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Away from home, without our first choice ruckman against the best ruck in the game, against the best player in the game, against all the odds - and we just played superior football to the best team in the AFL. We lost it on the scoreboard, and that will hurt the boys as much as it hurts us, but make no mistake: we were the better football team tonight.

I'm not for a second saying we're a better football team than the Dockers. They're the best team in the comp by some considerable margin. But we were the better team tonight. The final scores will tell a different tale, but that's one of the most beautiful things about our game: the better team can lose.

We systematically pressured them to the point that they couldn't get a clear possession inside fifty for 90% of the game. In the first half, Fyfe's pack grab and resultant goal was the only "legitimate" goal they could score. The rest came directly from pressured snaps over the shoulder in congestion, either from a stoppage or marking contest. That shows how skilful Freo are, and how worthy they are of their #1 spot on the ladder, but it's not a reliable route to goal by any stretch. On another night, those five crucial first half goals that wobbled through from snaps might have gone a different way.

We conceded three goals with less than thirty seconds on the clock in quarters one, two and three. Two of those came with 9 seconds left on the clock. On another night, the siren might have beaten them.

We made more than our share of needless mistakes. Five kicks out of the full in the last quarter. An easy miss by White with two minutes remaining. Goldsack's dropped mark. Goldsack's awful fumble. Goldsack's mistimed spoil. Goldsack's terrible decision to attack the contest and let the ball out the back again. Goldsack's dropped mark again. All of these mistakes either cost us goals or gifted them to the opposition. On another night, we might have been cleaner. On another night, we might not have paid so dearly for our few mistakes.

The back-breaking goal was directly from a free kick. The goal before that, the possession chain was initiated from a free kick. In the third, Jamie waltzes in to an open goal only to be told there's a free against him for high contact - even though Ibbotson gave us a textbook example of leading with the head. The ball goes the length of the field for a goal. Pendles lays a textbook spoil, legally crunching the man under the ball, and gets pinged for a free kick against - and the ball goes the length of the field for a goal. That's football. But on another night, any of the above could have gone the other way.

If a single one of any of those factors goes the other way, we win the game. They didn't, and we lost.

But that doesn't mean we weren't fantastic. Bucks has long been a proponent of studying the process, not the result - and tonight the process was all positive. We were desperate, intense, disciplined, courageous, skilful, strong and filled with as much heart as I've seen in a Collingwood side for a decade.

A lot of us have been questioning our direction over the past few seasons. This effort should end any debate: we're not only on the right track, we're re-opening our premiership window at a speed so fast that we should all be very, very excited.

Go Pies.
 
Well written. I peeked at the post game thread, and in 1 page I drowned in the negativity.
We were great tonight. The fact is, you have to earn a win against the top of the table side in Perth. We went a long way towards doing just that.
 
Subi is a big ground and we gave everything we had in the first 3 quarter and that showed with the drop off of skills in the last. I'm not worried we showed a lot of guts. Few things to work on but we have a young team so that will come.
 

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Good post. Wouldn't necessarily agree we were the better team overall but we certainly had our chances in the last and didn't take them (coincidentally why I think we weren't the better team :P). I'm definitely not disappointed with the result though, because it's something to build on, and whilst a win would have been great, a loss like that isn't too much worse. My only real concern is now facing the Hawks after that game because we'll be so spent it'll be hard to come out and play to the required intensity. If we bring that same effort however I'd bank us to come away with the 4 points.
 
Good post. Wouldn't necessarily agree we were the better team overall but we certainly had our chances in the last and didn't take them (coincidentally why I think we weren't the better team :p). I'm definitely not disappointed with the result though, because it's something to build on, and whilst a win would have been great, a loss like that isn't too much worse. My only real concern is now facing the Hawks after that game because we'll be so spent it'll be hard to come out and play to the required intensity. If we bring that same effort however I'd bank us to come away with the 4 points.
\We get an 8 day break though
 
Speaking of DeGoey, I thought he was stiff not to get a free when he tried to kick it off the ground in the last quarter and had his legs taken away.
He just gestured toward the umpire as if to say that's what the rule is about.
 
Speaking of DeGoey, I thought he was stiff not to get a free when he tried to kick it off the ground in the last quarter and had his legs taken away.
He just gestured toward the umpire as if to say that's what the rule is about.
Absolutely agree Anzac. I know exactly what incident you're talking about and using unbiased eyes I even appealed both ways. I though De Goey was stiff, but I said to the people I was watching it with that there's no way it should be play on. Had to be contact below the knees or kicking in danger, had to be one or the other.
 
I thought we learnt a lot last night in what we need from here on to beat the top teams.

We need two rucks - Witts gave everything last night but big Sandi just wore him down.... Witts and Grundy will do that to young rucks in 3 years time.

Reid in for Goldsack - love Goldy and what he brings but you can't fumble, drop marks and fumble some more in the back 6 against Freo, Hawthorn and the Swans.

Scharenberg for Langdon - maybe as soon as this week if Scharenberg excels tomorrow. Langdon was much improved in the second half. But what I said for Goldsack applies to Langdon. In the end I think there is one spot for him or Oxley dependent on who's in best form.

White has 3 more weeks to justify his spot - think we need to play Witts and Grundy and he needs to do more as a second forward. He just had to kick that goal last night. I thought Clokey was ok last night but dragged up to the wings and White needed to do more deep when that happened. Probably holds his spot unless Moore plays forward and plays well at VFL.

We need more time - another 30 games into our youngsters like De Goey, Witts, Grundy, Crisp and Broomhead and we will be much better again. You can see it now in Williams and Adams.

Lastly, I was wrong on Varcoe. Great pick up and so important for us.
 
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If we were told before the game that we'd lose by 7 points every person on this board would've taken that.

Was a great effort from the guys. Alot of young guys in there as well. Loses like that galvanise a team to make sure it doesn't happen again. It will make us a better team in the long run.
 

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