NO TROLLS Elijah Hollands (GC-Carlton): Recent Developments & Mental Health Wellbeing

[GC2015]

How the hell was he out out there

You wonder how no one at the club noticed the erratic nature of his movements/actions. Very concerning.

 

[Chadwiko]

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[Bunk Moreland]

Looks strange. Under the influence of substance perhaps, or withdrawing from it. Could be illicit or prescription. All in all very strange and you wonder how on earth he’s playing a game if he’s in that state.

 

[DZ4]

How the hell can Carlton let him go out there like that? Surely pull him in the warm up or something if you can tell he’s cooked? Probably cost them the game as well

They pulled him for most of the last quarter so obviously they knew something was up by then.

The timeline of events will be interesting. If it comes out that they had even an inkling before that last quarter, not good enough.

 

[Bugz]

If it is as suspected, then he has to be sacked ASAP.

Carlton officials who left him out there, should go before him.

 

[Mr Meow]

The fact that he clearly wasn't right and they continued playing him, is very average.

People will assume he's high, perhaps he's actually unmedicated (as in, he forgot to take prescribed medication).

Or overdid prescribed meds, or mixed them with the wrong things.

There's obviously more scenarios than just the most obvious, but none of them are good and it's sad that he hasn't been looked after by the club more.

 

[DZ4]

Does anyone have videos of him on the ground/bench? Besides the one in the goal square

There was a moment in the first quarter around halfway through when he kind of saddled Houston, then when he was pushed off he did a weird somersault, landed on his feet and sprinted off randomly.

 

[GC2015]

They pulled him for most of the last quarter so obviously they knew something was up by then.

The timeline of events will be interesting. If it comes out that they had even an inkling before that last quarter, not good enough.

Absolutely. Ultimately, Carlton as his employer owed Elijah a duty of care tonight and if they chose to play him knowing he wasn't necessarily in the best state then that's a very bad look and not good enough (like you said). This sort of stuff is very delicate, but I just find it hard to believe NO ONE noticed anything prior to the fourth quarter.

 

[Makeshift Park]

I dunno.

The backstory obviously raises the possibility he might have been coming off a bender.

But I just find it so hard to believe that not a single Carlton person could have noticed something was up in the hours before the game, and done something about it.

Really hope he didn’t just forget to take some meds before the game, and suddenly lost contact with reality halfway though. That’d be devastating.

 

[jackAttack]

Looks to me like he is having a manic episode unfortunately. Poor bloke. I hope he gets the help that he needs, regardless of the cause.

 

[Bostonian]

I dunno.

The backstory obviously raises the possibility he might have been coming off a bender.

But I just find it so hard to believe that not a single Carlton person could have noticed something was up in the hours before the game, and done something about it.

Really hope he didn’t just forget to take some meds before the game, and suddenly lost contact with reality halfway though. That’d be devastating.

Which means it could have unfolded as the game went on.

Especially if there's a mental health component involved.

 

[Spacedog]

They pulled him for most of the last quarter so obviously they knew something was up by then.

The timeline of events will be interesting. If it comes out that they had even an inkling before that last quarter, not good enough.

Do we know what quarter the footage of him running backwards and acting completely bizzare was? There’s no way no coach saw that and the moment they did he should’ve been pulled from the match

 

[420]

The comedown is going to be brutal

 

[footballsack35]

There was a moment in the first quarter around halfway through when he kind of saddled Houston, then when he was pushed off he did a weird somersault, landed on his feet and sprinted off randomly.

This basically confirms he was on a bender than

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Looks to me like he is having a manic episode unfortunately. Poor bloke. I hope he gets the help that he needs, regardless of the cause.

Yeah it looks really concerning. Hope he’s alright, imagine going through something like that when you’re literally in front of 80,000 people.

 

[pjcrows]

The comedown is going to be brutal

He needs genuine support.

 

[footballsack35]

Pretty sad for him and his family but Carlton are surely in some shit here for the way it was handled. I cant fathom how no one in the warm ups said anything especially due to his record

 

[craffles]

Sigh. The pile on in here already claiming he’s on illicit drugs without any proof is disappointing. There’s so many alternative explanations to the erratic behaviour that are much more likely such as prescription medication issues, manic / disassociate episode etc.

Irrespective of what it is, Something isn’t right here and a young man is not well so let’s try to be respectful.

 

[420]

He needs genuine support.

Absolutely, I hope he gets what he needs. So many questions to the Carlton FC - how did the coaches let him out there? Did you see how his team mates turned away from him, didn't engage with him? They must've known

 

[Makeshift Park]

There’s no way no coach saw that and the moment they did he should’ve been pulled from the match

This is where I’m at.

Whether it was a psychotic episode, or it was the result of taking drugs beforehand, in either case you’ve got several medical professionals on the ground, and none of them saw fit to remove him from the ground. Why?

 

[frggr]

If it is as suspected, then he has to be sacked ASAP.

I think given the way its been framed by the club, it's a possibility he was off an important medication rather than being off his face.

 

[Bostonian]

Looks to me like he is having a manic episode unfortunately. Poor bloke. I hope he gets the help that he needs, regardless of the cause.

When I saw him sit down on the bench and they showed his face that's what I first thought.

 

[frggr]

Do we know what quarter the footage of him running backwards and acting completely bizzare was? There’s no way no coach saw that and the moment they did he should’ve been pulled from the match

McKay kicks a goal at the end of the footage, so you should be able to track it down from there

 

[frggr]

This basically confirms he was on a bender than

What? Not it doesn't

 

[Chadwiko]

Sigh. The pile on in here already claiming he’s on illicit drugs without any proof is disappointing. There’s so many alternative explanations to the erratic behaviour that are much more likely such as prescription medication issues, manic / disassociate episode etc.

Whilst I accept that they are possible, unfortunately when you're dealing with a player who has had at least one confirmed incident with illicit substances, and several highly rumoured instances as well, including as recently as last year... I don't think you can really say it is "much more likely".