Traded Tylar Young [Traded to West Coast for Pick #38]

[croweater 41]

I like it for the Eagles

 

[Citizen Erazed]

Richmond probably haven't even bothered to take Clarke off the internal distribution lists

 

[nameless]

And so many blindly defend everything the club does as though being pushovers at trade week every year and winning 11 games in 4 years and having a list that isn't very good couldn't possibly be related in any way shape or form.

None of the trades we've done in the last 5, 6, 7 years - in isolation - are going to set the club back years as hack journos put out for clicks, but the cumulative effect is there for all to see. That admin are feeble and timid and have no concept of leverage, bargaining, negotiation etc. It's harming the club's chances of getting out of the hole we're in.

WC had 34, 38, 41, 53. Does anyone seriously believe if roles were reversed we wouldn't have just accepted pick 53?

Carlton had picks 41 and 54 available for Chesser by your logic West Coast would have accepted pick 54 for Chesser, but we didn't, we got 41...so no if roles were reversed we wouldn't have just accepted pick 53.

The blight we're in now isn't caused by Clarke who came in a year or so ago, it's the prior administration who chased another flag, failed, didn't capitalise on moving on players and then got stung by those players falling off a cliff suddenly and several years of failed drafts / trades. Some self-inflicted, some just bad luck.

I believe the last 2 years have been our best drafts for near on a decade and can see the team that is being built is one that will challenge in years to come.
Whether we got there using picks 38 or 41 or 22 or 23 will be irrelevant.

 

[WillHayward]

On average Pick 38 plays 50 odd games according to draft guru. https://www.draftguru.com.au/picks
Some picks, such as 40, ave 93 games, are artificially inflated due to the old FS picks. ( 40 has Ablett Jnr, Josh Kennedy and Jobe Watson for example. So not a lot to give up based on that.

Young has played 7 solid games since coming back from his ACL and performed well according to stats. https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/T/Tylar_Young.html#20250
Will Ashcroft did his ACL in his first season. Also with McQualter having formally coached Young he knows him.

And West Coast being so bad for 5 years I think the trade is worth the risk for sure.

Fair enough. Also I just saw he had a good game v Eagles.

Funny how often it happens that a player has their best ever game and the team it is against recruit them the following season.

 

[HumanMeatball]

Eagles fans continue to be obsessed about winning every deal

 

[nameless]

Eagles fans continue to be obsessed about winning every deal

To be fair we haven't had many wins of any kind recently

 

[amazingjoshy]

Carlton had picks 41 and 54 available for Chesser by your logic West Coast would have accepted pick 54 for Chesser, but we didn't, we got 41...so no if roles were reversed we wouldn't have just accepted pick 53.

The blight we're in now isn't caused by Clarke who came in a year or so ago, it's the prior administration who chased another flag, failed, didn't capitalise on moving on players and then got stung by those players falling off a cliff suddenly and several years of failed drafts / trades. Some self-inflicted, some just bad luck.

I believe the last 2 years have been our best drafts for near on a decade and can see the team that is being built is one that will challenge in years to come.
Whether we got there using picks 38 or 41 or 22 or 23 will be irrelevant.

This

Clarke and co should be given a few years to be judged. The mess is firmly the fault of the previous coach/list boss/admin

 

[leighmo]

Weagles fans way off the mark yet again. What a shock.

38 is fine all round.

Let’s not pretend half the posters in the thread for Young on the Tiger’s own board were expecting him to go for peanuts. I was expecting him to go for 41, so I’m not wetting the bed about him going for 38 like some other WC posters.

 

[My_Username]

WC had 34, 38, 41, 53. Does anyone seriously believe if roles were reversed we wouldn't have just accepted pick 53?

and WCE fans would be in here sooking about how they'd overpaid by not paying with pick 88 (or whatever).

 

[txbyhull]

Eagles fans continue to be obsessed about winning literally any deal ever just once

Fixed it for you

 

[Scotland]

Carlton had picks 41 and 54 available for Chesser by your logic West Coast would have accepted pick 54 for Chesser, but we didn't, we got 41...so no if roles were reversed we wouldn't have just accepted pick 53.

