Pick Your Team

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Well it seems we have a lot of people suggesting how the team should be lining up this season so I thought what better than starting up the Pick Your Team thread. Instead of the constant revolving threads that discuss the same issues over and over just chuck up the team you would like to see us run out with come Round 1 and your reasons for players being in certain positions. Then we can see once and for all where people stand with how the club is shaping up.

My Thoughts:

B: Newman Thursfield McGuane
HB: Raines Polak JB
C: Tambling Deleido Howat
HF: Pettifer Richo PB
F: Brown Schulz Meyer
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
I: Johnson Polo Pattison Krakouer

After Wallace's Be Paitient article yesterday I thought about it and decided the kids are the way to go. Throw Thursty, McGuane, Tambling, Howat, Polo, Deledio Meyer, Schulz & Foley in the deep end so to speak and tell them they have 6 weeks to cement that spot for the year. If they fail then they get dropped not after 1 poor effort but give them a chance to find their spot and make it theirs. People say Tambling is too light to cut it in the middle and that may be the case but he sure would be worth putting on a wing and telling him that he has the freedom to run and kick goals.

With Polak, Thursty, McGuane, JB, Raines & Newman down back we can throw PB up forward and use him as link man out of defence and another tallish type to take some heat of Richo across HF. WIth him and Petts either side of Richo it goves us 3 lead up types and thus more options for the backline/mids when they are coming out of defence. I believe that Petts took 15 marks in the game on Saturday which would indicate he is still working hard around the ground and not just sitting on the flank waiting for an easy kick.

Down in the square you have Schulz who had his best game against the Lions when he played as a leading FF with the 50 as his domain. Give it back to him, accurate kick, good mark and we know that if it is put up he can fly for a big pack mark. By having Browny next to him close to goals I am sure it would make his opponents butt that little bit tighter knowing if he is 1-1 with Brown near goals that he is in trouble.

Back to the defence Thursty looks to have recovered well from his knne reco and should be given first crack at Fev. It is not like Fev is a gorilla who is going to shove Thursty around. Thursty showed he can match it with the mobile forwards the game he got hurt when he matched Riewoldt 1-1. Show some confidence in the kid and get him straight back on the horse so to speak. McGuane is a big guy but raw and as such give him the job on the oppositions third tall against the Blues that is likely to be Josh Kennedy good match up as both are young and still learning. JB still plays the quarterback role setting up the play and sweeping to get to balls that hit the ground along with Raines it gives us 2 attacking options from HB and Raines is still going to make sure his man does not get the ball as well. Newman can play on the dangerous small forwards like Milne, Davey, Davis.

Of the side I selected I am missing KK who although some think it was srong to get him will be valuable for us this year if he gets back to 05 form where he kicked 50+ goals. Also if Simmo does not come up I would throw in Knobel first up swapping with Patto.

 

[Haggard H]

My Thoughts:

B: Newman Thursfield McGuane
HB: Raines Polak JB
C: Tambling Deleido Howat
HF: Pettifer Richo PB
F: Brown Schulz Meyer
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
I: Johnson Polo Pattison Krakouer



B: Newman Thursfield PB
HB: Raines Polak JB
C: Tambling Deledio Polo
HF: Pettifer Richo Brown
F: Kingsley Schultz Howat
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
Int: Johnson Pattison Meyer JON/Hughes

 

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My Thoughts:

B: Newman Thursfield McGuane
HB: Raines Polak JB
C: Tambling Deleido Howat
HF: Pettifer Richo PB
F: Brown Schulz Meyer
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
I: Johnson Polo Pattison Krakouer



B: Newman Thursfield PB
HB: Raines Polak JB
C: Tambling Deledio Polo
HF: Pettifer Richo Brown
F: Kingsley Schultz Howat
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
Int: Johnson Pattison Meyer JON/Hughes

I know KK is injured and I believe JON is as well.

