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  1. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    In Victoria the peak is predicted to be Feb. My brother and sister who work at different hospitals say all staff have been notified and any leave during Feb is very limited. Personally, I am unavailable for any CRT work for the foreseeable future. A friend has said, "the year...
  2. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    All the best teachers have great organisational skills. It is one of the great things that teachers learn and is a really sought after skill outside the educational field. If you can't learn and improve those skills, you will never make it as a teacher. It's one thing that many teachers don't...
  3. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    This is so true. https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/burnt-out-melbourne-teacher-on-why-shes-quitting-after-14-years/news-story/cf2919aa8919b0c2a8b7d252b5d2ebe4
  4. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    Had a good friend of mine invited to interview for a VP position some years ago. He sat in the waiting room for longer than expected. Went for a nervous trip to the toilet and was called in as he returned to the waiting room. Went through the interview and afterwards on his walk back to his car...
  5. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    I used this a bit and it is a really useful site. Worth having a look at. Lots of tutorials and ideas on computer tech, software and internet stuff.. Click on the link and have a quick look. https://www.youtube.com/c/TeachersTech/videos This is one of their funnier videos.
  6. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    I've just been watching the news which featured complaints from Melb Uni Tutors that they are not being paid for all the hours they work. Teachers have been doing that forever!
  7. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    A father passing by his son's bedroom was astonished to see the bed was nicely made and everything was picked up. Then, he saw an envelope, propped up prominently on the pillow. It was addressed, 'Dad'. With the worst premonition, he opened the envelope and read the letter, with trembling hands...
  8. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    Don't see much difference between "teach students" and "teach children". Anyway that's my teaching philosophy and it's stood up well for my 40+ years as a teacher.
  9. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    But you are a moderator? I guess mostly we agree then. Perhaps I should have put the word just in the sentence. "we don't just teach subjects"
  10. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    That is a strange thing for a moderator to do, selectively isolate part of a statement to make your argument. If you look at the entire statement the meaning behind it is that the most important job of a teacher, is to teach children, you should not make the mistake that feeding your students...
  11. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    The sister of one of my great mates got her degree in French in the early 70's and moved to France to improve her French and pursue a career as a teacher. When she got here the style of French she spoke was common after the war and in the early 50's, she sounded very quaint. But the biggest...
  12. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    I got into teaching from my cricket coaching background. Coaching kids and adults got me to consider teaching. When I first got into teaching I went into the Technical School System. Everyone who taught in a Technical School had to have a diploma/degree and a minimum of 2 years in the workforce...
  13. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    No, just extra information for everyone. Nothing you have researched and presented proves your opinion.
  14. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    You were correct to question my claim of $108K. It's MUCH higher. No University degree, just a sturdy pair of legs, a high boredom threshold and just watching the Traffic Controllers at the rebuilding of a local shopping centre, a mobile phone to while away the day...
  15. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    There are a bit over 2000 students. In addition to the 170 full time teachers, there are other part time teachers. They could have had 4 VP's but chose instead to use that money for other programs and duties.
  16. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    My school had 170 full time teachers There is a principal and 3 VP's, there are 3 year level coordinators and about 8 people with other higher paid duties. Not easy for the majority of teachers to get those positions and all but the Principal class are on 3 to 5 year contracts. Only people who...
  17. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    I can also say that he has worked for his friends in between jobs and on weekends, he knows exactly how much they get. He also gets his super and has only one super account, haven't you heard of portable super accounts. Utes are also tax deductible and so is the cost of running them.
  18. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    I talk to my son, he talks to his friends.
  19. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    My son hasn't had any problems in his 15 years in the industry. Lots of his friends are working for themselves doing domestic work and are making more than he is. Go and get an electrician to do some work at your place and you will find out for yourself.
  20. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    No BS, Check the figures. Work it out for yourself. I am correct and that's without taking into account any allowances. https://www.etuvic.com.au/ETUV/Your_Union/Contracting/Wage_Rates/ETUV/Your_Union/Contracting/Wage_Rates.aspx?hkey=74c05a15-a0db-4a71-a9b6-6828133d0256 And just so you can...
  21. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    Yes, I heard someone on a radio interview describing the job. I researched it after hearing the interview as I couldn't believe it. It's true. I was really pissed off at having a degree and 45 years experience and ending up with the same pay packet. Mind you it would be a mind numbingly boring...
  22. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    When I did teacher training in the early 70's we were shown the percentage of the GDP that was spent on education in the 60's. It was 27%. It had dropped to a bit below 25% when I went through. Teachers wages really went backwards from the 60's. In 2015 the percentage of the GDP spent on...
  23. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    Please don't take this personally, but your replies show just what might happen if an unqualified teacher ends up in charge of a Technology class. Students are not allowed to use a bandsaw at any time and there are only certain electric hand tools that are allowed to be used by students. To use...
  24. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    The critical shortage of qualified Design & Technologies teachers is the biggest issue faced by our Schools. DATTA Vic is advocating on our members' behalf to government and the tertiary sector, but we know more short-term solutions are required. Thanks to the findings of our 2019 Teacher...
  25. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    Do you like making things? If you do then have a look at becoming a Technology Teacher. Pretty intense in the classroom, but no way near as much work at home doing correction etc. as say a Science, Maths or English teacher. The advantage over those subjects is that for most of the year levels...
  26. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    Depends on what subject you will be tutoring and what year level. Lower than VCE anywhere between $30 to $50 an hour. VCE $50 to $100. This all depends on your subject and how many nearby people offer tutoring services. Obviously if there are a lot of competing people, to get work you might have...
  27. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    I was going through all the stuff I assembled over the years now that I will be officially retired in a couple of weeks. I came across this report comment bank. I don't know if you will find it useful, but I would believe you will find it interesting.
  28. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    It's done me in. I hated it. There were some good things such as no travel time. Hearing a parent, when the student hadn't switched off their mic say, "I can see what your teacher was talking about last year, you are really lazy". I'm moving to retired mode. Give me a while and I can tell you...
  29. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    Any competent teacher should be able to teach without supplied lesson plans. I might do a quick outline before teaching a new topic, but it must be at least 40 years since I wrote a complete lesson plan.
  30. CliffMcTainshaw

    Secondary Thinking about becoming a teacher

    My first mentor said to me, "No point worrying about something you can't change, it may never happen. If it does happen then you can worry like buggery. But you should realise that either way it won't help and won't make you feel any better. If it does happen the only thing that will make you...
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