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  1. Demonic Ascent

    Kayo: A balanced and reasoned intellectual discussion

    What a rort, $71 a month for endless reruns of Gawdy Housewives of Rich Men and whatever other garbage they cram in their 700 channels? Kayo isn't much better but at least you can split a sub so end up paying about $100 for the footy season.
  2. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    If WADA tests a player mid week and they have cocaine in their system what is the penalty?
  3. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    If a player is tested mid week and they have cocaine in their system what is the penalty from WADA?
  4. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    WADA's aim is to prevent athletes playing with banned substances in their system. The AFL is ensuring they, the clubs and players are complying with that.
  5. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    You're right, it is pretty silly for them to be subject to testing. However as part of ADFA I can see the logic even if I may disagree with it.
  6. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    Yeah but in reality that's not going to happen is it.
  7. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    Not really, the point was not that government employees are never tested, the point was that not ALL government employees are subject to testing. People working in certain departments such as the ADF, Border Force etc I can understand why they have testing (though I don't know if I agree with...
  8. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    Psychedelics can probably help with that (in a clinical environment).
  9. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    You are correct however the AFL's illicit drugs policy is something they imposed themselves (ie not to comply with WADA or receive govt funding) and which the players voluntarily sign up to. My guess is the reason they even have it in the first place is for this very reason, to avoid players...
  10. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    A soldier with access to firearms and potentially confidential information is the same as someone playing sportsball.
  11. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    But if they don't play they haven't breached the WADA code. So it is not circumventing, it is actually making sure they comply with the code by not playing with that substance in their system.
  12. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    What benefit would there be for clubs to test for non-recreational drugs (ie PED's)? Think about it, WADA can still test players out of competition for PED's - it is only that recreational drugs are deemed a breach of the WADA code if found in the system on game day. So a player doesn't play and...
  13. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    CPSU not on board with mandatory piss testing? I guess it's hard when they are wanting to enshrine permanent WFH, do the piss testers knock on your front door and follow you to your bathroom? Maybe they follow you on holiday overseas like they did to Dane Swan.
  14. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    Lots of things in this thread, but mainly the pearl-clutching hysteria.
  15. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    I've never worked anywhere that has drug testing and frankly I wouldn't want to. Never heard anyone I know be subject to it either, corporate or government (state and federal).
  16. Demonic Ascent

    Coach Lions - Has the Fagan era already peaked?

    How far away is Ashcroft
  17. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    They will be picked up by WADA during their regulation out of competition testing if that's the case. It is not dependent on them playing on a specific weekend or not, PEDs in your system breach WADAs code whether it is in competition (ie on game day) or not. So you don't have to worry about it...
  18. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    Won't somebody think of the gamblers! Why should they be subject to bans for a substance which is not performance enhancing? I don't understand why they are subject to non-PED testing by the AFL anyway. You're right, nothing is stopping them except for the fact they can still be tested by...
  19. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    That's some nice rationalisation there, keep enjoying your bloodstained overpriced sneakers. Wow, so now you're comparing people getting high with people brutally murdering people or sexually assaulting kids. Have a Bex and a lie down mate, you're going round the bend. No, it's not. No, it's...
  20. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    Why should they be tested at all? When was the illicit drugs policy implemented? Could it be the only reason the AFL tests for illicit drugs at all is for this exact purpose, ie to identify players who still have illicit drugs but not PEDs in their system and ensure they don't play on game day...
  21. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    A breakaway league would kill the sport. It's a fantasy.
  22. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    No, no more than if they had a big night on the piss anyway.
  23. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    MFC/Goodwin - 1 Bartlett - 0 That's all that matters.
  24. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    That player can still be subject to WADA testing out of competition and be found guilty of using a banned substance. Pulling them from a match won't stop that, it will only stop them being found guilty of using specific banned substances like coke in competition. It's not a circumvention of the...
  25. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    And if you own an iPad or iPhone or wear Nike etc etc you are participating in a capitalist economy that is built on the blood, sweat and tears of people in other countries. So you'll forgive me if I don't buy your feigned morality.
  26. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    You're right I think fun should be one of the first things to be outlawed, not just in the AFL but in society as a whole. We can't have people having fun, life is serious business!
  27. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program - Harley Balic’s Dad Speaks

    Funny that you would take my response to your post as "preaching", I was just reaffirming your assessment of my view. I'm not suggesting people should take drugs, just that if they do they shouldn't be locked up. Each to their own, if kumbuya on a Sunday morning is how you get your rocks off no...
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