BER voting centres

[HarryTiger]

Just occurred to me, many of these new halls will soom be the very places where voters chuck their ballots in the box.

Or perhaps they'll instead be voting in one perfectly good school hall whilst adjacent there is another Under Construction.

Perhaps the Lib staffers could stick a price tag on the building where they walk in....

Will they all have already made their mind up or could some be swayed by the first hand observation of Labor's splurge? (either way)

 

[Pessimistic]

Just occurred to me, many of these new halls will soom be the very places where voters chuck their ballots in the box.

Or perhaps they'll instead be voting in one perfectly good school hall whilst adjacent there is another Under Construction.

Perhaps the Lib staffers could stick a price tag on the building where they walk in....

Will they all have already made their mind up or could some be swayed by the first hand observation of Labor's splurge? (either way)

You really have no idea about the BER do you ?

Maybe the priincple can attend all day and stand there with the 'thumbs up or thumbs down.

And the lib (or lab) staffers are people that everyone will automatially believe ? hilarious !

We dont really even want to speak to them !

 

[HarryTiger]

Do you know what a 'swinging voter' is?

Hint, nothing to do with monkeys or sex parties.

 

[Doctor Jolly]

For the record, you cant do political advertising (eg handouts, posters) inside the school grounds, so the plan wont work.

But if the libs did put a price on the hall, I think the parents would say: "Awesome. We got $3 million dollar facility from the government, which the mines are paying for"

 

[Pessimistic]

Ironically , if a school doesnt have an improvement yet, or one is in the planning, the vote could make the biggest difference.

if Abbot gets in theres a strong chance they will be cancelled

But its for the 'national good' isnt it ?

 

[Pessimistic]

For the record, you cant do political advertising (eg handouts, posters) inside the school grounds, so the plan wont work.

But if the libs did put a price on the hall, I think the parents would say: "Awesome. We got $3 million dollar facility from the government, which the mines are paying for"

They make a point of getting there before th ALP "rabble" and covering the fence with their junk. They make apoint of sneering at other parties' volunteers. god knows why, they are all political 'no-life' junkies too.

I only got involved once - parked my car with "NoGST" posters on it slap bang in front of it all !

 

[Pessimistic]

Do you know what a 'swinging voter' is?

Hint, nothing to do with monkeys or sex parties.

I'm betting none of your friends would admit it to you if they were !

I'm also tipping those "Built with commonwealth money" signs will be the first things covered up by lib plastic

 

[PottSie2]

Ironically , if a school doesnt have an improvement yet, or one is in the planning, the vote could make the biggest difference.

if Abbot gets in theres a strong chance they will be cancelled

But its for the 'national good' isnt it ?

*I believe* Abbott has already mentioned that the remaining funds (5.1 Billion) will be sent directly to the Principles and P&C's to attain the best value for money as the independant and Catholic schools have.

I didn't realise debates revolved around going down the path of just making up policies for parties.

 

[bombermick]

Hadn't thought of people perhaps changing their vote when they see these new halls. I guess some swinging voters will be swayed, but I would hope that most would have made up their mind before they get into their cars.

 

[Doctor Jolly]

I just inspected my local primary schools BER new library.

Marvelous facility, perfectly suited to the schools needs. Has a very good video conferencing centre where kids can talk to other schools, do "virtual excursions" to nasa (for example), and have video discussions with leading authors from where ever they are.

The principal, and the teachers, were positively gushing about it.

 

[HarryTiger]

I just inspected my local primary schools BER new library.

Marvelous facility, perfectly suited to the schools needs. Has a very good video conferencing centre where kids can talk to other schools, do "virtual excursions" to nasa (for example), and have video discussions with leading authors from where ever they are.

The principal, and the teachers, were positively gushing about it.

I like the sound of it. Just hope the builders didn't do a job on them (us).

 

[King Elvis]

I just inspected my local primary schools BER new library.

Marvelous facility, perfectly suited to the schools needs. Has a very good video conferencing centre where kids can talk to other schools, do "virtual excursions" to nasa (for example), and have video discussions with leading authors from where ever they are.

The principal, and the teachers, were positively gushing about it.

Sounds awesome - as it should; hopefully they didn't pay twice as much than they should have, and the school down the street didn't get a facility completely unsuitable.

You guys need to realise that most of us aren't bagging the intent of the BER program, but the administration and execution of it.

 

[Caesar]

Just occurred to me, many of these new halls will soom be the very places where voters chuck their ballots in the box.

Or perhaps they'll instead be voting in one perfectly good school hall whilst adjacent there is another Under Construction.

