Bigger Bodies

[Croat tiger]

I'm sure you've all noticed we seem to a side light on big men other than Richo and Simmo there isn't much else, I know overall we still have a lot of kids developing and growing but they don't seem to be expanding much in the weight department other than Thursfield which I was pleased to hear has put on a lot of weight over summer.I just think as well as speed you need some bulk in this type of competition so you don't get brushed aside by the big boys.Any thoughts where we can improve on this department?

 

[PLSC]

probably getting mckenzie instead of edwards

jesse white instead of collins

nathan jones instead of jon

ect

cant change it now mate just got to get the pre seasons in

 

[Tigerbob]

I'm sure you've all noticed we seem to a side light on big men other than Richo and Simmo there isn't much else, I know overall we still have a lot of kids developing and growing but they don't seem to be expanding much in the weight department other than Thursfield which I was pleased to hear has put on a lot of weight over summer.I just think as well as speed you need some bulk in this type of competition so you don't get brushed aside by the big boys.Any thoughts where we can improve on this department?

By getting better fitness staff - we have got to have the worst conditioning and fitness people in the game!

 

[Croat tiger]

By getting better fitness staff - we have got to have the worst conditioning and fitness people in the game!

Agreed there tigerbob some of the kids look like ethiopians on the football field.

 

[Tigerbob]

Agreed there tigerbob some of the kids look like ethiopians on the football field.

Well lets have a look year after year and see we are the weakest, skinniest teams running around!

Even the Bulldogs who play that hard running game are a big unit, with their small men still very big!

 

[Croat tiger]

Well lets have a look year after year and see we are the weakest, skinniest teams running around!

Even the Bulldogs who play that hard running game are a big unit, with their small men still very big!

Obviously eade has better fitness advisors than we do.

 

[Weaver]

Even the Bulldogs who play that hard running game are a big unit, with their small men still very big!

But that took a lot longer than people think. Those 'young' Bulldogs have had a lot of preseasons in the gym. Rob Murphy is 24 with 7 preaseaons behind him. Gilbee is 25, McMahon is 23, Hahn is 25, Cross is 24, Giansiracusa is 25, Boyd is 24.

Kids don't win games in this league - and most of those Dogs' midfielders started off anorexic.

 

[footy4eva]

Obviously eade has better fitness advisors than we do.

the bulldogs are not that big!!! they have plenty of skinny light on players


ffs, we have a much younger list than they do also.

remember griffen is a yr older than lids too!!!

 

[Tambo]

Lmao

 

[Croat tiger]

the bulldogs are not that big!!! they have plenty of skinny light on players


ffs, we have a much younger list than they do also.

remember griffen is a yr older than lids too!!!

Griffen has alway's been big,I'm more worried about our midfielders who are getting pushed aside and some of the talls a bit light on too.

 

[Rainsy]

By getting better fitness staff - we have got to have the worst conditioning and fitness people in the game!

Curious to find out who you think should go in the fitness-conditioning department. Who do we need to get rid of?

 

[tigerT]

you cant blame 2 decades of ineptitude on current staff. I think the staff thats been put in place since plough came down is far and away the best we've had. Dont forget we have a lot of kids there so it will take time and yes admittedly we do seem to draft the skinny kids, but when you see players like Tambling putting on 5 kgs in a pre season, lids putting on 8 kgs since he came, raines and foley really bulking up the past 2 seasons, graham 8 kgs, not to mention the size in Hughes, McGuane and Thursfield after their 2nd preseason, id say we dont have an issue in that department any longer.

Its also up to the players to show commitment, you cant hold their hand the whole way through, there'll always be exceptions, either their bodies arent designed to bulk up or they just flat out cheat themselves and the club by not working hard enough.

 

[sante]

We draft smaller players who have the strengths of running and skill. They coincidentally are light. They'll build up...

