Coach Welcome to West Coast: Andrew McQualter

[TY24]

If you don't have the mental capacity to be funny and witty then it's better to not embarass yourself by trying.

Instead of personally attacking every poster who is critical of McQualter why don't you make a positive post by telling us your argument for why he is doing a good job?

If we are in the bottom 2 or 3 with a percentage of 50 - 60% this time next year then what are you doing? Re - signing McQualter? How long are you going to re - signing him for? What evidence and logic would you have to justify it and sell it to the supporters that this is still the man to get improvement?

I have nothing against him. And i am not expecting miracles. But at some point things have to move forward. Persistent problems and mistakes need to be rectified. Improvement needs to be visible in the areas you can control. There comes a point in time where if you haven't done it then the only logical conclusion is you can't do it.

Try and find the ability to nail down in your mind and then coherently communicate what it is you disagree with the other person about without spinning out into an incoherent rage.

 

[Bender_]

*Try and find the ability to nail down in your mind and then coherently communicate what it is you disagree with the other person about without spinning out into an incoherent rage.

Edit: Beaten by mere seconds!

 

[EJ_Faithful]

So disappointed with the lack of pressure. How many times do we watch teams just walk it out, that’s on the coach and needs to be addressed.

But perspective Richmond were still more experienced and older then us. Defence for them was very experienced and it showed. Our problem is we are bloody young everywhere.

But if the changers are Champion for Cripps I’ll spew.

We applied plenty of pressure, the problem is we press too high and don't have protective outlets further back and in the corridor.

Mini just doesn't get it. We can dominate the stats all we like but if we aren't finding F50 targets and keep getting monstered going back the other way due to open space and no protection we aren't going to win shit all, ever. No matter how good the side on paper becomes.

 

[TY24]

*Try and find the ability to nail down in your mind and then coherently communicate what it is you disagree with the other person about without spinning out into an incoherent rage.

Edit: Beaten by mere seconds!

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Watching the game live and from an elevated position, it looked like we were deliberately playing 5-10m off the tiges players in defensive transition. Nearly every player.

This was even early on in the game so can’t just be fatigue.

It hard to be in the contest in that situation, for such a young team. Any team with reasonable skills just picks that apart.

These are the type of silly questions that need to be asked of Mini and the leaders/senior players. Sadly potential hurt feelings need to be taken into consideration of. According to Yeo, we are most definitely not in a rut.
It feels like the Mini's attitude have spread to the players.
We were playing against tough opposition, we have a young team, we've lost experienced players to injury, we'll learn from the loss, we're getting better, we'll get better, Duggo is an exceptional leader and doesn't deserve to be dropped, etc, etc. Rinse and repeat. It's all part of the rebuild...

 

[lusheslewis]

I could be wrong but the last two results suggests to me that opposition coaches have worked out how to counter our gameplan (which worked well in the first few rounds). Sydney demonstrated how we could be exploited and now other teams are copying it.

There are obviously other possible explanations: personnel, form, confidence, fatigue, luck etc. but I don't know how else to explain such a large drop off in performance.

 

[BG__]

We’ve had enough list turnover that we can probably have Simmo come back now lol

 

[Smotie2]

We’ve had enough list turnover that we can probably have Simmo come back now lol

Nah he would probably name Shuey, hurn, priddis, sheed and co next week wanting to bring the crew back together and drop Reid and durrsma.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Walkin' the mile. McQualter's walkin' the Green Mile

 

[greatwhiteshark]

First time watching us live yesterday and I was bewildered how we set up and how unaccountable we were.
Was also quite disappointed in how slow we move the ball and how reluctant we are to keep possession.
First at centre ball ups we set up in basically a long verticals huddle. Basically we all squeeze up together. This is just so easy to defend. Add to that we don’t run into the any space then it’s like a senior team defending against an Auskick team. Just so easy.
At the other end like many of the better sides Richmond set up high up on the centre square with just one player one out behind them deep forward. Space everywhere for the high half towards to lead back into, plenty of space to hit deep kicks front and centre. And plenty of space for a deep kicks forward to be a one on one contest . Richmond found space easily because they train and practice modern footy. I am questioning whether we are doing the same???