Chesser is a 22 year old former first round pick that just started to come good, not a 27 year old that has played 35 games.

The blight we're in now isn't caused by Clarke who came in a year or so ago, it's the prior administration who chased another flag, failed, didn't capitalise on moving on players and then got stung by those players falling off a cliff suddenly and several years of failed drafts / trades. Some self-inflicted, some just bad luck.

I believe the last 2 years have been our best drafts for near on a decade and can see the team that is being built is one that will challenge in years to come.
Whether we got there using picks 38 or 41 or 22 or 23 will be irrelevant.

Nah. People need to let go of blaming decisions from 5+ years ago. Way too many excuses being made. No one talks about the Crazy Clarko era at Hawthorn because they moved on and are competitive again. They were at the top for years and had no first round picks in 2016, 2017 or 2018, then had 13 in 2019, 6 in 2020 (bust), 7 in 2021, 7 in 2022 and 5 in 2023. They've won 32 games in 2 years, we've won 11 in 4.

This year we've traded for Starcevich and Young, and traded out Ryan and Chesser. And obviously Allen left as a free agent which is a separate mechanism. Is pick 38 for Young noteworthy? Not really. But WB desperately need a key defender and have picks 33 and 37. I don't see them trying to trump our offer.

 

[nameless]

Chesser is a 22 year old former first round pick that just started to come good, not a 27 year old that has played 35 games.

Player in question is irrelevant to the point you were making that West Coast would fold and accept a later pick if available.
The Chesser trade proves that we don't fold and take the later pick.

And Clark came to West Coast in 2024, how much change could he have in such a short time?
Blaming him for 2025 results is illogical.

 

[My_Username]

This year we've traded for Starcevich and Young, and traded out Ryan and Chesser. And obviously Allen left as a free agent which is a separate mechanism. Is pick 38 for Young noteworthy? Not really. But WB desperately need a key defender and have picks 33 and 37. I don't see them trying to trump our offer.

WB were interested, but let it drop when he chose WCE as the club he wanted to go to.

Why he chose WCE could be any number of reasons, but had he chosen WB, who is to say it wouldn't have been pick 37 (or 33)?

 

[Grrr]

To be fair we haven't had many wins of any kind recently

I would think getting a key position backman, who has a solid all round game, will slip into your best 22 immediately, and is something WC are in dire need of, for pick 38, which could otherwise be a pick that might take years to come on especially it you draft a tall, if athey come on at all, is a win.

People are obsessed with draft numbers, what you might get. Pick 38 is a fair trade.

 

[nameless]

I would think getting a key position backman, who has a solid all round game, will slip into your best 22 immediately, and is something WC are in dire need of, for pick 38, which could otherwise be a pick that might take years to come on especially it you draft a tall, if athey come on at all, is a win.

People are obsessed with draft numbers, what you might get. Pick 38 is a fair trade.

Totally agree, I'm very happy to have a position of great need filled with a pick we likely wouldn't have even used in the open draft. Free hit.

 

[Wrenny]

How far do we are 38 coming in? Early 30s potentially?

 

[Forward Press]

Weagles fans way off the mark yet again. What a shock.

38 is fine all round.

Like every other club fanbase, there are a few terminally online BigFooty posters that think everyone should come to their club for peanuts because they're not that good, everyone should leave for a king's ransom because they are underrated guns, and that if Matt Rowell nominated their club a second round pick is a fair swap. They post incessantly in draft and trade threads because they think they know more than everyone else.

I and the majority of Eagles fines are fine with pick 38. Who cares if it's not pick 41?

 

[juice568]

Carlton had picks 41 and 54 available for Chesser by your logic West Coast would have accepted pick 54 for Chesser, but we didn't, we got 41...so no if roles were reversed we wouldn't have just accepted pick 53.

The blight we're in now isn't caused by Clarke who came in a year or so ago, it's the prior administration who chased another flag, failed, didn't capitalise on moving on players and then got stung by those players falling off a cliff suddenly and several years of failed drafts / trades. Some self-inflicted, some just bad luck.

