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PTs?

Why pay when you can use youtube and get world class instruction and motivation from experts like Richie...I always start the day with a bit of Simmons magic.

 
My gym membership gives you one session a month with a PT. I find that quite useful. We set goals, assess progress, tweak things that aren't working. If I'm having issues with weight, or muscle soreness, or I want to get fit for skiing she will rejig my program. I have been seeing her for about 18 months and it's a good arrangement that will probably go on indefinitely.

I would find working with a PT every week pretty unpleasant and off-putting but I like having someone who works with me on my goals long term. It lets me work at my own pace, but also helps keep me focused and accountable.

It's also nice to have an expert there to bounce stuff off. I am pretty clueless about gym machines and exercise programs.
 
Being a tertiary qualified ex phys myself (although not currently practising), from what Ive seen its alarming how substandard the services some personal trainers provide out there. A lot of them have no idea what they are doing. They run shambolic schedules, and develop poor programs that dont meet the requirements of their clients. It just seems like a fashionable career.

Take my missus and a few of her pals who worked with a PT (female) cos they were wanting to shed a few kilos. Pretty typical. In a typical 60 minute session they did static stretching, girly push-ups, bridges, core-work and thorugh medicine balls around, then medidiated for a cool down. Not really ideal for losing subcutaneous fat.

I guess this is the same of any profession. Im sure there are some brilliant PT trainers out there. I just havent come across any yet. A Cert IV Fitness actually covers more practical components of basic exercise conditioning than an undergraduate sports science degree does. It seems that the application of this knowledge isn't as great.
 

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As has basically been implied in here thus far, it's important to find someone who lives and breathes what they're trying to preach. There's too many idiots out there who thought it'd be easy to gain employment as a PT by getting the course done (which is not hard or expensive to do these days).

I've seen trainers on and off for years, but the most recent one is an Ironman competitor, studies the shit out of what he does and is a very good trainer, worth every penny. He focuses on keeping you accountable, sometimes would text me asking about what sort of foods I'm eating when I'm not training etc and actually shows a genuine interest in progress or areas that need more of a focus. The result is where I used to want to slack off and make excuses to get out of a PT session, I haven't missed a single one with him since January and have lost about 15kgs.

PT's can be questionable, but so can people's willingness to succeed at this and some people need to be pushed. That sort of person matched with a genuinely good PT will work very well in the long run.
 
The glut of them currently around is the biggest issue, years ago it used to be security guards, now all those dicks have moved on and become PT's. One of those professions that attract individuals who just like to make an easy dollar.
 
lemon chicken said:
The glut of them currently around is the biggest issue, years ago it used to be security guards, now all those dicks have moved on and become PT's. One of those professions that attract individuals who just like to make an easy dollar.
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could be it rite thur. ive had 3 trainers in my time. all have moved onto something more stable and meaningful
 
Miqar_Baqfhied said:
Being a tertiary qualified ex phys myself (although not currently practising), from what Ive seen its alarming how substandard the services some personal trainers provide out there. A lot of them have no idea what they are doing. They run shambolic schedules, and develop poor programs that dont meet the requirements of their clients. It just seems like a fashionable career.

Take my missus and a few of her pals who worked with a PT (female) cos they were wanting to shed a few kilos. Pretty typical. In a typical 60 minute session they did static stretching, girly push-ups, bridges, core-work and thorugh medicine balls around, then medidiated for a cool down. Not really ideal for losing subcutaneous fat.

I guess this is the same of any profession. Im sure there are some brilliant PT trainers out there. I just havent come across any yet. A Cert IV Fitness actually covers more practical components of basic exercise conditioning than an undergraduate sports science degree does. It seems that the application of this knowledge isn't as great.
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Same with me, one thing that needs to be mentioned though is that a sport science degree doesn't instantly make a better PT than a cert IV. I know a few people from my graduating year working as a PT that still don't know their arse from their elbow.
 
