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Four kicks for goal straight in front, 30-40m out - and we've missed them. Really, really poor basic skill.

Jesus - miss 3 sitters - Martin, Rioli and Grimes.

In all the years the VFL/AFL have had drafts (a few dodgy ones in the 1980s, got serious in 1992), there have been 40 players drafted at No 1. 4 have won premierships. Drew Banfield - (handy player, hardly a match winner. Got 8 touches in 1994 GF, 9 touches in 2006 GF) Luke Hodge - star -...

Kmac 6 weeks

Doubled our free kick tally within 6 minutes.

I reckon Vlastuin is boiling up to do one of his stupid things and either give away a couple of goals or get suspended.

Whats the betting we get all the frees this quarter?

Our No 1 forward target is .............. Bolton.

That was terrible by Young.

As soon as Jnr Rioli gets the ball in his hand I cringe - his decision making is terrible and his skills are not much better. Runs fast though.

Anyone spot Yeo doing the classic 'arm lift' when tackled?

They're still not kicking points.........................

I know we have no big forwards, but our cute kicks into the forward line are terrible.

Well if the umps are going to pay that - just play last touched.

That is 8 goals in the last 15 minutes of game time.

Why are our defenders falling over so much?

And Pickett - arguably as good a kick as we have - misses a sitter under no pressure.

Imagine what will happen when we face a team with good tall forwards.

Well, to be fair, so did we.

I agree - he has 'something' and he did some good things today. I'm happy to keep persisting with him.

In hindsight, Naismith would have been a far better option as a target up forward. Koszchitze had no presence. Naismith would have forced St Kilda to drop Marshall back (as we had to with Nank on King).

Tom Brown to be our 'Designated Kicker' from now on - you had a good run Shorty, but you're nowhere near it right now.

I reckon we got a good run with the umps in the 1st qtr, maybe the first half - I thoght we got some soft ones. Evened up in the last though. Sonsie's HTB was a crowd decision - he had absolutely no prior - he was still bent over.

No Lynch, No Balta - no forward line.

They have looked so much faster than us all day.

Ross Lyon's defensive strategy is better than ours. Let's see what Yse has up his sleeve (apart from kick it towards Bolton and hope)

What is wrong with Short's left foot? It was surely never this bad before?

OMFG.

Pickett goes the dummy every time.

St Kilda are just gfetting intl the 50 and hoping for a bit of luck - kick off the ground, scrub kick while being slung. When we go forward we are trying to be too clever and the ground is too small for that and is too crowded.