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given the time frame this involves, theres a hell of a lot of supporters who werent even alive when these events allegedly occurred.

the guy had an affair and was sacked for appearances sake. he didnt commit sexual assault or anything.

Carlton were never dumped by the MCG - in fact they are increasing the number of games they play at the MCG from 6-7.Carlton have been an Etihad tenant since 2002.

still bloody funny

to the bay!

jeez i lost it when fitzy and demetriou appeared

yeah nah.

A prophet is never loved in his own country

that first page and half is such prime discussion material. regardless of whose club it was.

if you read the first page and a half you know there was no way it was going to survive the main board long and you keep asking for it to be opened. so this was the deal

bay worthy threqad. take your angst there. closed.

all crowd information i use is from stats.rleague.com and easily verified.

Hmm essentially gifted the remnants of waverly, would have folded if not for kennett and had to shift games to tasmania to get out of financial trouble, have won a single flag since 1991, and damn near merged with Melbourne. Had their own salary cap breaches in 1992, 1996, and 1998, though they...

Most? lol. Not really, maybe newer carlton fans though.

see my post above: Graeme Mcmahon, essendon chairman at the time, on essendons own website doesnt split the years - and he had reason to - he was complaining about melbournes lenient treatment at the time.

You got some sort of documentation for that? On Essendons own website, former chairman Graeme McMahon didnt separate the years: "We breached the cap between 1992 and 1996 - we believe Melbourne breached it between 1992 and 1999. We were fined about $388,000 and they were fined $600,00 but...

No need to leave out Essendon and Melbourne while your at it. Essendon were the only one of the three to get done in a premiership year. (1993) ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salary_cap#Breaches_2

Im in Adelaide and I support this message

lol @ the votes for brayshaw leading the poll

so much win....douchebag

Port deserved it in 1990 if not earlier. If theyd got it in 90 this would all be moot.

You've won nothing since 1999 when carlton and north both qualified for the grand final. Since 2000, Carlton average out to 11th, North average out to 9th. Hardly the sterling tradition of winners. Since we got rid of pagan we've gone 7-7-5, to norths 13-9-9. hmmm and lol @ richmond...

West Coast 1987 Inaugural Team Players in Bold played in the 1986-1988 State of origin teams Lamb, Brennan, Peos Miles (amateurs), Glendenning, Zanotti Narkle, Wrenstead, Davidson Laidley, Keene (86), Holmes Malaxos, Bennett, Macnish Ischenko (Amateurs), Annear, Matera Lewis, Barich (ACT) John...

Oddly enough, 14 players in the WC squad were playing for WA betwween 1986 and 1988. Thats 14 players in both the starting lineups of WA and West Coast.

In this thread: people who are going to be surprised if Kreuzer, in his 3rd game back from a knee reconstruction, dominates an inform and upcoming ruck talent in Naitanui.

My moneys on (in no particular order) Gold Coast West Coast Richmond Essendon Theres going to be a hell of a log jam between 13 and 5th i think. Any of those sides could win on any given day.

simple, clubs spending beyond their means and being forced to spend 92.5% of the salary cap.

At any other time this would be a great day. Not sure how it will go during this lighning rubbish.

SANFL board.

in 50 years: Collingwood last won a premiership in 2010, in which decade do astrologers commonly believe this will occur again? Multiple choice Caroline Wilson was: A) the ugliest woman ever B) One of the ugliest women ever C) An ugly man in drag D) Mark "Jacko" Jackson with a wig