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  1. iameviljez

    Rumour Sam Wick's - Teammates ex

    Who says they were mates? Or that it was an official relationship (as opposed to, say, a hook-up)?
  2. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    Killing off family and Australia values like punching blokes in an all-in brawl! You're probably even worse than Blackrock.
  3. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    Eh, just a bit of connection with that kind of thing actually means to the people at the centre of homophobia won't hurt him.
  4. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    People can change, even if it's just little by little.
  5. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    No self-respecting gay man would be seen dead snatching my shitty bag! :)
  6. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    it's a pretty appropriate response for someone who uses homophobic sledges If someone managed to retain their job in a regular workplace despite being busted saying something homophobic, this is exactly what would happen.
  7. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    This illustrates one of the issues with the AFL actually not being upfront about what was said. I get not wanting to have a copycat effect, but this vacuum does open up a spot for misinformation.
  8. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    Huh? Their modus operandi is basically to buy, strip and flip. That's not good, but they are hardly Islamic State or running a CIA blackspot.
  9. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    There have been more than 600 mass shootings in the USA in each of the years since 2020. Source (not that you'd care): https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081
  10. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    That's true, but it's not our cause of death.
  11. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    Never met a trans person while REALISING that they are a trans person...
  12. iameviljez

    Rumour Sam Wick's - Teammates ex

    It was fun while it lasted.
  13. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    All-in brawls are only "acceptable" for two reasons: 1) There aren't the resources to correct identify the halfwits who think it's acceptable to try and smash someone's face in despite the fact that we have to work on Monday, and 2) Local footy is sometimes absolutely in the ******* Dark Ages.
  14. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    Yes, I can't believe it either. As in, I literally cannot believe it.
  15. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    Who refuses to bring their wife to a single club function because they "want to keep them private"? Gay footballers keep their relationships extremely private for one extremely good reason.
  16. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    It's not coming out, it's even just taking your boyfriend as your date to a B&F night or a red carpet. Which nobody has done thus far.
  17. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    I agree with the first bit, but not the second. If you ever are going to see a shift in society, you have to fight for it.
  18. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    I can only assume that you grew up under a rock somewhere. Certainly when I went to school in the late 90s, coming out as gay would have made you a massive social target.
  19. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    Most likely, yes. There's now a subset of people who actively like to push back against social taboo, to identify themselves as racist/homophobic/etc., and be contrarian to society's rules.
  20. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    Not necessarily, but it's getting much, much harder to use those words now in society without realising that they are now taboo, and making the connection as to why. Of course some parts of society change faster than others, but Gen Z are vastly less tolerant of people using "f*g" and "r****d"...
  21. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    It's an analogy, therefore it has a place in this thread.
  22. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    It's not exactly the same, but all the same the comparison is illustrative and worth bearing in mind. Obviously tackling is an intrinsic part of the game, in the same way that different workplaces have different levels of acceptable risk.
  23. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    Well, if you want to police literally everything ever said on an AFL field, be my guest. Frankly, that sounds unworkable to me. For what it's worth, I manage to get through my soccer game every week without calling my opponents names.
  24. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    Are you arguing that we should eliminate any and all sledging?
  25. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    "OK" is a weird term to use. To be frank, it's never something that is going to get a Tick of Approval but we just kind of roll with it because sledging is seen as being tolerable in professional sport.
  26. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    That's up to them and how they feel about it, and why. The reason why there is more tolerance for bald insults in society than for insults based on skin colour or race, is that bald men weren't separated from their families less than 100 years ago, they weren't thrown over cliffs on the...
  27. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    As a bald man myself, honestly I just find it pretty ridiculous and laugh it off. It's so, so, so much less historically charged than anything to do with LGBT sexuality or blackness that it's not the same league, it's barely even the same sport.
  28. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    We are. If you called someone a c*** s***** in the workplace, at a family gathering, in a club, on the train, wherever, then you'd be pretty immediately removed, ostracised and shunned. This isn't hysteria, it's just real world, with real world consequences.
  29. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    It depends on what kind of job we're talking, to be fair. If he were on a construction site, the mines or in a logistics yard, he probably would. If he were in my office job, then honestly he'd be out that door before midday.
  30. iameviljez

    Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

    It's not about whether it hurts the receiver at all. It's about whether it's ok to say it or not. I doubt the recipient was personally hurt at being called a c*** s*****, but that's not the point.
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