Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 8: This Thread is for Reasonable ON TOPIC Discussion
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I have been struggling for over 3 months since my second jab. As my doctor said, unfortunately a small percentage of people will react badly to all vaccines. The issue with this one is we are doing millions of injections. I am legit scared of the booster, he has said to wait until mid March but vaccines do waaaaaaaaay more good than harm. Like it’s not even close.
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It has not killed 18 million people.
That is blatant lies and you know it.
When gunshot victims/car accidents etc who happen to test positive are counted in the death count.
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Mate you are just wrong. It's 10 to 20 million with best estimate at this time around 18 million.
Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19)
Excess mortality is a term used in epidemiology and public health that refers to the number of deaths from all causes during a crisis above and beyond what we would have expected to see under ‘normal’ conditions.1 In this case, we’re interested in how the number of deaths during the COVID-19...
Only the crazies think that though.
Okay so how many gunshot/ car crash victims who also happened to have COVID do you think there have been?
Your whackjob numbers just don't add up
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What's your alternative? Lock us down? Home-schooling?
I'm sure everyone here will accept that more people will die as we open up. That's the cost of living, isn't it?
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There's plenty of alternative options for those of you who live in fear.Address what?
You continually diminishing anyone dying due to COVID?
Take today's figure. 47 deaths doesn't sound like much right? They're only incidental anyway right? Nothing to think about right?
47 * 365 = 17,155
Now in 2020 we recorded 161,300 deaths, so barely over 10% of them! Nothing to worry about right? Incidental deaths right?
17,155 deaths would mean COVID is killing - in a highly vaccinated population - more people than anything other than perhaps Heart Disease.
Not sure that's quite so mild now, or quite so incidental.
Causes of Death, Australia, 2020
Statistics on the number of deaths, by sex, selected age groups, and cause of death classified to the International Classification of Diseases (ICD)www.abs.gov.au
WFH options are plenteous. Groceries can be home delivered without contact. Home-school your kids. Get a home gym.
I'm happy to give you more tips if that hasn't alleviated your fears.
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You are obviously living in fear, and you're not alone on BF. It's sad to see, but such is life.
There's plenty of your ilk who regularly post on the SRP.
I've suggested alternatives to your normal way of life that carry less risk, so showing a little gratitude is the least you should do.
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The problem with graphs/numbers is that some people just don't understand them. But this is presented in a nice simple way that most people can understand.
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so Novavax been out for a day and we still not 100% vaxed.
I expected people lined up like they where to get medical exemptions in October.
www.dailymail.co.uk
I expected people lined up like they where to get medical exemptions in October.
Dozens of Victorians queue outside GP office for a vaccine exemption
Hundreds of Victorians have gathered outside a general practice in hopes to get a Covid-19 vaccination exemption from a doctor in regional Victoria.
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so Novavax been out for a day and we still not 100% vaxed.
I expected people lined up like they where to they medical exemptions in October.
Dozens of Victorians queue outside GP office for a vaccine exemption
Hundreds of Victorians have gathered outside a general practice in hopes to get a Covid-19 vaccination exemption from a doctor in regional Victoria.
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Honesty I know people who been waiting for Novavax as it was their prefered vax.
Also know a few who forced to get another vax and will wait for Novavax for a booster.
If you waited please get jabbed soon.
The unvaxed still make up a big % of people in hospitals because of COVID also 5% making up a lot of the deaths sadly.
We heard over and over they not anti vax just do not want the new untested type. So now Novavax available hope we get half of the 5% jabbed soon.
All great for Scotty, Dan, Dom etc to say we push through this.
Not seen them do 12 hour days in full PPE in hospital emerg. Like health workers I know doing.
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‘Scare campaign’: The reality of Covid deaths
Radio host Ben Fordham has claimed new data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) regarding the nation’s Covid-19 deaths exposes “the overblown scare campaign we’ve witnessed”.
www.news.com.au
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That's pretty full on!
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‘Scare campaign’: The reality of Covid deaths
Radio host Ben Fordham has claimed new data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) regarding the nation’s Covid-19 deaths exposes “the overblown scare campaign we’ve witnessed”.
That's pretty full on!
See, this is where the nuff nuffs fall for it;
One doesn't imply the other.
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47% of people have underlying health issues and 67% obese.‘Scare campaign’: The reality of Covid deaths
Radio host Ben Fordham has claimed new data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) regarding the nation’s Covid-19 deaths exposes “the overblown scare campaign we’ve witnessed”.
That's pretty full on!
National Health Survey: First results, 2017-18 financial year
Presents key findings for health statistics including long-term health conditions; mental wellbeing; and health risk factors
yes be great to know what the true figure of deaths are from COVID. We never really know..
remember reading I think Andrew Bolt saying why should be locked up these people going to die anyway.
Pretty sure most of those families where COVID gave their loved one a push.. Like to have more time.
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Of course - though I think the question that is being asked as a result is that worth locking the rest of the country down as they did.
The issue I have with the above article is that in hindsight its easy for people to claim that the restrictions weren't worth it etc if it's only going to kill those with existing issues - but how many other potential deaths did lockdowns prevent.. they don't seem to want to consider that. Especially back with the earlier strains where the case number to death rate was far greater than what we're currently seeing.
And then factor in the statistics from the point of vaccination rates becoming higher - how many deaths of those without underlying issues has the vaccination prevented.
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The merit at the time was no vax. Deaths even now a larger % then 5% each day not vaxed at all.
Murdoch press all about freedums
my 10 year twins have 2 issues. My father inlaw in his 70's has 4 issues.
i have 3 existing conditions in my 50's I hope to live longer than a couple of weeks.
I assume we all expendable to Andrew Bolt and his mates.
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Thinking about it
Yes probably someone has COVID died in a car crash down as COVID.
There also be people who you know died of COVID not related to other pre existing conditions.
My son has nut allergy.. So pre existing condition anaphylaxis
If he died of COVID you have all these people sad he was 15 and died although pre existing underlying conditions. See I am right COVID does not kill
I look at it
Some people who died had COVID and it helped move the expiry date to sooner. How many weeks, months or years forward we never know.
There also be people who died anyway from something else and just had COVID.
There also some people died you know because they had COVID only
all of them sad.
Yes probably someone has COVID died in a car crash down as COVID.
There also be people who you know died of COVID not related to other pre existing conditions.
My son has nut allergy.. So pre existing condition anaphylaxis
If he died of COVID you have all these people sad he was 15 and died although pre existing underlying conditions. See I am right COVID does not kill
I look at it
Some people who died had COVID and it helped move the expiry date to sooner. How many weeks, months or years forward we never know.
There also be people who died anyway from something else and just had COVID.
There also some people died you know because they had COVID only
all of them sad.
i dont think that's considered an underlying health issue?
