10 2020 - Win
Rd 16 2020 - Win
Rd 1 2021 - Loss

Overall 36% winning ratio.

Geelong's overall winning ratio between 2017 to current is 64%.

Someone point that out to the MC

 

[CatToTheFuture]

The Zuthrieometer is fairly ugly reading.

When Zuthrie is listed as an "in" on selection night:

Rd 15 2017 - Draw
Rd 20 2017 - Loss
Qualifying Final - Loss
Rd 1 2018 - Win
Rd 6 2018 - Loss
Rd 13 2018 - Loss
Rd 7 2019 - Win
Rd 1 2020 - Loss
Rd 10 2020 - Win
Rd 16 2020 - Win
Rd 1 2021 - Loss

Overall 36% winning ratio.

Geelong's overall winning ratio between 2017 to current is 64%.

Probably indicates that when we bring him in we have a fair old injury list

 

[ShaunWDT]

So Holmes likely the injury sub? Maybe they are trying to manage his game time as he seemed to blow up late on Monday.

Everyone else played VFL didnt they? Has to be Holmes SUB.

 

[Scottland2007]

Only 11 defenders. For shame Geelong! Couldn’t find a few more?

 

[catempire]

The Zuthrieometer is fairly ugly reading.

When Zuthrie is listed as an "in" on selection night:

Rd 15 2017 - Draw
Rd 20 2017 - Loss
Qualifying Final - Loss
Rd 1 2018 - Win
Rd 6 2018 - Loss
Rd 13 2018 - Loss
Rd 7 2019 - Win
Rd 1 2020 - Loss
Rd 10 2020 - Win
Rd 16 2020 - Win
Rd 1 2021 - Loss

Overall 36% winning ratio.

Geelong's overall winning ratio between 2017 to current is 64%.

Probably not too surprising given he tends to play when we have a number of forced outs. I imagine it’s fairly similar for other fringe players.

 

[catempire]

Everyone else played VFL didnt they? Has to be Holmes SUB.

Yeah I just heard Narkle played half a game today so he’s probably being held over for emergency.

 

[cats_09]

Everyone else played VFL didnt they? Has to be Holmes SUB.

Seems Narkle only played half of today's match - so maybe a smokey for the sub vest

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Seems Narkle only played half of today's match - so maybe a smokey for the sub vest

Back to the 2019 late change shenanigans?

 

[cats_09]

Bringing Zuthrie in and then omitting Holmes is just classic Geelong - not that we're blessed with options in any case. Agree that Holmes looked stuffed by the end, and was cramping up something fierce. Hopefully he's the sub this week instead

Problem is that if we say "managed" for Holmes, I don't think we can keep him on as an emergency or make him the sub

Not sure he's omitted omitted as with Constable who went back to the VFL but more managed omitted

 

[cats_09]

Back to the 2019 late change shenanigans?

Or just needing to keep someone else available just in case

 

[calder_daddy]

Zuthries in is definitely interesting considering last week CS said we had too many defenders in our team
Yet we take out 3 mids and bring in 1 mid, 1 forward and 1 backman

Nothing is surer that Henry starts forward

What id Like to see though and a lot will find this strange is play Zuthrie as a defensive forward in Lever

 

[STPer18]

Sorry, but dropping Holmes after one game for the ever-disappointing Zac Guthrie is a sick joke. Pathetic even.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

We dropped Holmes and brought in Zuthrie?

fu** this club lmfao

Holmes barely ran out the game. It was a change I was expecting on the train home. To me showed glimpses but not ready.