Thanks scomo, everyone knows 80% vaccinated is hard to achieve. More spin, we’ll never ‘open up’ with our current set of politicians (of all colours)

[Obeanie1]

Yep, done. Now what? Wait for this pie in the sky number to be met before it means anything at all changes

It means you may not contract covid and if you do get it you survive.

That means something I would suggest.

 

[Obeanie1]

Simple. No vaxx - no Job, No vaxx - no government benefits. Anti vaxxer propagandists should face long gaol terms where they are dabbed and jabbed

No vax no air travel is another.

Not interested in the greater good? You lose some of your freedoms.

 

[Demons09]

Google covid vaccinations per capita by state in Australia.

Spoiler alert:

Labour states are in front.

Whats that got to do with his post.

 

[wowlace]

Whats that got to do with his post.

That a labour government would have Australia open much earlier than what the libs will via better vaccination rates.

I thought it was self evident.

 

[Sttew]

And returning Aussies who are vaccinated and quote ‘ low risk to the population’ have to wait for 70% to be vaccinated? So are put in HQ with infected people.

we won’t get to move forward until the current leadership is replaced , but the scared population is clinging to them.

Scott Morrison confirms greater freedoms for Australians when 70 per cent are fully vaccinated — SBS News

Prime Minister Scott Morrison says national cabinet has agreed to the targets that will get Australians out of coronavirus restrictions.

apple.news

Your name is so apt. Politics aside, why can’t we achieve 80%?

150 days x 150,000 (200,000 vaccinated in one day at moment) = 22,500,000 vaccinations by 25 December 2021

 

[amazingjoshy]

It means you may not contract covid and if you do get it you survive.

That means something I would suggest.

Yeah no s**t, cheers. Thats why I got it done

This threads about opening up

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Yeah no sh*t, cheers. Thats why I got it done

This threads about opening up

No s**t Sherlock. Far tougher restrictions are required on overseas arrivals. Month long quarantines in facilities outside Cities and Towns. Nothing short of 100% is a nonsense target.

 

[Obeanie1]

No sh*t Sherlock. Far tougher restrictions are required on overseas arrivals. Month long quarantines in facilities outside Cities and Towns. Nothing short of 100% is a nonsense target.

What?

Are you saying the target should be 100% before opening up and no lockdowns?

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

What?

Are you saying the target should be 100% before opening up and no lockdowns?

Lockdowns are obviously critical. The Brisbane outbreak is dire inc because the infected med student visited both major hospitals while infectious

 

[Obeanie1]

Lockdowns are obviously critical. The Brisbane outbreak is dire inc because the infected med student visited both major hospitals while infectious

That sounds not good.

But we cant wait until 100% of people are vacinated before openning up.

And we wont.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Of course we can open up when there are no outbreaks.

 

[Shannon M]

It’s sociopathic when people star talking about the greater good.

 

[wowlace]

Your name is so apt. Politics aside, why can’t we achieve 80%?

150 days x 150,000 (200,000 vaccinated in one day at moment) = 22,500,000 vaccinations by 25 December 2021

Assuming that vax rate holds. Which it won't.

 

[Pessimistic]

Ok but this is where Scomo isn’t using spin for once, 80% is the number generally accepted as needed to obtain herd immunity. Anything lower than that and you increase the risk substantially of more widespread transmission and cases/deaths.

Now if we get there is another question, and if we don’t due to anti vaxxers, then there will come a point when we just say screw it and open up regardless of the vaccination percentage at that point. But for the next 4-5 months they need to entice as many people as possible to get vaccinated and giving a percentage goal/incentives helps to do that.

The 80% may be a theoretical, but not proven anywhere. UK after a massive effort is 60% double jab, but there is also residual infected people. They think the next 2-4 weeks figures in UK will bring more proof than theory. Actual verified herd immunity.
But there’s a lot more incentive to jab in UK. It does not exist in aus. Scomo knows that (and the premiers who are also in on this IMO)

 

[Pessimistic]

No sh*t Sherlock. Far tougher restrictions are required on overseas arrivals. Month long quarantines in facilities outside Cities and Towns. Nothing short of 100% is a nonsense target.

‘people are contracting it in quarantine and leaving infected, while the people who gave it to them are coming out non infectious.
Increase to a month and the rate of this happening will go up too

 

[Pessimistic]

There was nothing like the sight of refrigerated trailers full of bodies parked on street corners to get people literally running to get
vaccinated overseas. Fear works. Sometimes I wish the governments here would add a zero or two onto the case and death numbers
here to put the wind up people who are waiting for a good hair day or the vaccine to be the right colour. No chance of that of course
as governments all over the country pretending they have everything under control and everything is going just great and one day the
virus will just magically disappear.

Our governments have their sights firmly on their next election and fear is a easier than a competent vaccination program.

There is a Timewhen they should do what’s right. And they aren’t.

btw did people miss the bit that every state individually must reach the target too. It’s set up to fail and it won’t be scomos fault

 

[Xtreme]

Get vaccinated, it’s pretty simple

I'll get vaccinated after they've done 5-10 years of research first.

Or ScoMo ponies up for a 100 inch tv

 

[Sttew]

Assuming that vax rate holds. Which it won't.

Even if it halves to 100,000 a day, that’s 15,000,000

 

[Pessimistic]

I'll get vaccinated after they've done 5-10 years of research first.

Or ScoMo ponies up for a 100 inch tv

Scomo would ‘promise a ‘400 inch tv…. Once someone makes one

 

[Pessimistic]

Even if it halves to 100,000 a day, that’s 15,000,000

feel like itemising the countries where it’s happened?

 

[wowlace]

I'll get vaccinated after they've done 5-10 years of research first.

Or ScoMo ponies up for a 100 inch tv

Pussy

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Google covid vaccinations per capita by state in Australia.

Spoiler alert:

Labour states are in front.

What?

16+ fully vaccinated %

• Tasmania (Coalition) = 24.4%
• Victoria (Labor) = 19.2%
• SA (Coalition) = 19.2%
• NSW (Coalition) = 19.1%
• Queensland (Labor) = 18.3%
• WA (Labor) = 16.1%

Haven't included the territories.

 

[Sttew]

feel like itemising the countries where it’s happened?

Irrelevant. My point is that 70-80% is achievable

 

[amazingjoshy]

Irrelevant. My point is that 70-80% is achievable

There's a massive amount of hesitancy about the vaccines still. Normal, reasonable people who are more than happy to put it off for as long as they can.

I reckon it slows/stalls significantly at around the 60-70% mark personally. Hope I'm wrong

 

[Pessimistic]

There's a massive amount of hesitancy about the vaccines still. Normal, reasonable people who are more than happy to put it off for as long as they can.

I reckon it slows/stalls significantly at around the 60-70% mark personally. Hope I'm wrong

Im in the uk and took my daughter (age 19 so now eligible) to a 7 day vaccination unit. No queue to speak of. Obviously not conclusive but I reckon you are right.

people here are removing the app so they don’t get ‘pinged’ but also schoolkids etc are faking positives to get off school. It will be a while before the figures show the true picture

also if your motivation is purely to be able to travel, there’s no point doing that till the ‘rest’ get near 80%. But scomo knows that. His precious’s religious cult is happily discriminatory