Perhaps the Lib staffers could stick a price tag on the building where they walk in....

Will they all have already made their mind up or could some be swayed by the first hand observation of Labor's splurge? (either way)

This is why the grant contracts stipulated that the BER signs had to be left up outside the buildings until March 2011, regardless of when the projects were finished. You may recall that Jan/Feb 2011 is just about the absolute latest that the election could have been called.

The government knew from the outset that they wanted voters walking into schools past the big signs reminding them of what a good thing they'd done for the local community. I think there is a thread around here somewhere about that little clause in the grant agreement.

Who knows if it will have any effect on the average voter. My first reaction is of course not, but I wouldn't be surprised at this point if it did.

 

[Doctor Jolly]

Sounds awesome - as it should; hopefully they didn't pay twice as much than they should have, and the school down the street didn't get a facility completely unsuitable.

You guys need to realise that most of us aren't bagging the intent of the BER program, but the administration and execution of it.

No, you guys are bagging it because the liberal party tells you to. And a newspaper says it happened to a handful of schools, and therefore must have happened to all.

Rather than be fed lies, go seek out your nearest school, and take a look. Ask the teachers, principals or parents if you can.

 

[Pessimistic]

Sounds awesome - as it should; hopefully they didn't pay twice as much than they should have, and the school down the street didn't get a facility completely unsuitable.

You guys need to realise that most of us aren't bagging the intent of the BER program, but the administration and execution of it.

And I am saying you are bagging the whole program without any knowledge of whats going on. But you are liberal suporters.

So it looks OK, it must have been 'rorted'

How the hell do you know ?

Liberal advertising is unsourced. Outrageous cliams with no source.

Bishop was on tonight repeating those immigration numbers which were discredited a week ago

Every ALP claim in their advertising has a source. every one

 

[Pessimistic]

This is why the grant contracts stipulated that the BER signs had to be left up outside the buildings until March 2011, regardless of when the projects were finished. You may recall that Jan/Feb 2011 is just about the absolute latest that the election could have been called.

The government knew from the outset that they wanted voters walking into schools past the big signs reminding them of what a good thing they'd done for the local community. I think there is a thread around here somewhere about that little clause in the grant agreement.

Who knows if it will have any effect on the average voter. My first reaction is of course not, but I wouldn't be surprised at this point if it did.

If the libs had done it it would be 'wonderful strategy'

as I said they should put "libs provided this" on all those flagpoles they provided" that wasnt a waste was it ?

And if you drive around you see 'roads to recovery' signs everywhere - the signs tend not to be taken down anyway

 

[Caesar]

There's no contractual requirement that R2R signs stay up until after polling day.

Trying to spin it just makes you look like a desperate fanboy, don't bother. Any way you slice it, it's a dirty and cynical piece of electioneering that's set the bar lower for both parties from this point on.

 

[Pessimistic]

There's no contractual requirement that R2R signs stay up until after polling day.

Trying to spin it just makes you look like a desperate fanboy, don't bother. Any way you slice it, it's a dirty and cynical piece of electioneering that's set the bar lower for both parties from this point on.

I'll raise you a debt truck or two. At least those signs are FACTUAL

On that you heard we have just had a record GOOD balance of payments figure ?

 

[Caesar]

Now you're just deflecting.

It would help your credibility if you acknowledged and condemned crappy political behaviour regardless of source. Including your favoured party.

 

[PottSie2]

Victoria confirms the sorry BER tale

Like NSW, Victoria is paying twice as much as the Catholic school system and well above standard industry costs.


Of necessity, The Australian's series of reports documenting concerns about the BER has focused on NSW; until yesterday, it was the only state to have made public its building costs.


The federal government has dismissed reports of inflated costs as being confined to NSW but the story is similar in Victoria and, presumably, around the nation. The onus is now on the other states and territories to reveal the figures.

The **** there is 1 paper willing to do investigative journalism.

And now we have the Orgill report handed down today .... an 'independent' report
- who's Author was chosen by Gillard.
- who's terms of reference were set-out by Gillard
- who's scope was only limited to those that actually complained (or who had the guts to complain)
- and even then, were only accepted to certain criteria (re: 112 complaints ignored by the Orgill report.
- and even then, only those that knew their costs could complain (re: Victorain State Govt. refusing to release costs to P&C's and Principals)

Now let's see how this will play out. The report will state that only a certain % (because the number of complaints were limited due to issues above) of projects had inflated costs which Julia will use to indicate that the scheme is not being rorted/wasted.

If she does go down this route, it will confirm that even though the leader has changed, the product hasn't. It's still a Govt. addicted to spin. The people won't buy it.