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Imma be honest man, if Indigenous Australians want a voice, im gonna listen to them and keep pushing where i can for it. Just like i listened to my LGBTIQ+ community about gay marriage. Just like i listened to.... Etc, etc.

They can re do things. Gay rights went for marriage equality a few times granted never to a vote but quitting a cause because something didn’t get up (ala the voice) would be pretty ******* depressing.

I think the difficult part with a JP or Anti Vaxx or whatever is that both sides are usually starting both absolutely sure they are right and usually pretty emotive about it. I think JP (on topic) is deeply, deeply harmful and dangerous and i struggle to stay level headed and open minded. I...

I think the hard part is that by and large people defend their position with absolutely no intent to listen to others, especially on the internet. Ive had DMs from people going pretty hard about why they believe whatever, now if theyve taken the time to DM me ill always listen and try but by...

So Jordan Klepper (host on the daily show) was asked about this in a between the segments piece and gave a really thoughtful answer. Effectively he said unless you can concede some point of being unsure youll never reach anyone, but that flows two ways. In my experience the rabid Jordy, Trump...

There’s a lot to be said for the issue of indoctrination from jordys early doors simple advice too. There’s still a few (a lot) that think his primary school level advice of clean your room to start your day was so groundbreaking that they’ve stayed on his bullshit bandwagon ever since and...

I’m confused about which part is a lie?

Have they said she was abducted? I honestly assumed it was some sort of runner/car road rage incident and he’s dumped the body after the fact. It’s absolutely horrific either way I just didn’t know if ANY details of the hiw and why had been released

Mate, I usually appreciate your posting even if I don’t agree with you but you’ve had a mare here and you still look like your down with Nazis.

Wrong again, I asked because you were defending their right to protest. At no point did you ever refute that, then I made it clear I was discussing ideaology and you kept the comparison. To steal a quote, I’m pretty sure most would agree with me.

No, read it again mate. I said “that’s quite a leap to connect that idealogy”. You responded “it’s not a leap”. It couldn’t be any more direct. You might not have intended it but this one’s on you.

Go back and read the posts. I said idealogy and ideals right from the start and you kept connecting them. This is your direct reply to my comment that is specifically about idealogy

I think i made the point (over and over in fact) that that wouldnt work and cant be done but surely the sentiment of "Nazi railles not being a thing" is one we can support. I gotta be honest your continued insistence that Nazis are fine and should be allowed to do their thing is pretty ****ed.

Yeh again mate, actions v idealogy. If you seriously think Nazi idealogy is even remotely like climate change... I dont know what to tell you but im tipping it wont be popular.

Id like it to be easier to just shut Nazi rallies down altogether but youre spot on the law doesnt allow it and the cops wouldnt want it to. Alot easier to use the "well unmask Nazis" line to actually whack climate and invasion day portestors.

To be clear im not defending the way anyone CHOOSES to protest. Yeh gluing yourself to a road in peak hour is s**t stuff but im asking WHAT they are protesting and you know full well what Nazis are protesting so dont be flippant. If there was a way (and im pretty sure there is) to outlaw people...

Jesus... Thats quite the leap in ideology to try and connect.

What are Nazis protesting? Cause surely that’s an issue even if you can seperate the right to protest from the thing being protested.

I’d have to imagine they probably could but my whole point was that if they did a bunch of cookers will claim it’s discrimination.

Who (other than Nazis) is gonna have any issue with them banning a gathering or Nazis?

So to be clear. You’re pro nazi rallies? Surely that can’t be right

I suppose they could just outlaw Nazi rallies then unmask them for engaging in illegal activity. I dont know, seems pretty shitty we have to cater for Nazis to allow people to march on climate change and s**t.

Gotcha, that makes sense. Personally i dont love anyone out and about in a balaclava but your correct, its an individual choice for individual reasons.

I get all that and agree in principle. Im more making the point specifically to the mask thing. I have no issue with a desire to unmask Nazis at a rally, im not sure how you do that but still allow climate or change the date or whatever to be masked. Could probably make some specific wording...

I get it and that is always a balance. The issue is we obviously would all like Skinhead Neo Nazis needing to show their face but can you really do this but then allow other rallies to have people hiding their faces? If theres a reasonable way then im all for it but i cant see how you have one...

I think asking what people think of it is a reasonable question, I certainly didn’t know the law existed. I’m not gonna defend the police and the way they conduct themselves, you know my position on that.

Seems like it would be pretty difficult to practically enforce face masks for some and none for others. Again, my statement was my personal position, others can disagree, I’m certainly not passing my position as THE position.

I suppose its a bit of a person to person thing, the whole "civil liberties" piece. Personally i cant think of a single cause ive marched for that i wouldnt be happy to have my face to (and no i obviously didnt wear a mask) so I have absolutely no issue with it.

This visual descriptor is absolutely spot on.

Honestly probably both. There was a specific discussion about judges and sentencing and I noted I think they’re pretty out of touch with broad societal expectation.