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Milanista · Oct 12, 2004

How much ate they? I asked at this shop it is a pioneer dual-layer and they ask for $170 is that too much or about right? And to burn games for playstation 2 (i know its illegal) do you need a dvd burner and dvd cd's or can you do it with a cd burner? I'm just curious!

feher · Oct 13, 2004

If you look around you might be able to pick it up for $160

On the PS2 thing, you will need to get it 'chipped' so it can play backup dvd's, but as i don't own a ps2 i don't know more then that.

As this is a backup guide site, i think the mods might let me get away with this, read this article:

http://www.fileforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48609

Oh and if you do post on that site, expect a banning if you mention the samething you mentioned here, they have absoutley no tolerance what so ever, unless you own the original game.

Milanista · Oct 13, 2004

As i said i was just curious, i have no intention of doing it. I went to few more places and it was 170 everywhere so i bought it for 170 but what does dual layer mean?

lozstar · Oct 14, 2004

Milanista said:
As i said i was just curious, i have no intention of doing it. I went to few more places and it was 170 everywhere so i bought it for 170 but what does dual layer mean?

a normal dvd disc is 4-ish gb's.. but with dual layer, i think, its 12-ish gb's you can do.

.. but only if you buy the dual layer discs.

Former · Oct 14, 2004

9 or so GB on dual layer. The media is coming but I haven't gotten access to any yet. It will be expensive when it does arrive.

lozstar · Oct 14, 2004

Groves said:
9 or so GB on dual layer. The media is coming but I haven't gotten access to any yet. It will be expensive when it does arrive.

I got told it was about $20 per disc.

Bueller · Oct 15, 2004

Don't worry to much about dual layer - they will be very expensive (ie. the media) when they arrive, and will stay that way for a while.

In any case, I recommend that you buy a Pioneer DVD burner. Very good!

Milanista · Oct 15, 2004

I got one today, it is a dual layer but the plain cd is still only 4gb why is that? And also why cant i burn the dvd's that i borrow?

feher · Oct 15, 2004

Milanista said:
I got one today, it is a dual layer but the plain cd is still only 4gb why is that? And also why cant i burn the dvd's that i borrow?

if its 4'ish gb its a single layer dvd, i don't think dual layer dvd's are easy to come by yet.

Milanista · Oct 16, 2004

So i got ripped off? I was told that it was dual layer pioneer i paid $170? Should i go back to the shop or what?

lozstar · Oct 16, 2004

Milanista said:
So i got ripped off? I was told that it was dual layer pioneer i paid $170? Should i go back to the shop or what?

you need the special discs... which are dual layer discs, because they hold more than the dvd-r discs.

so no - you weren't ripped off.

if you wanted, you could buy some dual layer discs, to burn more onto, i guess.. but i've been told they're $20+

feher · Oct 16, 2004

Milanista said:
So i got ripped off? I was told that it was dual layer pioneer i paid $170? Should i go back to the shop or what?

what lozstar said, you can also burn normal CDR/CDRW disc as well, you need to ask for dual layer DVD's next time, but they are way too pricey at the moment imo.

deck · Oct 16, 2004

A place in malvern and pascoe vale sell dual layer discs for $10 each. http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf

deck · Oct 16, 2004

Milanista said:
I got one today, it is a dual layer but the plain cd is still only 4gb why is that? And also why cant i burn the dvd's that i borrow?

You need to shrink the files so they fit on a 4GB disc. http://www.videohelp.com/
You can download free software (dvd shrink) from there that can do it for you. Plenty of guides also to help you get started.

topdon · Oct 16, 2004

Bueller said:
Don't worry to much about dual layer - they will be very expensive (ie. the media) when they arrive, and will stay that way for a while.

In any case, I recommend that you buy a Pioneer DVD burner. Very good!

The Pioneer 108/A08 is their latest. It is dual-layer compatable. I'm holding back on purchasing one, at least until dual layer media is available at a reasonable price. My Pioneer 107/A07 is serving me well right now. Will just get a D/L to replace my CD/RW.

Munga · Oct 16, 2004

Looking down the track a bit, 25 GB DVD's should be mainstream in 3 or so years. But like I'm gonna wait for that!

I think they've also made a Terabyte disk that burns with a blue laser?? Don't know if they'll produce many of those, they are bigger than DVD's I think.

Milanista · Oct 17, 2004

Thanks to everyone for their help, i didnt know that there is special dual layer dvd's, i thought you could do it with the normal dvd's.

P.S. How can i copy the dvd's that i borrow from blockbuster or video ezy? They say that it is copy protected or something?

Milanista · Oct 17, 2004

deck said:
You need to shrink the files so they fit on a 4GB disc. http://www.videohelp.com/
You can download free software (dvd shrink) from there that can do it for you. Plenty of guides also to help you get started.

Can you give me the exact link coz i cant seem to find it?

feher · Oct 17, 2004

Milanista said:
Can you give me the exact link coz i cant seem to find it?

use the guide on this site, it has a link to dvd shrink:
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/dvdshrink31-main.htm

You most likely won't need to use IMG Tool or DVD Decryptor, you will understand this when you read the guide

Pedro · Oct 17, 2004

Heres another guide. Very easy to follow

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72022

Milanista · Oct 18, 2004

But guys why cant i burn dvd's like the footy show greatest hits i was trying to burn a back up it says it is copywrited any chance to get it burnt? Also when i shrink the dvd's do they still stay the same or do i lose chapters?

feher · Oct 18, 2004

Milanista said:
But guys why cant i burn dvd's like the footy show greatest hits i was trying to burn a back up it says it is copywrited any chance to get it burnt? Also when i shrink the dvd's do they still stay the same or do i lose chapters?

if you use dvd shrink you can choose to keep the chapters at the cost of some quality, you probably won't notice the difference anyway.

Bueller · Oct 18, 2004

Milanista said:
But guys why cant i burn dvd's like the footy show greatest hits i was trying to burn a back up it says it is copywrited any chance to get it burnt? Also when i shrink the dvd's do they still stay the same or do i lose chapters?

You will need to run a program like 'AnyDVD' in the background. It removes protection etc.

Pedro · Oct 18, 2004

Milanista said:
But guys why cant i burn dvd's like the footy show greatest hits i was trying to burn a back up it says it is copywrited any chance to get it burnt? Also when i shrink the dvd's do they still stay the same or do i lose chapters?

Read the link I provided for you. It explain it all.

deck · Oct 18, 2004

Milanista said:
But guys why cant i burn dvd's like the footy show greatest hits i was trying to burn a back up it says it is copywrited any chance to get it burnt? Also when i shrink the dvd's do they still stay the same or do i lose chapters?

Or try this link
http://www.thescrapyard.pwp.blueyon... freeware utilities to backup your movies.htm

Both these programs are freeware
http://www.dvddecrypter.com/
http://www.dvdshrink.org/

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