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I guess this must have been in exchange for you guys not getting the last pre-listed player that was promised to you, or something. Fair enough, I like to think Hawthorn are a fair club when it comes to trade week.

I've no doubt that some people on all sides have suggested insane trades. For instance there is no way Hawthorn would trade Lewis for Tarrant. I'd personally be very surprised if you got pick 18/19. The thing is, Hawthorn and Carlton and others, no one is going to be that bothered if the deal...

I must say, there is an element of humour in having 7 outs, all due to "soreness". From reading this thread, it sounds as though it might be partially a bit of a middle finger at the AFL. In any case, I just hope our boys don't decide that we've been given the 4 points already, but it almost...