2010 - Post-mortems

[Skystyler]

You've had time to do your analysis. Where did you go wrong this year?

For me, its simple. One look at the winning team and it leapt out at me.

The ruck. I wasted far too many trades on ruckmen. I started with Sandilands (the obvious #1 ruckman. I think most good judges had him), Clark, Warnock and Stanley. If I had just kept those 4 all season, I would have been so much better off. Instead I jumped ship on Clark when he started the season poorly to Seaby who didn't last long, then to Kreuzer and finally to Jolly. Then Sandilands went down during the finals, so to avoid a donut I jumped on the Mummy, who promptly got injured.

The guy who won finished with Sandi, Cox, Warnock and Skipper. I bet thats how he started too. You cant waste trades on ruckmen.

Other dud moves include starting with Ben Warren as my 7th forward, not picking Ablett to start with and never jumping on the Swan bandwagon. Other than that, I went alright.

 

[AssassinAndy]

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Agreed the rucks cost me alot of points and trades this year. Started with Clark and Tippett neither was in my side at seasons end. I believe it was a 3 to 4 trade process by memory to get Sandi and Cox into my side which meant I was never able to fully finish my team off the way I wanted. My Riewoldt to Brown instead of Chapman trade and also switching Gilbee to Carrazzo with seconds to go before lockout round 1 cost me. But that's what this game is all about hopefully learn from these mistakes and improve again next season. Won't skimp on starting ruckman next season that's for sure!

 

[Evil Toucan]

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Couldn't agree with you guys more. If you can leave your rucks all season, you have those crucial trades in hand to make those final upgrades that you may have just missed out on.

For mine, it was trades altogether. I have a serious issue there. I was coming 37th overall after about round 12 or 13, and then just went silly with trades. I think I went Hille to Kreuzer the week Kreuz got injured and that's when things all went sour. It's fair to say Barlow didn't do much for my side come finals time Ended up finishing about 1800 odd after runnning out of trades in about round 14

 

[dlanod]

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I learnt the ruck lesson last year in exactly the same manner, so had Sandilands, Hille, Warnock and Lobbe to start with and a definite plan to trade Hille to Cox when Cox had bottomed out and all went to plan.

The lesson I learnt this year was injury-prone players are generally still injury prone (Higgins) and for the effort of figuring out which midpricer is going to fire, you can generally switch one to a rookie and one to a gun with no overall change in ability.

 

[The Real Deal]

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Posted this somewhere else but wanted to know people's opinions. I thought I may have made a mistake starting with rookies like Gumbleton who were named in Rd.1 instead of picking Pods and Rockliff who took a few rounds to get a game. What did people do with their forward rookies in the initial team?

 

[dlanod]

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I didn't have either, but traded in Pods for Hitchcock (only made $70k, but Hitchcock had been dropped/injured). I don't think there's a right answer, as this season the obvious answer would be to have both instead of Hitchcock, Roberts, Gumbleton or Peterson (depending on which forward rookies you had). However both may have taken longer to get games than they did and the equivalent players may not work out next season. I think the right answer would have been try to get one in once it became obvious they were scoring big, ala what you would have had to have done if you didn't have Barlow. Sometimes you need to swallow your pride and grab that rookie going nuts.

 

[The Real Deal]

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In regards to the rucks I picked Sandi, Clark, Warnock and Trengove at the start of the year and never traded. All the players got on the field at some stage due to injury/susp and it worked out ok. The only change I may have made looking back was picking an $83,400 player in the initial team as the 4th ruck to free up more cash. Probably depends on who the other 3 are though.

 

[Hondo]

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The guy who won finished with Sandi, Cox, Warnock and Skipper. I bet thats how he started too. You cant waste trades on ruckmen.

This is just a guess but I reckon he wouldn't have paid $600Kish for Cox at the start but instead traded someone up to him when he droped to $420K at around round 6.

 

[TigerGlory]

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I had the same ruckman all year.

I had some stupid trades that cost me, and a couple of blunders with my starting team. Some absolute shockers that I did were;

Trading Brent Harvey out after Round 3 because I thought he was going downhill and picking up Jonathan Brown who ended up going downhill for the rest of the year.

Starting with Sam Mitchell in the first place, then trading him out at $468,700 in Round 7 and upgrading to Leigh Montagna at $601,100 and using up all the cash I'd saved so far.

Starting with Ziebell who turned out to be average this season and trading him out at Round 9 and taking a gamble on Leon Davis which probably didnt pay off.

But had a reasonable season and cant really complain too much.

 

[Moonwalker]

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I swapped Sandilands for Clark at the last minute and like many people here wasted money on upgrading my ruck department.

My starting forwards (Tippett/Gray) and backline upgrades (kept O'Brien, traded in Russell for Waters) probably weren't that crash hot either. Certainly learnt a lot from this season, however with high-scoring rookies like Barlow, Rockliff, Fyfe and Podsiadly this season, I think you might not be able to get away with that many starting rookies next year. One guy in my league had 5 rookies in his forward-line (Fyfe/Rockliff/Pods all starting!) and for some reason managed to do really well.

 

[Troubadour]

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First year, no research. Started with

B: Malceski, Hodge, Kennelly, Henderson, Wojinski, Martin (Melb), Brown, N
Silvagni, Maguire

M: Cornes K, Rischitelli, Swan, Goodes, Cooney, Judd, Jetta (Syd), Rohan

R: Seaby, Natanui, Warnock, Charman

F: Riewoldt N, Lynch Q, Hall, Fevola, Bradshaw, Tippett, Neagle (Ess), Webb (Port), Winmar

and all trades used up by Round 11

Finished 2nd in my league and lost the prelim.