 

[PLSC]

Well it seems we have a lot of people suggesting how the team should be lining up this season so I thought what better than starting up the Pick Your Team thread. Instead of the constant revolving threads that discuss the same issues over and over just chuck up the team you would like to see us run out with come Round 1 and your reasons for players being in certain positions. Then we can see once and for all where people stand with how the club is shaping up.

My Thoughts:

B: Newman Thursfield McGuane
HB: Raines Polak JB
C: Tambling Deleido Howat
HF: Pettifer Richo PB
F: Brown Schulz Meyer
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
I: Johnson Polo Pattison Krakouer

After Wallace's Be Paitient article yesterday I thought about it and decided the kids are the way to go. Throw Thursty, McGuane, Tambling, Howat, Polo, Deledio Meyer, Schulz & Foley in the deep end so to speak and tell them they have 6 weeks to cement that spot for the year. If they fail then they get dropped not after 1 poor effort but give them a chance to find their spot and make it theirs. People say Tambling is too light to cut it in the middle and that may be the case but he sure would be worth putting on a wing and telling him that he has the freedom to run and kick goals.

With Polak, Thursty, McGuane, JB, Raines & Newman down back we can throw PB up forward and use him as link man out of defence and another tallish type to take some heat of Richo across HF. WIth him and Petts either side of Richo it goves us 3 lead up types and thus more options for the backline/mids when they are coming out of defence. I believe that Petts took 15 marks in the game on Saturday which would indicate he is still working hard around the ground and not just sitting on the flank waiting for an easy kick.

Down in the square you have Schulz who had his best game against the Lions when he played as a leading FF with the 50 as his domain. Give it back to him, accurate kick, good mark and we know that if it is put up he can fly for a big pack mark. By having Browny next to him close to goals I am sure it would make his opponents butt that little bit tighter knowing if he is 1-1 with Brown near goals that he is in trouble.

Back to the defence Thursty looks to have recovered well from his knne reco and should be given first crack at Fev. It is not like Fev is a gorilla who is going to shove Thursty around. Thursty showed he can match it with the mobile forwards the game he got hurt when he matched Riewoldt 1-1. Show some confidence in the kid and get him straight back on the horse so to speak. McGuane is a big guy but raw and as such give him the job on the oppositions third tall against the Blues that is likely to be Josh Kennedy good match up as both are young and still learning. JB still plays the quarterback role setting up the play and sweeping to get to balls that hit the ground along with Raines it gives us 2 attacking options from HB and Raines is still going to make sure his man does not get the ball as well. Newman can play on the dangerous small forwards like Milne, Davey, Davis.

Of the side I selected I am missing KK who although some think it was srong to get him will be valuable for us this year if he gets back to 05 form where he kicked 50+ goals. Also if Simmo does not come up I would throw in Knobel first up swapping with Patto.

yeh thats look half decent

out - kraPOOR
in - white

 

[tigerT]

B. Newman Gaspar Thursfield
HB. Bowden Polak Raines
C. Deledio Johnson Howat
HF. Pettifer Schulz Polo
F. N.Brown Richo P.Bowden
Ruck. Simmo Tuck Foley

Int: White, Pattison, Tambling, KK/Krak

Deledio, Johnson, Howat, Polo, Tuck, Foley and Tambling to rotate through the midfield with the odd cameo from N Brown.

Polo deserves a start over Tambling at this stage, iv got him listed at HF but hes an extra midfielder.
P.Bowden is a spare parts man, can offer a bit up forward imo and bc of his versatility id have him in
White gives us insurance as a running backman or winger. Real goer and fit!
Patto to cameo as backup to simmo and up forward for mismatches.
5 of the back 6 i think most of us agree on, Id still go with gas over McGuane until i see more of McGuane at FB with the burgers.