I believe the last 2 years have been our best drafts for near on a decade and can see the team that is being built is one that will challenge in years to come.
Whether we got there using picks 38 or 41 or 22 or 23 will be irrelevant.

This is the biggest myth going around. We are in this problem because of the drafting and development between 2015-22. Not because we didnt dump shuey natanui mcgovern ect

 

[Neale4brownlow]

I would think getting a key position backman, who has a solid all round game, will slip into your best 22 immediately, and is something WC are in dire need of, for pick 38, which could otherwise be a pick that might take years to come on especially it you draft a tall, if athey come on at all, is a win.

People are obsessed with draft numbers, what you might get. Pick 38 is a fair trade.

Agree.

Always the way though that people get a little too caught up in picks being gemstones this time of the year.

As soon as the season proper starts and the player is out there performing the mindset changes. Young will probably get labelled as a bargain buy for 2026 at some point.

Pick 38 for a key defender who slots into our 22 at round 1 2026 is a good get.

 

[billings2paddy]

Weagles fans way off the mark yet again. What a shock.

38 is fine all round.

Eagles fans off the mark
What a shock!
Lol

 

[juss]

Happy with that result.

He'll be very handy for the Eagles, reliable and despite his age he's still improving.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

How far do we are 38 coming in? Early 30s potentially?

May not move much. Academies push it back. Trash picks absorbed (some of which will be after 38).

35-38 range?

I'd guess 35.

 

[Spook]

To West Coast fans worried about winning or losing trades, you’re in a rebuilding phase and need to stay focussed on just that. When Hawthorn bit the bullet we traded a 28 year old Brownlow medalist for pick 41, 50 and steak knives Connor Stephen’s (0 games). Stay focused on the big picture and don’t sweat the small stuff such as 38 or 42 or 53.
The games played differences between 38 and 53 isnt much, all around 50 games. Get the player type you need and move on.
Ref https://www.draftguru.com.au/picks

 

[TwoStriders]

How far do we are 38 coming in? Early 30s potentially?

Good question... will depend on how the Gold Coast/Melbourne situation resolves (and other factors).

If 7/8 are traded for Trac/24/28 - then you'll probably) see current picks 15, 18, 24, 28, 29 and 36 wiped away by bids for Patterson and Uwland. Then it's probable Brisbane will need to use 17 and 23 to match a bid on Annable.

So that would move pick 38 five spots up the order to 33.

At this point it's really hard to say what will happen with Dean. Still have the Curnow situation unfolding and Carlton have a range of options with pick 10 already. At this point they could pretty happily eat a bid at 7 or 8 with 10 and then maybe slide down a small amount at pick 22. Which wouldn't affect pick 38.

Then who knows with players like King, Sweid, Ison, Addinsale etc. They likely go somewhere in the 20s and early 30s, but are probably matched with later picks in a way that won't benefit pick 38.

 

[Spook]

May not move much. Academies push it back. Trash picks absorbed (some of which will be after 38).

35-38 range?

I'd guess 35.

The new points model kicks in this year so the late picks are worth less so mids pick points will be used sooner than pervious drafts.

 

[Spook]

Good question... will depend on how the Gold Coast/Melbourne situation resolves (and other factors).

If 7/8 are traded for Trac/24/28 - then you'll probably) see current picks 15, 18, 24, 28, 29 and 36 wiped away by bids for Patterson and Uwland. Then it's probable Brisbane will need to use 17 and 23 to match a bid on Annable.

So that would move pick 38 five spots up the order to 33.

At this point it's really hard to say what will happen with Dean. Still have the Curnow situation unfolding and Carlton have a range of options with pick 10 already. At this point they could pretty happily eat a bid at 7 or 8 with 10 and then maybe slide down a small amount at pick 22. Which wouldn't affect pick 38.

Then who knows with players like King, Sweid, Ison, Addinsale etc. They likely go somewhere in the 20s and early 30s, but are probably matched with later picks in a way that won't benefit pick 38.

I hope clubs bid earlier and more often for FS and academy draftees this draft. If they don’t bid then they shouldn’t whinge about the FS and academy picks.