 

[TUNGTWISTER]

you cant blame 2 decades of ineptitude on current staff. I think the staff thats been put in place since plough came down is far and away the best we've had. Dont forget we have a lot of kids there so it will take time and yes admittedly we do seem to draft the skinny kids, but when you see players like Tambling putting on 5 kgs in a pre season, lids putting on 8 kgs since he came, raines and foley really bulking up the past 2 seasons, graham 8 kgs, not to mention the size in Hughes, McGuane and Thursfield after their 2nd preseason, id say we dont have an issue in that department any longer.

Its also up to the players to show commitment, you cant hold their hand the whole way through, there'll always be exceptions, either their bodies arent designed to bulk up or they just flat out cheat themselves and the club by not working hard enough.

You must be joking! Who is going to stop any one of the power forwards from any other team. Even bloody Rocca looks like a star against our team of play from behind, skinny duds

 

[tigerT]

You must be joking! Who is going to stop any one of the power forwards from any other team. Even bloody Rocca looks like a star against our team of play from behind, skinny duds

take away gaspar and hall who have been there years and are lost causes re the big frames tell me any 1st 2nd or 3rd year KP player that should be able to go with a Rocca type? cmon mate, but when you see hughes, McGuane, Thursfield all getting bigger from season to season you know that at least they are doing something right!

besides polak was drafted to ease our worries against the big forwards, whether hes good enough we shall see

 

[Crumden]

While I agree this has been a long term problem for us, I thing things have improved in the last year or two. If you look at our senior players, most are a good size. Richo, Simmonds, Knoble, Tuck, Couchlan, J Bowden, Polak, Johnson, Newman are all pretty solid. Hall and Gaspar could do with some extra beef, but both are wiry body types that aren't going to get huge. Of the younger players, Deledio is getting much bigger each year, and the likes of Hartigan, Jackson, Foley and White are all reasonably solid for young blokes. With a few exceptions, most of the skinny blokes are ones who are in the first 3 or so years and even with players like Tambling there has been noticeable improvement, unlike previous years when they seemed to get skinnier over summer.

 

[Yeah161]

yes, we need bigger boddies ...

but i would perfer, hitting the weights ...

and getting more physical !

not the Kg on ...

just hit the gym hard ... get strength, which is better ...

with Kg, you may lose speed ... so just hit the gym ...

 

[Haggard H]

probably getting mckenzie instead of edwards

jesse white instead of collins

nathan jones instead of jon

ect

cant change it now mate just got to get the pre seasons in

We are a little light on, agreed, but maybe you'd prefer we were like the heaviest team in the competition - Carlton. To this end maybe instead of drafting Edwards, Collins and JON we should have gone after C. Cloke, Acland and McLaren. Or Saddington, O'Hailpen and O'Hailpen.

Then we would be big and scarey and all other teams would fear us.

 

[buffalopride]

we do need bigger boddies no doubt about it, although if we can maintain speed and weight it would be ideal. we have many fast agile players but find it hard to keep their feet when bumped or tackled. The doggies are a young slimmer side yet there running game allows them to not have to put on as much weight and weave through the game. its not just weight issue its how the game is played and what our plans throughout the game are.

 

[PLSC]

We are a little light on, agreed, but maybe you'd prefer we were like the heaviest team in the competition - Carlton. To this end maybe instead of drafting Edwards, Collins and JON we should have gone after C. Cloke, Acland and McLaren. Or Saddington, O'Hailpen and O'Hailpen.

Then we would be big and scarey and all other teams would fear us.

rubbish

edwards,collins,jon,peterson are 18 year olds while you mention ackland and mclaren who are mid-20's and ruckman? they are meant to be big you goose

all i said was when you pick skinny runners you should expect to be the smallest team in the comp

 

[buffalopride]

u shouldn't expect anything when you pick smaller players. Nathan Jone's for melb last year was a solid short player with talent and speed, as too was Judd when he started out. even if we do have a small team it dosnt mean we cant develope and be a bigger running team.