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Several pages of melodrama because someone holds reservations over a poster's source, taking a step back once in a while is a good idea.

It's 'hate' not to treat every word as gospel, really? I've seen the rumours, I just have a different take on them.

Fair point, nothing categorically since though. MS3 also said Boyd was going nowhere for 5 years. Everyone has a different take on things.

Either? I'd love to jump on the MS3 bandwagon, but it'd be nice to see one rumour that has actually eventuated first.

To be honest I've been surprised at how quick the (BF) supporter base have given up on Garlett. Talk of effectively giving him away/using him as steak knives is crazy. Not to be disrespectful but if Ellard can manage to remain on the list for 6 years, Jefferey has more than earned himself...

Out of curiosity is this due to just a general ebb and flow, playing other forms, or your interest and/or time is not as invested as it once was.

Based on potential, I think the above is not unrealistic in which case we already meet your criteria without further additions. Discounting Giles, the D grade to me are shot (with Walker being close also). This is the area you cut to create space to attempt to shore up other grades. Judd brings...

We have some talented seniors and while it's hugely disappointing they are going to leave without a flag, we've just got to plan for our next shot. That has to include our cohort of top picks in Murphy, Gibbs & Thomas and 2018 is probably the last chance we can hope for them all being...

IN: Garlett, Watson OUT: Menzel, Docherty Watson to play on Cloke. Sounds about right.

Signed to 2016, Carrazzo signed for next year, been favourites but both shouldn't be signed beyond this year when Gibbs, Yarran and Menzel are yet to. Worrying that we are not showing signs of improvement in our list management in that regard.

Recall watching him run down the wing and slotting it from 50 in a practice match in Perth in 2010. He will be judged a bad pick but he definitely had something when he came to us.

All that pressure, physicality and effort was not enough to beat a stagnant top 4 team. That's not a criticism, but they actually need to find another gear and be able to back that up week after week. Losses should always be hard fought. If that loss breaks any player, they need to go.

On this, am I mistaken for thinking that we did not receive a response regarding the Yarran incident? It seemed as though Mick alluded to this in his presser.

Reading through this thread you can't help but question it. Posters thinking it's a low act with a baby on the way on one hand, and then reveling that we don't have to pay him out on the other. He isn't scum, he is 21 years old and really shouldn't have his life mistakes broadcast across the...

I don't doubt that, it's this lack of transparency that puts supporters offside. As ODN said there's no advantage to be had by keeping this in house.

Why would we cover that up.

Slight overreaction to this post, 4 pies supporters in discussion with each other was somewhat odd.

Have we had any indication of where Ellard is at in his recovery?

I'm offended. He said it wouldn't happen again o.O

I also like the decision to sign up to a footy forum in the same year you've chosen not to follow it.

You were so disgusted that you gave up a membership of 41 years (because this is the first time we have players that don't care obviously), yet you care enough to protect the players reputation. Please, you came here with bs looking for a reaction.

And you really thought now was the time to question that?

No the team rightly received it's share of criticism after rounds 3-4, you don't earn praise or a pass for taking the week off. Same applies for this week, even Mick alluded to it so it's not supporters being fickle. Running hard, showing intent and desire, these are non-negotiable and you don't...

How have Essendon gone for broke looking for talls when you've just listed 5 1st rounders in that midfield. There's a balance.

I've seen plenty of WWE to know that any grappling can be broken.

No duel? :(

I don't disagree, but players need to have awareness on how umps adjudicate. Not making an attempt has been in place for some time now; everyone watching Lucas knew it was going to be called ball but Lucas apparently. New method to settle debates on BF? I'd prefer a good old fashioned duel...

The truth is this is fast becoming an old adage. I can't identify many in that team that hasn't come under scrutiny - Garlett, McLean, Warnock, Robinson, Gibbs, Murph all certainly have, most have been dropped at some point (including Waite, Scotland etc.). Simpson, Jamison, Walker are probably...

Fair effort into that post, but you're wrong. Lucas just lays still like a stunned mullet. The tackler isn't so strong that Lucas isn't able to move an inch, he just needs to be trying to yank his hand free or doing something and it's ball up. That's holding the ball ever day of the week.

No that's ok, I'm just not very funny.