Open coaching positions

[jimbob21]

I know is only early but does it look like there will be any vacant coaching positions in the Talangatta League next year.

 

[Albert Park]

I know is only early but does it look like there will be any vacant coaching positions in the Talangatta League next year.

Not sure, but I'll have a guess in the interests of promoting discussion.

Barnawartha - possibly, but would think Hollard 1 more year
Beechworth - more than likely
Chiltern - probably not unless they want a playing coach, Dickins keen to coach somewhere.
Dederang - possibly
Kiewa - No, would think Bone again if he wants to
Mitta - yes
Rutherglen yes
Tallangatta - maybe
Thurgoona - No
Wodonga Saints - No
Yackandandah - yes

 

[jimbob21]

Thanls fo the info, very interesting.... Who are the front runners for the Mitta job?

 

[Mauler]

Any players in the league looking to step up and coach? I hear Cameron will try his luck somewhere but its being kept very quiet as to where abouts... Anyone know anything

 

[jimbob21]

I know there is a group of 5 to 8 players from (or previously from) an O&M club who are looking at getting a crew together and playing Talangatta League. The word is that Mitta is their number 1 preference.

 

[The Toecutter]

I know there is a group of 5 to 8 players from (or previously from) an O&M club who are looking at getting a crew together and playing Talangatta League. The word is that Mitta is their number 1 preference.

F**k Mitta, who wants to play for those inbreds, they should challenge themselves and turn around a club eg. Tallangatta, Wodonga Saints etc. Anyone can play for perennial premiership contender (look at all the club sl*ts who have played for Osborne of the years) and ride their coat tails to a flag, but the challenge of turning a club around and creating success is far more satisfying. But i forgot Mitta don't play their players so they'll have to look elsewhere any way

 

[no orange peeler]

F**k Mitta, who wants to play for those inbreds, they should challenge themselves and turn around a club eg. Tallangatta, Wodonga Saints etc. Anyone can play for perennial premiership contender (look at all the club sl*ts who have played for Osborne of the years) and ride their coat tails to a flag, but the challenge of turning a club around and creating success is far more satisfying. But i forgot Mitta don't play their players so they'll have to look elsewhere any way

My thoughts exactly well said

 

[Albert Park]

F**k Mitta, who wants to play for those inbreds, they should challenge themselves and turn around a club eg. Tallangatta, Wodonga Saints etc. Anyone can play for perennial premiership contender (look at all the club sl*ts who have played for Osborne of the years) and ride their coat tails to a flag, but the challenge of turning a club around and creating success is far more satisfying. But i forgot Mitta don't play their players so they'll have to look elsewhere any way

Are you suggesting that a few "downhill skiiers" might jump on board the Mitta and Osborne bandwagons just so they can win a flag ??? Be interesting to see who gets on in the next few weeks before clearances close.

 

[hotcrossbuns18]

I can understand your point of view and a lot of bloke do head to clubs like Osbourne etc. just for the glory.
But, in saying that, if ever I decide to move home (Albury/Wodonga) Mitta would be where I'd go. I love the place, the mitta river, dartmouth dam plus their pub is great. Throw in a winning culture and locals who treat their players like royalty why wouldn't you wanna finish off your career there?

Summed it up to a T................. Absolutely spot on. Mitta is a great club to be a part of. I'm just a newbie to the club but they are great for me and my family. Can't fault the club, atmosphere, surroundings etc etc etc

 

[benchwarmer1]

Summed it up to a T................. Absolutely spot on. Mitta is a great club to be a part of. I'm just a newbie to the club but they are great for me and my family. Can't fault the club, atmosphere, surroundings etc etc etc

the supporters had a bit to say each break (far from positive) against dogs and they were in front most of the day except final 5-10 mins! although cant judge off only one game...you boys would know best! gotta love the faithful supporters

 

[Run Straight]

C'mon boys, supposed to be talking about open coaching positions on here, not just Mitta. Anyone got any opinions as to who will or won't keep there job. I heard Beechworth have already re-appointed their coach for 2008 !

 

[jimbob21]

What about Talangatta? Who is coaching them and are they doing a good job?

 

[Albert Park]

What about Talangatta? Who is coaching them and are they doing a good job?

Darren Mathey is coaching Tallangatta and said in the paper today that "there has been a lot of improvement on last year". Unfortunately there are 2 stats that would dispute that comment. Ladder position and number of wins - both worse than last year. I'm not a Tallangatta person so can only go on the cold hard facts. Maybe someone in the know can fill us in, coz from the outside it would seem he's not going too well and the job may be up for grabs at season's end. Finding someone of quality to coach a cellar-dweller though, is not an easy task.

