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Senior Coach Selection Panel & Selection Process …

Blues round out selection process

The Carlton Football Club has further outlined the approach it will take to appoint its next AFL Senior Coach.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Chief Executive Officer Graham Wright and General Manager of Football Chris Davies will lead the process, alongside Blues President Rob Priestley serving as a conduit with the Board. Former Premiership coach Adam Simpson will round out the group, providing valuable external perspective into the contemporary demands of the senior coaching role.

The group will undertake a thorough assessment of all potential coaching candidates, and in consultation with Football Director Greg Williams, will identify a preferred candidate to take to the Board for approval.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

2012: Won.
2014: Poor result, but faced possibly the best GF performance in history from their opposition.
2016: Hard fought close loss with questionable umpiring.
2022: Young team like lambs to the slaughter against the Cats.
2024: No excuses. Can only imagine that mental scars rendered them totally lame.

Yeah - still find Carlton supporters nit picking about 5 GF appearances from a potential coach tough to get my head around.

 

[Accidental genius]

Swans have an inbuilt advantages for sure but to keep up a level of consistency over 350 games of coaching is still compelling.

As others have mentioned the way it ended for Horse was probably the concern for me more so than his record. He really did flame out after the GF belting - that clearly overwhelmed him. Sounds like he completely melted down in the box. Then there were rumours of a fallout with Parker.

But even on his departure he left the club in really good shape. The playing list is great and he had nurtured Cox who was ready to take over.

All that points to a really well run organization - and the coach is the most important part of that. And he's done coaching development work since so he's obviously keen to coach again.

Will be interesting to see how it all plays out. It isn't even confirmed that he's part of the process yet.

Still a very good coach no doubt.

Key question is whether he’s a good fit for us or are we better off with someone younger first timer with perhaps more energy/enthusiasm?

I was thinking hed be a good get for us but I’ve changed my mind.

 

[Accidental genius]

Yeah - still find Carlton supporters nit picking about 5 GF appearances from a potential coach tough to get my head around.

It's like watching Clive Palmer turn down Sydney Sweeney because he doesn't like her nail polish.

MMalthouse wouldnt be longmires elbow but he had 3 flags when we got him

I was really really against it and most people I’d spoken to were saying similar what you are about Longmire.

Everyone was saying ‘He’ll sort carlton out’

I’m no football genius but I could see the disaster that unfolded.

not saying Longmire is anything like malty but I don’t think success at one club necessarily means success at a different club.

 

[Gointocarlton]

MMalthouse wouldnt be longmires elbow but he had 3 flags when we got him

I was really really against it and most people I’d spoken to were saying similar what you are about Longmire.

Everyone was saying ‘He’ll sort carlton out’

I’m no football genius but I could see the disaster that unfolded.

not saying Longmire is anything like malty but I don’t think success at one club necessarily means success at a different club.

Respectfully, 50% of the board want to retain Ratten and 50% wanted MM, Sticks cast the deciding vote IIRC.
So the minute MM was hired, 50% if the board had it in for him. He wasn't going to change anything and his days were numbered from the day he started.

 

[Accidental genius]

Respectfully, 50% of the board want to retain Ratten and 50% wanted MM, Sticks cast the deciding vote IIRC.
So the minute MM was hired, 50% if the board had it in for him. He wasn't going to change anything and his days were numbered from the day he started.

Well when you bullshit your way into the job (list is great etc)….and happy to jump straight into a sacked coaches job serves him right…

After he gets the job decides list is no good….undervalues one of tge greatest small forwards and brings in his love child daisy …

He was a pathetic.

 

[Bearded Carpenter]

So I’ve been a little more in tune with watching clips or reading about Longmire doing media recently.

Has he been doing regular media spots or has he started to show up now coaching spots are available?

 

[muzza99]

Yeah - still find Carlton supporters nit picking about 5 GF appearances from a potential coach tough to get my head around.

Hehe yeah we’ve been soooo much better

 

[CJMB]

So I’ve been a little more in tune with watching clips or reading about Longmire doing media recently.

Has he been doing regular media spots or has he started to show up now coaching spots are available?

Pretty sure he’s been doing 360 since he packed it up at Sydney

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

What line do all of these assistants coach at their club?

I know Rahilly is the forward line coach at the Cats, at least this year. Is Kelly the midfield coach?

Do we read anything into the Cats midfield being exposed in the last couple of weeks? Do you worry about the Lions struggling in a 3 peat year, and thus query Bruce?

Do we give Jaymie Graham

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extra credit for being forwards coach and senior assistant at the Dockers who are flying this year?

How do we know who has been innovative and who hasn't?

 

[GT619]

What line do all of these assistants coach at their club?

I know Rahilly is the forward line coach at the Cats, at least this year. Is Kelly the midfield coach?

Do we read anything into the Cats midfield being exposed in the last couple of weeks? Do you worry about the Lions struggling in a 3 peat year, and thus query Bruce?

Do we give Jaymie Graham extra credit for being forwards coach and senior assistant at the Dockers who are flying this year?

How do we know who has been innovative and who hasn't?

Kelly is the tactical coach and strategy's. Sets up the game

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Kelly is the tactical coach and strategy's. Sets up the game

Is that what Geelong or Scott have said, or is that media speculation? The Cats don't have much info on their website. They don't even have a senior assistant.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

Respectfully, 50% of the board want to retain Ratten and 50% wanted MM, Sticks cast the deciding vote IIRC.
So the minute MM was hired, 50% if the board had it in for him. He wasn't going to change anything and his days were numbered from the day he started.