 

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yeh thats look half decent

out - kraPOOR
in - white

I left Krakouer in on the same basis as the others, he has 6 weeks to perform or out you go. I don't want a game where he kicks 5 from 7 kicks what I want of they want him part of the midfield rotations is 15+ possies with 1-2 goals if he truly going to be servicable for us. He has a bit of a poor rep and I think that is because of the amount of ball he gets but he is one guy who will put pressure on up forward like Davey does for the Dees and as such still has a bit of value that way, we all know how easy the ball comes out of our F50. But as I said to be truly servicable he need to step up to a 15-18 possies HFF/Wing with about 25-35 goals for the year.

 

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B. Newman Gaspar Thursfield
HB. Bowden Polak Raines
C. Deledio Johnson Howat
HF. Pettifer Schulz Polo
F. N.Brown Richo P.Bowden
Ruck. Simmo Tuck Foley

Int: White, Pattison, Tambling, KK/Krak

Deledio, Johnson, Howat, Polo, Tuck, Foley and Tambling to rotate through the midfield with the odd cameo from N Brown.

Polo deserves a start over Tambling at this stage, iv got him listed at HF but hes an extra midfielder.
P.Bowden is a spare parts man, can offer a bit up forward imo and bc of his versatility id have him in
White gives us insurance as a running backman or winger. Real goer and fit!
Patto to cameo as backup to simmo and up forward for mismatches.
5 of the back 6 i think most of us agree on, Id still go with gas over McGuane until i see more of McGuane at FB with the burgers.

I would still leave Tambling on the ground he had as many shots as Franklin did last year just poorer conversion and as such would be a good option as a goal kicking wingman. I wiould not put PB in the FP as he is wasted there. Play him as a HF/HB/Wing and get the value out of him there. Much like his brother has good decision making and picks the right option more often than not.

Also I just think Schulz's best spot will be FF. He is a one grab mark our most accurate kick at goal and would only really need 8-10 possies to have 3-5 goals at FF over the year that is between 60-100 goals. Richo is still dangerous up the ground and you can still rotate him through FF with Schulz as well to give him a breather. Wallace seemed to indicate a few weeks back he still wanted Richo out at CHF which to me indicates he wants Schulz at FF, part of the reason I believe Polak played CHF last weekend and Schulz sat in the square.

 

[tigerT]

I would still leave Tambling on the ground he had as many shots as Franklin did last year just poorer conversion and as such would be a good option as a goal kicking wingman. I wiould not put PB in the FP as he is wasted there. Play him as a HF/HB/Wing and get the value out of him there. Much like his brother has good decision making and picks the right option more often than not.

Also I just think Schulz's best spot will be FF. He is a one grab mark our most accurate kick at goal and would only really need 8-10 possies to have 3-5 goals at FF over the year that is between 60-100 goals. Richo is still dangerous up the ground and you can still rotate him through FF with Schulz as well to give him a breather. Wallace seemed to indicate a few weeks back he still wanted Richo out at CHF which to me indicates he wants Schulz at FF, part of the reason I believe Polak played CHF last weekend and Schulz sat in the square.

I should have explained myself better

Polo drifts into the midfield as a permanent midfielder, Pettifer and P.Bowden play as hitup half fowards opening up the forward line for Richo, schulz and Brown to do their stuff. I agree schulz's best position is FF but with pettifer and P.Bowden playing as hitup HF's he wont need to roam and can stay in the 50, his marking running back with the flight is a feature. Also as good an athlete as richo is id rather he didnt stretch those hammies out too much at this stage of his career.

Tambling I agre has a natural eye for goal, he seems to put himself into goal scoring positions with consumate ease when playing on a wing but I just couldnt find a place for him in my starting 18. Hes good enough to force himself in though

 

[Tigerbob]

B: Raines Gaspar Thursfield
HB: JBowden Polak Newman
C: Deledio Polo PBowden
HF: Tambling Pattison Pettifer
F: Brown Schultz Richardson
R: Simmonds Foley Johnson
INT: Tuck Howat Meyer Oakleigh-Nicholls.

This is what in my opinion is our best team.