 

[kickittome]

Darren Mathey is coaching Tallangatta and said in the paper today that "there has been a lot of improvement on last year". Unfortunately there are 2 stats that would dispute that comment. Ladder position and number of wins - both worse than last year. I'm not a Tallangatta person so can only go on the cold hard facts. Maybe someone in the know can fill us in, coz from the outside it would seem he's not going too well and the job may be up for grabs at season's end. Finding someone of quality to coach a cellar-dweller though, is not an easy task.

Black & white facts are hard to dismiss AP, but the club are very happy with him. They have been much closer in games than last year when blown away most games, won 4 but against lesser teams than this year when everyone has improved. As he said in paper, 3 guys over 30 and rest 21 or under is tough - you need those 24 to 28 ylds to make your team better. The depth at club is much better than last year as indicated by the 2's going ok, best depth since Bullioh reformed which has hurt Tallangatta big time - big struggle ahead for the hoppers to recruit and get proud club back up there - maybe merge with Bullioh again lol

 

[switch the play]

Ryan Richardson was recruited to KSC as a replacement for Bone in 2008 as i believe.There has also been strong links with Dickins to Thurgoona for a couple of years since his arrival at Chiltern that he would spend 2 years there and then return to Thurgoona (where he lives) to coach in 2008.That started 2 years ago and grew legs last year;however thurgoona's improvement this year would surely allow the current coach first opportunity to lead again next year wouldnt you think?Or would they look at a higher profile type coach?My belief would be to stick to what is obviously working for them.Maybe the Thurgoona of old may have opted for the former but they have got things right in the last couple of years so i'm sure they will make the right descision

 

[The Toecutter]

There has also been strong links with Dickins to Thurgoona for a couple of years since his arrival at Chiltern that he would spend 2 years there and then return to Thurgoona (where he lives) to coach in 2008.That started 2 years ago and grew legs last year;however thurgoona's improvement this year would surely allow the current coach first opportunity to lead again next year wouldnt you think?Or would they look at a higher profile type coach?My belief would be to stick to what is obviously working for them.Maybe the Thurgoona of old may have opted for the former but they have got things right in the last couple of years so i'm sure they will make the right descision

Dicko is a nice bloke and a fair player, but i have doubts whether he is coaching material. Anyone who knows him personally knows that he's closer to Zoolander than Ron Barassi when it comes to the finer points of coaching

 

[Gurnerd Fanning]

Darren Mathey is coaching Tallangatta and said in the paper today that "there has been a lot of improvement on last year". Unfortunately there are 2 stats that would dispute that comment. Ladder position and number of wins - both worse than last year. I'm not a Tallangatta person so can only go on the cold hard facts. Maybe someone in the know can fill us in, coz from the outside it would seem he's not going too well and the job may be up for grabs at season's end. Finding someone of quality to coach a cellar-dweller though, is not an easy task.

If memory serves correctly Darren Mathey coached Tallangatta a few years back and never got them to a premiership. Why would a club like Tallangatta that has been starved of success for years now get him back for a second crack at it? You have to ask the question what the board is like at tallangatta and what shape the club is in? I'm not throwing stones but what are other people thoughts.

 

[More Than a Game]

Dicko is a nice bloke and a fair player, but i have doubts whether he is coaching material. Anyone who knows him personally knows that he's closer to Zoolander than Ron Barassi when it comes to the finer points of coaching

he is a top bloke, and i agree with you TT. the only thing that may sway him to go there is if they install a Mens Salon near Kinross Oval.

If memory serves correctly Darren Mathey coached Tallangatta a few years back and never got them to a premiership. Why would a club like Tallangatta that has been starved of success for years now get him back for a second crack at it? You have to ask the question what the board is like at tallangatta and what shape the club is in? I'm not throwing stones but what are other people thoughts.

not throwing stones at all GF, that statement was mentioned around the traps when he was appointed. Maybe this year was a chance for the Hoppers to get him back as a non-playing coach and save a bit of dough(non-playing coaches do get considerably less don't they?) my guess is that they will load up in the off season (if they haven't started the process by now, they should get cracking. coupled with the money they would have wasted on Kinross this year, they should have a bit.

