Mandatory Vaccinations And Medical Exemptions

Are you for or against Mandatory Vaccinations

  • For

    Votes: 292 57.4%
  • Against

    Votes: 221 43.4%

  • Total voters
    509

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Will be interesting to see whether any AFL players will have any heart issues when pre-season training ramps up, or during games next year? We are seeing this happen all over the world with professional athletes recently. Soccer players in particular have been dropping like flies (Traore, Wyke, Eriksen, Aguero, etc). That's the tip of the iceberg too. Some say that players in cardio intensive sports are more at risk than others. So there is some concern for AFL players.
Surely you need to have actually had the vaccine for the vaccine to have been the cause?
 
So, the coroner's report hasn't been presented to anyone here.
Spot on.
Whats interesting is the article says "We have been made aware of false information rapidly circulating the internet and media outlets,' the statement published on Facebook read.
'We will be looking at taking legal action against those who have contributed to false details of Ianeta, Isaako and their children.'
What false details about the kids and the family??
 
Spot on.
Whats interesting is the article says "We have been made aware of false information rapidly circulating the internet and media outlets,' the statement published on Facebook read.
'We will be looking at taking legal action against those who have contributed to false details of Ianeta, Isaako and their children.'
That's how I'm seeing it. The anger is directed at media reports and internet posts, not anything to do with the covid diagnosis and coroner's findings.
 
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That's how I'm seeing it. The anger is directed at the media and internet, not anything to do with the covid diagnosis and coroner's findings.
I guess thats how I am reading it too. If it was in relation to covid v pneumonia, how would that anything to do with false details about the kids?
 
OK I won't bring up your typo about being the corner anymore! Freudian slip.

It wasn't a "gotcha" but you keep denying what the family are disclosing as being impossible, gas lighting and implying I'm lying or they're lying. As reported the family disclosed the findings of the Coroners report. Or maybe pneumonia should be the cause of death for many more that were classified as COVID-19 deaths?

"Family of youngest woman is NSW to die with Covid reveal the coroner's findings."

The devastated family of the youngest woman to die after contracting Covid-19 have revealed she died of pneumonia after findings from the coroner were handed down.

Ianeta Isaako, 30, was reported as the youngest woman in NSW to die with the respiratory virus after she collapsed at her home in Emerton, Sydney's west, on August 23.

A statement issued by the family this week said Mrs Isaako's official cause of death was pneumonia.

Her shattered loved ones are now considering taking legal action 'against those who have contributed false details' about Ianeta, her husband Sako and their three children.



Freudian slip? Really? Did I type it using voice text?

I don't understand how you think I'm saying the family is lying or you're lying.

I just don't think you or the family understand what is going on.

I've explained (yet again) in as simple language as I can but you can re-read my posts if you've missed something.

At some point Bluee you need to question what you understand when everyone has understood it clearly but you haven't.
 
I’ve got to be honest I don’t remember if I got the swine flu vaccine. At the same time though I do remember that the swine flu wasn’t causing the problems for the health system that COVID 19 is. I also don’t remember health advice saying I should get the vaccine that I deliberately ignored.


5.5 million doses were ordered initially and 4 million Australians took up the offer and got the swine flu jab. There was a lot of publicity at the time and the health advice was definitely advising people to take it. Seems you didn't take up the offer. Pretty hypocritical labelling anyone not taking the Covid vaccine as a filthy anti vaxxer IMO.
 
In the early 1950s, there were still tens of millions of cases of smallpox globally per year.

Not sure what point you are trying to make here. Vaccinations against smallpox started in the UK in 1796. So after 150 years of vaccination there were still (according to you) "tens of millions of cases annually. Keep in mind that in the UK in 1853 the Government made smallpox vaccinations compulsory, but the incidence of the disease kept increasing and in 1872 another epidemic killed ~44,000 people, most of whom were vaccinated. The compulsory vaccination law was abolished in 1948. So out of 150 years of vaccination in the UK almost 100 years of which were compulsory what was the net effect? Not much it seems. My parents took me and my brother to the UK in 1979 for a working holiday. I was a young kid in primary school and I had to be vaccinated for smallpox while there after 100 years of compulsory vaccination against it!
 
Are we just going to ignore healthy children have died post vaccination?

I'm yet to see any reports of healthy children without comorbidities dying from Covid.

Which children died post vaccination?

Again trivializing children deaths. Disgusting.