MM arrived at the club to get himself the record. His ego was out of control and never gave a single F about Carlton.

Mick was there for Mick.

For sure, our board has always had a massive say in why we have been so crap.

But Mick deserves no benefit of the doubt. He was toxic from start to finish.

 

[Crippa#9]

Yeah - still find Carlton supporters nit picking about 5 GF appearances from a potential coach tough to get my head around.

Spot on post!
12 Finals appearances from 14 seasons including FIVE Grand Finals…what any sane Carlton supporter would give for that record over the next 14 years!

In my opinion, Horse is a top 3 coach in the country, still relatively young and just happens to be available…

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Is that what Geelong or Scott have said, or is that media speculation? The Cats don't have much info on their website. They don't even have a senior assistant.

Don't forget Buckley is there too.
Not to mention Lappin... and King until this year.
I think the main certainty is they'll all take credit for success and go quite about failures. (Not specific to Geelong either.)

 

[tarczonandjane]

Everybody seems to be looking at outcomes. Coach x was successful because he took a side to a high winning percentage. Coach y will be successful because he comes from a winning culture.

But my guess is that most of the guys we have been linked with can coach. For me it is more about process. Which coach is best suited to developing a process which will eventuate in the outcome of more wins?

I would love it if a poster with far more insight than me could provide me with an overview of what they think we need in a coach. Do we need a relationship builder? Do we need a strategic tactician? I am confident many will say we do need a strategist. But if Voss wasn’t allowing the strategy guys to strategise then is that the skill set we actually need? Do we need a culture guy?

I am sure it is a little bit of all of the above. But which do we need most?

Because to me, it is probable that all of Longmire, Kelly, Rahilly, Grigg, Graham, etc can coach. But that doesn’t mean they are the best fit for us.

 

[Juddrockz]

The pressure from all circles will be immense for the Blues to succeed.
Whoever gets the job will need balls of steel with expectations so high.


GW needs to get this decision right.

 

[Accidental genius]

The pressure from all circles will be immense for the Blues to succeed.
Whoever gets the job will need balls of steel with expectations so high.


GW needs to get this decision right.

I think if we go through a good process then we back that coach in for the long term and give them all the support they need to succeed.

This is the point where we need to get over the coach sackings.

Last few sacking were well warranted due to improper processes that lead to sub-standard coaches in addition to having a dysfunctional/poorly run footy department.

But things have now improved and there appears to be more stability so whoever ends up being the next HC needs to be supported for the long term.

At least that is what I'm hoping for.

 

[Prem17]

It all depends on which way they decide to go, either for an untried coach as they've said, or an experienced one.
If they hold true to their word, then I hope that it is Skipworth, or possibly Corey Enright.
Hickmott would also be a great choice but he would also be on the end of "boys club" accusations from the media if he was chosen. If he didn't go so well it would be a media feeding frenzy at his expense.

If they go against what they have publicly stated, which I doubt, then the only choice that I would be happy with is Longmire.
I think that he would fast track things and get the most out of players that are considered to be at or past their peak.

That said, I still think it will be either Skipworth or Enright.

 

[agro]

It all depends on which way they decide to go, either for an untried coach as they've said, or an experienced one.
If they hold true to their word, then I hope that it is Corey Enright.
Hickmott would also be a great choice but he would also be on the end of "boys club" accusations from the media if he was chosen. If he didn't go so well it would be a media feeding frenzy at his expense.

If they go against what they have publicly stated, which I doubt, then the only choice that I would be happy with is Longmire.
I think that he would fast track things and get the most out of players that are considered to be at or past their peak.

That said, I still think it will be Enright.

Edited for accuracy.

 

[Prem17]

Edited for accuracy.

Poor form, Agro! LOL
I wouldn't be disappointed with that decision though. He was a great player and said to be very astute as an assistant.

 

[agro]

Poor form, Agro! LOL
I wouldn't be disappointed with that decision though. He was a great player and said to be very astute as an assistant.

Believe me you won’t be disappointed with that decision

 

[TheReal99prelim]

Edited for accuracy.

I don't dispute your intel, nor do I dispute your integrity with regard to your public opinions about Skipworth on this forum (based on the intel)

My only observation from all this is that you refuse to share the intel (which is your prerogative) and nobody else AFAIK has spoken in a pejorative way about Skipworth.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

It all depends on which way they decide to go, either for an untried coach as they've said, or an experienced one.
If they hold true to their word, then I hope that it is Skipworth, or possibly Corey Enright.
Hickmott would also be a great choice but he would also be on the end of "boys club" accusations from the media if he was chosen. If he didn't go so well it would be a media feeding frenzy at his expense.

If they go against what they have publicly stated, which I doubt, then the only choice that I would be happy with is Longmire.
I think that he would fast track things and get the most out of players that are considered to be at or past their peak.

That said, I still think it will be either Skipworth or Enright.

When and where has the club stated that we are going with an untried coach?

They stated in the press release about the coaching panel that they want the best coach for our club.

 

[Prem17]

When and where has the club stated that we are going with an untried coach?

They stated in the press release about the coaching panel that they want the best coach for our club.

It has been mentioned. I can't remember where it was quoted, possibly the age, as I have a subscription there.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

It has been mentioned. I can't remember where it was quoted, possibly the age, as I have a subscription there.

That’s the media speculation, the club has never stated that.