In regards to ball movement we are very stagnant, many times yesterday we took marks all over the ground, we had Harley, TK, WD types running Past for the quick hands and each and every time they get burnt and it is not fed to them. By not doing the simple feed allows the opposing side to defend so easily and hence we are so stagnant and make it impossible for players ahead to find space.

The other noticeable thing was our reluctance to do the higher percentage thing. On many many occasions yesterday I watched a simple 20m hit up ignored to maintain possession and then choosing to bomb it forward and of course we all know what the result of this is.
It looks almost like we have 23 individual players out there that feel it’s more important for them to have a kick than to do what is right for the team. It looks very selfish to me.

In regards to accountability I find it staggering our players don’t believe their opponents will get the ball if they give them 10-15m of space. All Day a Richmond player would be one on one with an eagle but would push off and sprint to space and of course get the ball delivered to them. Meanwhile the Eagles players are standing hands on hips pointing as if to say how did that happen??
Work ethic and team rules is how it happens. We don’t do it when we have ball in hand.
Fortunately Richmond are still not great at it yet but still they keep playing it and practicing it in games. Really good teams smash up because of our poor work ethic and lack of team drills and non negotiables.

Now as I am not at training I do not know what we work on but watching live we look leaderless and without any plan or system at all.

This bullshit about young players does not fly, footy is not foreign to these guys and they have all been playing drilled footy systems for at least 4 years now.

Serious questions need to be asked about what our game plan is, what our non negotiables are and what we stand for in regards to work ethic.

I was really surprised just how poor we looked yesterday Live.

 

[Dylan82]

I could be wrong but the last two results suggests to me that opposition coaches have worked out how to counter our gameplan (which worked well in the first few rounds). Sydney demonstrated how we could be exploited and now other teams are copying it.

There are obviously other possible explanations: personnel, form, confidence, fatigue, luck etc. but I don't know how else to explain such a large drop off in performance.

To be honest, there isn't much to it.

Occupy the corridor, generate run from behind when in possession and get the half forwards high up the ground to open up space in the attacking 50.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

We're as bad under Mini as we were under Simpson.
Maybe it's not the coach, but club culture. The same culture that saw us drop off so immensely after 2018. We all felt it in 2019, the lack of effort, the cavalier attitude to losses believing they could turn it on when needed. The fact that NN, Gaff & Sheppard seemed like they wanted it more than the rest of the list was proof that the players weren't all that hungry anymore.

That attitude seems to be so deeply rooted at the club that despite a significant list turnover having taken place, there's still that "credits crew" mentality pervading the club.

I don't mean players not getting dropped, because clearly that's happened. Cripps, Flynn, Owies, TK, Cole have all had WAFL stints. But there is a general attitude of not needing to work hard. No overlap run when we go forward because everyone behind the ball seems to have an attitude of "job done". The jogging back when we lose possession, because "I won't catch him anyway". The lack of accountability resulting in oppo players time and again being free to run through the middle, to spot up targets going into their F50, the uncontested marks in our forward line. It's all a result of players cruising.

Someone else said this earlier in this thread and I'm starting to agree. We're the next Essendon. The next Carlton. A former power club so convinced that premierships are inevitable that we're failing to see the poor culture now pervading our club.

 

[Monocle]

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[Jeremy McLovin]

If you don't have the mental capacity to be funny and witty then it's better to not embarass yourself by trying.

Instead of personally attacking every poster who is critical of McQualter why don't you make a positive post by telling us your argument for why he is doing a good job?