 

[kickittome]

he is a top bloke, and i agree with you TT. the only thing that may sway him to go there is if they install a Mens Salon near Kinross Oval.



not throwing stones at all GF, that statement was mentioned around the traps when he was appointed. Maybe this year was a chance for the Hoppers to get him back as a non-playing coach and save a bit of dough(non-playing coaches do get considerably less don't they?) my guess is that they will load up in the off season (if they haven't started the process by now, they should get cracking. coupled with the money they would have wasted on Kinross this year, they should have a bit.

Well MTAG Tallangatta havent wasted money on Kinross when he only played 4 games before his knee injury & he gets considerbly less than most overpaid underperfomers in the league. Mathey got the hoppers to a GF in 2002 with a team that wasnt as good as the Barny's & Mitta's but he brought them together to play as a team. Yes they should be loading up & going now & hopefully they are for sake of the comp as a team with a town of a 1000 odd people behind it should be doing much better, but has someone has said, when the juniors go to Bullioh for easy back yard footy & not prepared to try a higher comp, it has hurt the hoppers big time.

 

[Albert Park]

Even if Dickins does want to coach, the way the Bulldogs are going I would be very surprised if they were looking for a new coach at the end of the year. Surely not even the Dogs would get rid of a bloke who is mid 20's & one of the better players in the comp. Anyone know more about Wightman ? I only know he came from Albury.

 

[DOGGIE DEFENDER]

Even if Dickins does want to coach, the way the Bulldogs are going I would be very surprised if they were looking for a new coach at the end of the year. Surely not even the Dogs would get rid of a bloke who is mid 20's & one of the better players in the comp. Anyone know more about Wightman ? I only know he came from Albury.

Lets set a couple of things straight.(I believe)
1. Dickins WILL NOT coach Chiltern or Thurgoona.
2. Thurgoona WILL NOT be looking for a new coach in '08 or '09
3. Wightman started as a tallanted junior for Rams(u/18's) TAC, and payed senior footy for Queenbeyan where as a 17yo played in and won a grand final.
Recruited to Albury and continued 2 or 3 very solid seasons before turning his sights on lifting the Doggies from 2006 after winning the B&F that year.

 

[spottydog]

Even if Dickins does want to coach, the way the Bulldogs are going I would be very surprised if they were looking for a new coach at the end of the year. Surely not even the Dogs would get rid of a bloke who is mid 20's & one of the better players in the comp. Anyone know more about Wightman ? I only know he came from Albury.

worst coach ever!!!!!!! lol

 

[Gurnerd Fanning]

Well MTAG Tallangatta havent wasted money on Kinross when he only played 4 games before his knee injury & he gets considerbly less than most overpaid underperfomers in the league. Mathey got the hoppers to a GF in 2002 with a team that wasnt as good as the Barny's & Mitta's but he brought them together to play as a team. Yes they should be loading up & going now & hopefully they are for sake of the comp as a team with a town of a 1000 odd people behind it should be doing much better, but has someone has said, when the juniors go to Bullioh for easy back yard footy & not prepared to try a higher comp, it has hurt the hoppers big time.

It would seem from the outside that Tallangatta are stuggling more than they let on. Surely a club that has struggled for success for years now aren't going going places if they could only get a past coach, his brothers and have recruited the majority of their players from the upper murray. Leigh Clarke coached a couple of years back I think and Tallangatta should have had an idea what he would be like. (very lazy) As for Mathey, I can't really see him being able to recruit the quality players needed to be a premiership contender given that he was only a mediocre players for Wodonga 2's.
It's probably time for the offiicals at Tallangatta to get of their arses and try something to get the club of the ground. A higher profile coach ie. Ross Hillary for Yack or even Mr Copely, would have to be on the cards.
Insanity is trying the same thing and expecting a different result.

 

[jimbob21]

Tell us what you really think Gurnard!
I do agree though.
The hard thing is that good coaches dont just grow on trees. Any suggestions?
I'd like to throw Brent Lillis in the mix, still a good player and has very good recruiting power. Any thoughts?

 

[Gurnerd Fanning]

Tell us what you really think Gurnard!
I do agree though.
The hard thing is that good coaches dont just grow on trees. Any suggestions?
I'd like to throw Brent Lillis in the mix, still a good player and has very good recruiting power. Any thoughts?

JB21 I hope I don't sound to harsh on the hoppers as that wasn't my intension.
I am just putting some ideas up for discussion and it's always good to hear that i'm not alone. I'm not exactly sure who Brent Lillis is, although I do recall seeing his name mentioned regulary in the O and M. but I do think that a club struggling needs to go for a coach capable of recruiting quality players not just a heap of players just to keep numbers up.
Who did Lillis play for when he was in the O and M?