MRP / Trib. MRP and Tribunal - 2024 - Rd 5 - Charlie Cameron 1 week?
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Heeney appears to be able to do whatever he wants without repercussion, remember this doozy from recent times?
"The AFL has cleared Essendon’s Brandon Zerk-Thatcher of any wrongdoing in the off-the-ball incident which cost Sydney Swans’ star Isaac Heeney a broken hand.
The gun goal kicker was caught up in a behind the play push-and-shove with the Essendon defender in the second term on Thursday night when Heeney sustained the injury.
Thats right , zerk thatcher had to be cleared by the tribunal for heeney breaking his hand while punching zerk in the face.
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Why Isn't Frampton up on rough conduct for his hit on Higgins?
a good old-fashioned charge ( which used to be reportable) if I ever saw one, zero play on the ball and far more potential than Max's to cause injury. quite staggered it hasn't even been mentioned
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a good old-fashioned charge ( which used to be reportable) if I ever saw one, zero play on the ball and far more potential than Max's to cause injury. quite staggered it hasn't even been mentioned
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Shocked Heeney didn't get cited for striking as that was pretty clear cut.
Also shocked that Hind didn't even get a fine for attempted striking when he legit threw an elbow at Warner's head.
Also shocked that Hind didn't even get a fine for attempted striking when he legit threw an elbow at Warner's head.
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What would the grading have been?
i dont get the Hind one. Clear elbow, just because he misses he's ok.
Heeney....well.....$$$ and all. sometimes you can strike the face, sometimes you can't.
Intentional, High contact, low impact = 1 week. same as Redman
You think that flicking an arm back at a player pulling at him from behind shows that he intended to hit him in the face?
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There is no clear guidelines on how the MRO grade impact ..... it just a guess and tool the MRO use for their own convenience to give certain players weeks off and others a free pass
The velocity impact of the Frampton and also the Draper hit were a lot higher than King's who glanced Macrae's noggin yet one player isn't cited, one is cited as low impact and one as medium .... both Frampton and Draper's hits (both intentional) had the potential to cause serious injury even if they were only to the body ..... in all 3 cases the players hit were fine and played the matches out without issue but only player looks like receiving a suspension (and his was graded careless and not intentional)
The MRO is a mess ...... Christian has to go
The velocity impact of the Frampton and also the Draper hit were a lot higher than King's who glanced Macrae's noggin yet one player isn't cited, one is cited as low impact and one as medium .... both Frampton and Draper's hits (both intentional) had the potential to cause serious injury even if they were only to the body ..... in all 3 cases the players hit were fine and played the matches out without issue but only player looks like receiving a suspension (and his was graded careless and not intentional)
The MRO is a mess ...... Christian has to go
Doesnt matter.
Afl rules are hit the head away from the play = intentional.
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Heeney can do whatever he wants for the rest of the season and get away with it .... the MRO's Brownlow favourite rule has now been activated
No, the AFL rules are: Intentional conduct A Player intentionally commits a Classifiable Offence if the Player engages in the conduct constituting the Reportable Offence with the intention of committing that offence. An intention is a state of mind. Intention may be formed on the spur of the moment. The issue is whether it existed at the time at which the Player engaged in the conduct.
So no, under the laws of the game, intentional doesn't apply because Heeney wasn't intentionally trying to hit Hind in the head as Redman was last week.
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They seemed to "miss" warners elbow to wrights head as well
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Redman hit his upper chest/shoulder and slid up to his face, so wasnt intending to hit him in the head, doesnt matter off ball head hit is intentional, who are we kidding heeney can do whatever he likes
Intentional wouldn't go if you can't show he was intending to punch him in the head. I'd argue that Heeney's fingers hitting him in the face was below the force required to constitute a report.
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At the tribunal for Sicily's case, the AFL lawyer tried to argue that he deserved a week because of potential for injury. When pressed what injury could have been caused, she said it had potential to bruise.
Interestingly, seems like Hind's flying elbow doesn't have the same kind of potential for injury!
Interestingly, seems like Hind's flying elbow doesn't have the same kind of potential for injury!
This is why it's so bad for the game to have lawyers involved and leading the way.
The really encourage the AFL to disappear up it's own ass with rules and conditions and inconsistent rulings.
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...You think that's him trying to hit Newcombe on the shoulder? Even if we accept that the initial contact is when the absolute bottom of the hand grazes Newcombes shoulder on the way through to hitting him, his intention wasn't to flick the top of Newcombe's shoulder. That's a much easier case for intentional than throwing a hand behind you at your chest height.
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i think his intention was to shove him in the chest, you can clearly see that in the still, 30 degree day, lots of sweat, the push goes high, simples
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