If we are in the bottom 2 or 3 with a percentage of 50 - 60% this time next year then what are you doing? Re - signing McQualter? How long are you going to re - signing him for? What evidence and logic would you have to justify it and sell it to the supporters that this is still the man to get improvement?

I have nothing against him. And i am not expecting miracles. But at some point things have to move forward. Persistent problems and mistakes need to be rectified. Improvement needs to be visible in the areas you can control. There comes a point in time where if you haven't done it then the only logical conclusion is you can't do it.

I'm plainly not supporting McQualter. But you said he should and will get his full three years, but then said he's likely gone by mid next year. You can't even agree with yourself but then get mad when you think others don't?

 

[Monocle]

To be honest, there isn't much to it.

Occupy the corridor, generate run from behind when in possession and get the half forwards high up the ground to open up space in the attacking 50.

So what you'r saying is they do exactly what we don't.

I would add in they also kick to leading forwards rather then just bombing it long onto their forwards heads.
Plus they instinctively generate multiple, first option run and carry opportunities off their half back flank and have players in those positions with good foot skills, that pass into their leading forward line.

 

[Cuzz09]

I think McQualter should be given til say August next year

If we are still going through the same thing then cya

If theres a clear path/ANYTHING then maybe 1 year extension

 

[Bender_]

I think McQualter should be given til say August next year

If we are still going through the same thing then cya

If theres a clear path/ANYTHING then maybe 1 year extension

So, see out his contract at least?

 

[Cuzz09]

So, see out his contract at least?

yes

 

[Cuzz09]

Clearly we were better when the guys we recruited were all fit.

We have key guys out and the replacements are either too inexperienced, too unco or too lazy

 

[JackOutback]

I wouldn’t be surprised if we snatch a win in the next couple of weeks, all the players get around McQualter and the optimism in this thread returns.

That said, watching live yesterday, the game plan was confusing me. Didn’t seem to be the speed and aggression we showed when we won. I certainly hope there’s a plan and when it clicks, we all slap our foreheads and go ‘oh, that’s what it is’.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

We have been rubbish for a long time. Hard to tell after so many losses if it's ever going to turn. Mini's honeymoon period is starting to run out.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

We have been rubbish for a long time. Hard to tell after so many losses if it's ever going to turn. Mini's honeymoon period is starting to run out.

Are you saying we're in a rut?

How ****ing dare you

 

[bzparkes]

Are you saying we're in a rut?

How ****ing dare you

Yeah, such a loaded question.

The sheer audacity...

 

[WAFoozy]

I think the equation is

If Pyke goes Mini goes
If Pyke stays Mini stays

Not too much more to it than that

Unfortunately, Pyke will stay as they want him to help lure Warner, but really why on earth would Warner come to us. If he did decide to go back home, no doubt Freo will explore that regardless of their midfield depth.

 

[Balls In]

Having slept on that my sober reflection is the game was 100% lost by our coaches and it follows another shocker by them last week.

Yesterday we had a better team to choose from, a pretty much dominant midfield, more clearances, possessions, inside 50's, the player effort was there and we still lost

At selection we bought in three senior players, (Owies, Cole and Shoenberg), for Williams, Brock and Allen. I understand going a bit smaller in the forward line but the other two were massive fails. Dropping Allen on the wing for Cole is Brown to the forward pocket territory. In what planet does that make sense? Then to drop a key defender against Richmond? FFS the ONLY thing they had on us was key forwards and of course they ****ing killed us.

Lots of comments here about about skill errors and inexplicable decision making by our players and I'm not defending all of it.. but the players were constantly getting the footy and seeing absolute dysfunction up the ground. Just a total team system failure over and over and over. Basically looked like 22 individuals running around making it up as they went.

I've kind of not bothered critiquing McQ much as I've been in the "anyone must be better than Simmo" camp - but the last two games have been shocking coaching fails. Probably into seen enough territory for mine. I just hope we learnt our lesson from the Simpson debacle and don't let this crap drift on and on.