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Originally posted by otaku
Dont get all reasonable on me now, boy.

In the context of my comment, your advice was bad. Generally, it might be ok. But in context, it is bad advice :p

Please show me where I have misconstrued what you have said and what I have taken out of context?

Me
Unless someone is 100% confident in their own disarming abilities, I would suggest they are better off complying, in regards to handing over money from a cash register etc.


You
just making them more confident that they can walk in off the street and steal money. Panders to the c*nts in our society. Bad advice.

You
The reason it is bad advice is based on the fact that once people know they can get away with robbing a place, they will do it over and over until they are stopped.

You
If you pander to the criminal aspect, it gives them more confidence to continue commiting the crimes.

You.

If you were 99.9999999999999999999999999% certain that you could disrm this guy, but didnt, and he came back over and over.

your advice is to let him, cause money isnt worth getting hurt over.

He then comes back and kills your 98 year old grandmother, who just so happened to be in the store when a robbery of his went wrong. Thus your advice is bad.



You advocate people risking injury, so

1. We dont pander to the c**** in society.
2. That once people know they can rob a place they will come back.
3. So we dont give criminals more confidence to commit crimes.
4. So they dont come back and kill your 98 year old grandmother.

What part have I taken out of context.

I will let the shop assistants and store owners be the judge of what advice they should take.
 

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Originally posted by otaku
not so - i have never stated this is what i advocate.

with this one sentence, you change the entire focus of the discussion

But you stated that advocating people not to risk injury is bad advice.

What one is it?
 
Originally posted by otaku
not mutually exclusive.

i am saying that any blanket statement can be taken asa bad advice

But it wasnt a 'blanket statement. It was quite clear.

Me
Unless someone is 100% confident in their own disarming abilities, I would suggest they are better off complying, in regards to handing over money from a cash register etc.

as was your response to this statement, quite clear.

You
just making them more confident that they can walk in off the street and steal money. Panders to the c*nts in our society. Bad advice.

So do you advocate the advice in not risking injury?
 
Originally posted by EssJayW
But it wasnt a 'blanket statement. It was quite clear.

Me
Unless someone is 100% confident in their own disarming abilities, I would suggest they are better off complying, in regards to handing over money from a cash register etc.

as was your response to this statement, quite clear.

You
just making them more confident that they can walk in off the street and steal money. Panders to the c*nts in our society. Bad advice.

So do you advocate the advice in not risking injury?

any statement that includes an absolute like "100%" is a blanket statement.

noone is 100% sure.

my statements related to my stance and my stance alone. You are the one trying to bring other people into the argument.
 
Originally posted by otaku
any statement that includes an absolute like "100%" is a blanket statement.

noone is 100% sure.

my statements related to my stance and my stance alone. You are the one trying to bring other people into the argument.

My statement was not related to you. The statement is quite clear in its meaning. You chose to say it was bad advice, and you have given 4 different reasons, which all advocate risking injury. But then you say the opposite.

Which one is it?

Comply or risk injury?

Quite simple Otaku.
 
Originally posted by EssJayW

Comply or risk injury?
are you implying that complying does not risk injury? If not, it's not as simple as you condescendingly make out.
 
Originally posted by EssJayW
Unless someone is 100% confident in their own disarming abilities, I would suggest they are better off complying, in regards to handing over money from a cash register etc
didn't help that Asian guy who was murdered at a Mobil service station in Lakemba when he just let a bandit help himself to the till and then he repeatedly stabbed him to death.
 
Originally posted by nicko18
didn't help that Asian guy who was murdered at a Mobil service station in Lakemba when he just let a bandit help himself to the till and then he repeatedly stabbed him to death.

Is there a point to this.
 
Originally posted by nicko18
are you implying that complying does not risk injury? If not, it's not as simple as you condescendingly make out.

Get your blinkers off and read the thread.

If you agree it is bad advice, tell me why?
 

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