BABYBOMBERS2007 said:
A PT is not allowed to give you a set diet, so you may need to see a professional in that department. The PT can say what things can be good and bad to eat (if they know), however they are legally not allowed to give you a set diet unless they are qualified.
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They can, if the client is ignorant enough to listen. This is the problem with 99% of the industry, they don't stay within the scope of their practice. Instead of referring on when appropriate its much easier for PT's to talk BS.
Worked as a PT for 7 years. The amount of times I've seen and heard cringeworthy advice is scary
 
Personal trainers are the greatest scam of the 21st century.
Join a gym and they will give you a program, do that yourself. All a personal trainer does is tell you to do the same thing, but charge you $50 an hour
 
They do a 12 week course to tell you how you should be training its pretty funny

They are the new Real Estate agents of this decade everybody is a PT because its piss easy to get into and they think there top shit when they get in just like Real estate agents
 

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ABitWoofy said:
They can, if the client is ignorant enough to listen. This is the problem with 99% of the industry, they don't stay within the scope of their practice. Instead of referring on when appropriate its much easier for PT's to talk BS.
Worked as a PT for 7 years. The amount of times I've seen and heard cringeworthy advice is scary
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U NO NOTHING ABOUT TRAINING

/bigfooty
 
ABitWoofy said:
They can, if the client is ignorant enough to listen. This is the problem with 99% of the industry, they don't stay within the scope of their practice. Instead of referring on when appropriate its much easier for PT's to talk BS.
Worked as a PT for 7 years. The amount of times I've seen and heard cringeworthy advice is scary
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U NO NOTHING ABOUT TRAINING

/bigfooty
 
Jab said:
He's taking the piss out of the mentality of some of the posters on BigFooty, not you ;) He's implying that even with your qualifications and experience, there would be keyboard warriors that would challenge you on it :)

peternorth is alright, you grow to love him :D
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spot on. ABitWoofy as Jab said taking the piss out of people on bf and in society in general.

but i respect what people say about trainers knowing everything/nothing. we're all different and some need trainers to achieve their goals, others dont, and some need temporary assistance.

respect for anyone who exercises i say!
 
They are alright for someone who has never stepped foot in a gym, but otherwise meh.

For example I started at gym to gain muscle, as due to a medical condition I was 53kgs at 6'3. After the initial things I was showed I eventually went to doing my own thing and not bother seeing the trainer every so often and I was fine. I have gained 32kgs (85kgs now, aiming for 90) since then without the help of any trainers, but rather just learning more about health, fitness and lifting in my own time. But some of them clearly have no passion, one trainer talks about how people are getting their form/technique wrong when watching them in the gym but never bothers to go and show them the correct way.
 

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Hey all.

I'm in the market for a good personal trainer to help me put on lean, defined muscle. I'm in Glen Iris so something within coo-ee is preferable. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
Vast majority of people who have been going to the gym frequently for a couple of years will have just as much knowledge and probably a better understanding of technique than most of the PT's you'll find in commercial gyms. If your just sticking to the simple lifts then you'll be able to figure it out by watching videos and the like without the need to invest in a PT.
 
Load of shit.

Why?

Because what do you do when you finish with them?

The hardest thing is keeping what you have lost off...3 -6-12 months later.

Takes self motivation to keep up the exercise and watching what you eat.

I lost 20kgs over three years...back to around 16kgs now but that seems to be my manageable weight...i can eat wat i like as long as I exercise.

I ride a bike....30kms a day
 
BABYBOMBERS2007 said:
A PT is not allowed to give you a set diet, so you may need to see a professional in that department. The PT can say what things can be good and bad to eat (if they know), however they are legally not allowed to give you a set diet unless they are qualified.
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so much this.

I'm qualified as a PT and have nutrition qualifications. I was the only trainer at my old gym who has the qualification. Yet every trainer would offer meal plans. Was a load of shit. It's shit like that, that made me no longer want to work in the industry.

Be careful of trainers. 99% have no ****in clue what they're talking about. They get a level 1 crossfit cert, and start calling themselves a powerlifting coach. They decide that being trained in stretching means they are qualified in massage and trigger points. Look at their qualifications before taking one on.
 
Drama said:
Vast majority of people who have been going to the gym frequently for a couple of years will have just as much knowledge and probably a better understanding of technique than most of the PT's you'll find in commercial gyms. If your just sticking to the simple lifts then you'll be able to figure it out by watching videos and the like without the need to invest in a PT.
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Fair enough. But I'm after the kind of workout that you cannot do on your own. I was doing weights for nine months. Without being silly, I was really pushing myself. Focused on technique and breathing. Strict diet. Got pretty much nowhere in nine goddamn months.

A few times the guy that owned the gym that had done competitive body building would jump in with me and spot me a few times. He'd push me beyond what I was capable of doing myself. A few months back he helped me work out my triceps - they fair dinkum felt like a bomb had hit them (in a good way).

This is the kind of work out I want. If I could do it on my own, I would. I no longer live in the same area so am unable to hit him up for pt sessions.
 

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