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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    I doubt they'd have legal grounds to sack Fagan, and if it gets to that stage it would be fairly obvious that he's not who everyone thought he was. What I'm saying is that the best outcome for the club would be for Fagan to quietly retire or "take time away from the game" before the end of the...
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    Talk or carefully crafted legal and PR strategy? There seems to be a lot of investment from some fans in finding this one weird trick that will get Fagan off the hook. Unless this is all a work of fiction (I'm certain that it isn't), the degree of Fagan's involvement shouldn't matter in...
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    At least read the thread.
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    Anyone trying to make this some weird Lions supporter victim complex thing is so far off base it's mind boggling.
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    This explains it a lot better than I can. Less talk, more listening Sausages.
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    That's the other thing. I don't think people realise what a precarious situation the club is in as a small fry heavily dependent on government funding for its future viability. It's not Collingwood, and chances are there will be significant internal and external pressure to get this sorted...
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    The key word here is accused, although the emerging consensus here appears to be that they're the real victims.
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    Do you think the afl would've investigated this properly, or binned the report and had a few people sign non-disclosure agreements? You must've been born yesterday.
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    What do the power dynamics in this scenario look like to you? Are Clarkson, Fagan and co in the same situation as these former players?
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    What do you want to happen to those people? I see two possible options here- you're awfully naive, or you want them to be held to account (i.e. subject to a media circus, legal action, threats from racists and deranged fans). If they wish to remain anonymous, that must be respected.
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    Why is this the most important issue here for you? That's the real question.
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    People who keep repeating this line should consider that claiming to have been ambushed by questions and not given enough time to respond is a very standard PR move. There is also the possibility that Fagan was aware of the questions, sought advice, and was told not to respond for PR or legal...
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    I think it's part people who know exactly what they're doing and just want this to do away, and part people who aren't yet willing to reckon with the serious and distressing nature of all this (note that finding this distressing for those of us who are white is neither here nor there). It's...
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    I think this concern has been adequately addressed many times, including by the very reputable journo you're trying to discredit. Is this satire?
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    Play Nice Hawthorn culture and Fagan

    I haven't posted here in ages. I just wanted to say that this place is an absolute cesspool. The tolerance for attempts at whitewashing, smearing, equivocation etc is sickening. While there's not much blatant racism here, there's plenty of subtext and a metric ton of absolute cowardice. Sit...
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