You also failed to answer how Spanish Flu fizzled out. Did you actually do some reading and decided to ignore it? Good for you.
 
If this Nu strain becomes the dominant strain and the current vaccines are useless against it, will they still be mandatory?
 

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What are you on about? I already explained what happened in #5,010. Obviously you didn't read it very well.

You said this and quote:

That's the prevailing narrative but not everyone thinks it's that's simple. Take the Spanish Flu as an example. That wasn't eradicated by vaccines because there weren't any flu vaccines at the time. People just developed immunity and it slowly became less virulent and faded into the background.

I just would like more clarification on the bolded. How did it fade into the background?
 
If this Nu strain becomes the dominant strain and the current vaccines are useless against it, will they still be mandatory?

I doubt the current vaccines will be useless as they will still offer some protection as the strain is similar.

The do nothing approach is really not a good approach is really not a good approach no matter how you look at it.
 
Why should people not be able to choose the one they want?

You are able to choose, who told you couldn't?

Of course a vaccine needs to be approved before you can choose. If it's not available you choose what's available.

If you get shot in the leg do you wait for treatment when you get to hospital or do you get the whatever first aid is available?

Waiting for a better vaccine might cost you or someone else their life.
 
I'm yet to see any reports of healthy children without comorbidities dying from Covid.

Are you serious? Jesus H Christ.

Early on this whole saga, in March last year: Just near me in France, local high school. 16 y.o. girl, no underlying conditions. Bit of a cold Thursday. Worsened over the weekend. Doctor Monday, straight into hospital. Worsened in the evening, transferred to specialist unit. On a ventilator Tuesday afternoon, dead by Tuesday night. Put the fear of god into every parent in France. Unfortunately, just one of many.

But as always with you lot, misses the point entirely. It wouldn't matter if not a single child died, they're getting vaccinated because it's a virus that is (big word coming ...) CONTAGIOUS. They're getting vaccinated for the same reason every single kid is vaccinated against Rubella - which no child dies from.
 
Mate, TBH almost anything would be better than these very leaky vaccines.
Define anything what’s you’re solution Einstein
My experience of anti vaxer conspiracy theorists is that there lives suck so they wont a reason to feel important like there relevant then they glob onto a cause to feel like they are more relevant than the main stream 95%
They might be losers but but they hold a special secret that makes them special the rabbit hole of confirmation bias
Any deviation from that path forces them to face themselves and that must be avoided at all costs
Critical thinking would diminish themselves
 
Not sure what point you are trying to make here. Vaccinations against smallpox started in the UK in 1796. So after 150 years of vaccination there were still (according to you) "tens of millions of cases annually. Keep in mind that in the UK in 1853 the Government made smallpox vaccinations compulsory, but the incidence of the disease kept increasing and in 1872 another epidemic killed ~44,000 people, most of whom were vaccinated. The compulsory vaccination law was abolished in 1948. So out of 150 years of vaccination in the UK almost 100 years of which were compulsory what was the net effect? Not much it seems. My parents took me and my brother to the UK in 1979 for a working holiday. I was a young kid in primary school and I had to be vaccinated for smallpox while there after 100 years of compulsory vaccination against it!

Yeah, fair point....I guess it must have been just one of those amazing freak coincidences that everyone's natural immunity suddenly beefed up to eradication levels at exactly the same time as CDC began their worldwide smallpox vaccination campaign.
 
When is Novavax being made available in Australia?

Going by the results it is far superior to AZ, Pfeizer and Moderna - https://ir.novavax.com/2021-06-30-N...g-High-Levels-of-Efficacy-of-COVID-19-Vaccine

Why did the government force everyone to get the crap jabs with bad side effects when Nova doesn't seem to have much side effects at all?
I guarantee as soon as it becomes available, antivaxxers will immediately backflip and claim Novavax is also unsafe and ineffective.
 
Are we just going to ignore healthy children have died post vaccination?

I'm yet to see any reports of healthy children without comorbidities dying from Covid.
Again, what is the logic behind antivaxxers pushing this "These kids had comorbidities so their deaths don't really count" argument so hard?

It's just hurting your own position.
 
Yeah, fair point....I guess it must have been just one of those amazing freak coincidences that everyone's natural immunity suddenly beefed up to eradication levels at exactly the same time as CDC began their worldwide smallpox vaccination campaign.

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1967 global vaccination program....
 
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