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  1. Strahany

    Traded #22: Jake Carlisle - Pt.2 - Traded with some other stuff for pick 5, 24 and a Bird

    For what it's worth (and I cannot guarantee accuracy on behalf of the vocal supporters, as I am not one of them) I believe that they were more disappointed with the punishment of Essendon FC / those that ran this whole escapade, as opposed to the players
  2. Strahany

    Traded #22: Jake Carlisle - Pt.1 - Traded with some other stuff for pick 5, 24 and a Bird (cont in Part 2)

    He would name a one year contract which gets re-negoatiated post-signing. The average of one year at 1.5m is 1.5m. That's how the PSD threat is founded.
  3. Strahany

    Traded #22: Jake Carlisle - Pt.1 - Traded with some other stuff for pick 5, 24 and a Bird (cont in Part 2)

    Yep, you're spot on. As soon as Carlisle says he is committed to the Hawks as well as St Kilda, then the clock is on the Saints. Dodoro would likely turn to St Kilda and say "you have a day to offer us pick 5 (plus potentially more) or he's gone to Hawthorn". Either that, or the trade to the...
  4. Strahany

    Traded #22: Jake Carlisle - Pt.1 - Traded with some other stuff for pick 5, 24 and a Bird (cont in Part 2)

    Of course, the Saints cannot definitely guarantee safe passage via the PSD, but given their available cap space, front-loading, and Carlisle's right to refuse medicals with the only 3 preceding clubs (4, if including Essendon) then it would be considerably likely. Nowhere in my post did i state...
  5. Strahany

    Traded #22: Jake Carlisle - Pt.1 - Traded with some other stuff for pick 5, 24 and a Bird (cont in Part 2)

    Sorry, I should clarify that my lack of mentioning that point was because it was public knowledge established some time ago as fact (assuming he's telling the truth in the media, of course). I mentioned the "interstate fear" as an additional consideration.
  6. Strahany

    Traded #22: Jake Carlisle - Pt.1 - Traded with some other stuff for pick 5, 24 and a Bird (cont in Part 2)

    Yeah, it's speculation based on some information from people on our board who have been spot all year (proven track record and such). Whether it's because Carlisle want's Essendon to receive at least something, or he is fearful of moving interstate, as our board's "inside info" suggests (or...
  7. Strahany

    Traded #22: Jake Carlisle - Pt.1 - Traded with some other stuff for pick 5, 24 and a Bird (cont in Part 2)

    'Fair' is subjective. Dodoro will believe that he is asking for a 'fair' offer, whilst Bains will also believe that he is presenting a 'fair' offer. There is no absolute truth in subjectivity.
  8. Strahany

    Traded #22: Jake Carlisle - Pt.1 - Traded with some other stuff for pick 5, 24 and a Bird (cont in Part 2)

    This thread is moving as lightning fast as ours; I was wondering if you could point out if the information you guys have is similar to (or contradicts) the following: St Kilda don't want to give up pick 5 unless a first round pick is coming back Essendon are asking for pick 5 Carlisle's number...
  9. Strahany

    Retired #26: Cale Hooker - Has announced his retirement at season's end 🍷

    Well, we first heard that Hooker was the sticking point from the BigFooty user, BrianSpeaking, (who has been extremely spot on for a long time, and 100% correct during the trade period just gone), only to hear Watters say it himself the following day (or the day after; can't remember). I'm not...
  10. Strahany

    Retired #26: Cale Hooker - Has announced his retirement at season's end 🍷

    I don't mean to be overly pedantic, but IIRC, it wasn't Essendon that prevented the trade from going ahead; it was Hooker's unwillingness to sit in the West Coast reserves that caused it to fall apart.
  11. Strahany

    Retired #26: Cale Hooker - Has announced his retirement at season's end 🍷

    This could be a little difficult to orchestrate, however it seems pretty fair for all parties. No clear winner or loser that I can see.
  12. Strahany

    Retired #26: Cale Hooker - Has announced his retirement at season's end 🍷

    As you can tell from my avatar, Goddard is (and always will be) a favourite of mine. Losing him certainly stung, and it still does, although us St Kilda supporters expected him to leave for a long while before he did, so we were able to prepare and get used to the idea; that helped a lot...
  13. Strahany

    Retired #26: Cale Hooker - Has announced his retirement at season's end 🍷

    Well, apparently Cripps is not absolutely desperate to leave and wouldn't be unhappy if he stayed, however I think the writing is on the wall and it would be best to move him on now. If West Coast are being completely honest, and categorically will not trade Brown, and Fremantle also do not...
  14. Strahany

    Retired #26: Cale Hooker - Has announced his retirement at season's end 🍷

    Tell me about it. West Coast harp on about how St Kilda would be neglecting their player's welfare by not sorting out a trade for Cripps, and then turn around and deny Brown the ability to return home, despite making it clear that he wishes to leave. :confused: Unfortunately, West Coast no...
  15. Strahany

    Retired #26: Cale Hooker - Has announced his retirement at season's end 🍷

    Alternatively, if Stevens is already gone to the Bulldogs, how about something like this: West Coast- IN: Hooker, Cripps. OUT: Brown Essendon- IN: Pick 26. OUT: Hooker St Kilda- IN: Brown. OUT: Cripps, Pick 26 I can't see West Coast having any issue with that trade. How does that sit from...
  16. Strahany

    Retired #26: Cale Hooker - Has announced his retirement at season's end 🍷

    We're in a tricky situation with midfielders. Until Lenny goes (and Montagna/Dal, to a lesser extent) we don't have the spots to give players experience in the middle. Seb and Ledger are struggling to have spots found for them, and add Curren who won Sandringham's Best and Fairest this year. So...
  17. Strahany

    Retired #26: Cale Hooker - Has announced his retirement at season's end 🍷

    Seems like it duds you guys a bit. Even though you can afford to lose Hooker, Stevens isn't worth the straight swap. With Hooker possibly wanting to go home to WA, and Brown wanting to come to Victoria, I was thinking that Hooker goes to West Coast, whilst Brown comes to St Kilda. In that...
  18. Strahany

    Retired #26: Cale Hooker - Has announced his retirement at season's end 🍷

    If Koby Stevens agreed to go to Essendon, what would need to be packaged with him in order to get one of Pears or Hooker (the cheaper of the two)? That is, if you'd be interested in Stevens (which you allegedly are).
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