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  1. HaroLad

    The Boys Club & Sweet FA Farewell A Great One - RIP miggs

    Would a nice smoothie cool you down?
  2. HaroLad

    The Boys Club & Sweet FA Farewell A Great One - RIP miggs

    I can probably just search the chat archives BRAB gave me myself
  3. HaroLad

    The Boys Club & Sweet FA Farewell A Great One - RIP miggs

    This just sucks. One of the all-time great s**t-stirrers taken from us far too soon. Forever a Bomber. RIP.
  4. HaroLad

    Game Day Rd 1 Geelong V StKilda Sat 16th Mar 2024 730pm @ GMHBA

    Where are we parking?
  5. HaroLad

    SCANDAL The Sweet 500 Club - LIFERS!

    Then I must be 98 away...
  6. HaroLad

    Official Match Thread Season 36 Round 12 - Baghdad Bombers v Gold City Royals @ Abdu Prison

    mi hear yuh chattin' 'bout mi era of greatness nuh hard to replicate
  7. HaroLad

    Media Select a team from all the players you have played with

    B: HaroLad / HaroLad / HaroLad HB: HaroLad / HaroLad / HaroLad C: HaroLad / HaroLad / HaroLad HF: HaroLad / HaroLad / HaroLad F: HaroLad / HaroLad / HaroLad Foll: HaroLad / HaroLad / HaroLad INT: HaroLad / HaroLad
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    Rumour Treloar considering a move to the Suns (again)

    How is his marriage intact if she is living interstate
  9. HaroLad

    Toast Collingwood - the fastest rebuild ever

    Average team at best. They won one final in 22.
  10. HaroLad

    Official Match Thread Season 36 Round 9 - Baghdad Bomber vs Coney Island Warriors @Abdu Prison

    Do I still play? If we’re losing and I’m not, there’s an easy fix…
  11. HaroLad

    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    Because he didn't like Jews but he liked animals
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    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    Hitler was an animal rights activist. Do all animal rights activists want to be associated with that?
  13. HaroLad

    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    I'm talking about ATSI people being the first inhabitants of Australia. Nothing to do with that. I'm talking about British colonisation - when they claimed Australia as property of the Crown.
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    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    Yes, but I fail to see what that has to do with land.
  15. HaroLad

    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    Oh, if they were here first, absolutely that should be recognised! And of course, they are very welcome to give input into policies and the law through their right to form political parties and vote for members of the House of Representative and the Senate. Oh, and they are very welcome to form...
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    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    Well, it might be tradition, but it's not really seen as acceptable any more... Harm done in the past - how far back do we go? Should the Turks pay reparations for the their continued occupation of 'stolen' land? Should the Normans? Should the Romans? I'm not saying that there aren't wrongs to...
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    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    But - isn't all land stolen land? Lands have been lost, won, amalgamated, and fragmented in a ceaseless dance that has been choreographed by the ambitions of empires, tribes, and nations since the dawn of man! Is conquest not, historically, the most common means by which ownership of land has...
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    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    Of course I wouldn't just roll over and accept it. And 250 years later I would suspect that the descendants of the New-Russian colonisers would be making arguments similar to the ones I am making, and my descendants would be making similar arguments many ATSI people are making today.
  19. HaroLad

    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    No, I don't actually, but the presumption seems to be that they do. I think it's harmful for people in a multi-ethnic democracy to view individual legislators as owing political allegiances based on the concept of race - it creates a Balkinised political atmosphere. But OP implied ATSI people...
  20. HaroLad

    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    It might - but to accept that belief would be to contradict fundamental tenants of liberalism
  21. HaroLad

    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    I didn't realise they haven't been able to vote for the last sixty years? What are the 11 ATSI federal Parliamentarians up to? Where has all the hundreds of millions (probably more like billions) of dollars spent on ATSI lobby groups, organisations etc. gone? What does the Native Title Act do...
  22. HaroLad

    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    From a civic/legal perspective I am a citizen - a shareholder - of the Commonwealth. I pay taxes, I vote to decide who runs it. If all other shareholders were to perish, I would find myself in sole command of the legislature and executive - it would be my country alone (ignoring entitlements of...
  23. HaroLad

    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    No? When did I ever implicitly or explicitly argue that it does? The message these ceremonies convey implicitly is that an ethnic group has a right to morally gatekeep the activities that occur within certain parts of the country. Enabling these groups to ‘welcome’ people also, by implication...
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    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    I’m asking you to explain how you think. It being ‘my’ country doesn’t equate to me having proprietary interests in the land - you know that I’m not saying that. It means I have a moral right - within the confides of ‘Australia’ - to live, to participate in public/civic life etc. It’s where...
  25. HaroLad

    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    Do Aboriginal people own it? If so, why do they and not me? What about people of mixed ancestry?
  26. HaroLad

    Play Nice Referendum - Indigenous Voice in Parliament - Part 2

    Educate me, please. What is ‘racist’ about being treated like someone who doesn’t belong (or doesn’t have a moral right to be) in their own country?
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