Backline: Gaspar, Polak and Thursfield are the talls that will hold the backline together, and although I have neamed Gas at Full Back, Thursfield should get the number one forward. With Raines, Newman and Joel the run out of the backline should be one of the competitions finest.

Midfield: Deledio, Patrick, Polo, Foley and Johnson with Simmonds as the ruckman is solid, we have a clearance king in Foley, leadership in Johnson, and bigger bodies with run with Polo, Deledio and Patrick. Tuck, Howat, Meyer and JON off the bench make this a fast and exciting midfield.

Forward: If ever we were going to see the talent of Pattison it's now. The guy looked sensational all pre season, has a huge motor on him and great hands, and at 198cm and 98kg is big enough to now hold that position. His best quality is to present all day long and thats what our game plan will need from CHF. With the new hands in the back rule we should take advantage of it, put Richo deep in the forward line and if we cant spot up a Schultz on the lead then bomb long to the best contested marker in the competition, the defenders biggest nightmare. Just on Schultz, if he stays injury free a 60 goal season is not beyond him. With Pettifer, Nathan Brown and Tambling as the creative smalls, thats a very strong forward line that will be matchup nightmares for every team, also Meyer can come and spark some magic also.

I think that team is a very strong one, not going to win us a premiership but will be thereabouts for a finals spot if injuries dont occur. Thats the big if, cause our brightest kids aren't ready yet to give us the depth we require. If that side stays on the park we will be a finals team, I have no doubt.

Big Season:

Pattison, Schultz, Thursfield and Tambling I expect to improve the most and thats whats gonna give us a better season than last and of course Nathan G Brown is back and looking fit, one of the best in the competition will add to us no doubt.

 

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B: Raines Gaspar Thursfield
HB: JBowden Polak Newman
C: Deledio Polo PBowden
HF: Tambling Pattison Pettifer
F: Brown Schultz Richardson
R: Simmonds Foley Johnson
INT: Tuck Howat Meyer Oakleigh-Nicholls.

This is what in my opinion is our best team.

Backline: Gaspar, Polak and Thursfield are the talls that will hold the backline together, and although I have neamed Gas at Full Back, Thursfield should get the number one forward. With Raines, Newman and Joel the run out of the backline should be one of the competitions finest.

Midfield: Deledio, Patrick, Polo, Foley and Johnson with Simmonds as the ruckman is solid, we have a clearance king in Foley, leadership in Johnson, and bigger bodies with run with Polo, Deledio and Patrick. Tuck, Howat, Meyer and JON off the bench make this a fast and exciting midfield.

Forward: If ever we were going to see the talent of Pattison it's now. The guy looked sensational all pre season, has a huge motor on him and great hands, and at 198cm and 98kg is big enough to now hold that position. His best quality is to present all day long and thats what our game plan will need from CHF. With the new hands in the back rule we should take advantage of it, put Richo deep in the forward line and if we cant spot up a Schultz on the lead then bomb long to the best contested marker in the competition, the defenders biggest nightmare. Just on Schultz, if he stays injury free a 60 goal season is not beyond him. With Pettifer, Nathan Brown and Tambling as the creative smalls, thats a very strong forward line that will be matchup nightmares for every team, also Meyer can come and spark some magic also.

I think that team is a very strong one, not going to win us a premiership but will be thereabouts for a finals spot if injuries dont occur. Thats the big if, cause our brightest kids aren't ready yet to give us the depth we require. If that side stays on the park we will be a finals team, I have no doubt.

Big Season:

Pattison, Schultz, Thursfield and Tambling I expect to improve the most and thats whats gonna give us a better season than last and of course Nathan G Brown is back and looking fit, one of the best in the competition will add to us no doubt.

Good post well thought out reasons for your choices and hard to really argue with.

 

[Brooksy88]

yeh thats look half decent

out - kraPOOR
in - white

the whole krapoor thing is really getting old. we get the fact you dont rate him a single bit but enoughs enough, its not even funny. i will be the first to let you know when he performs this season.

 

[PLSC]

I left Krakouer in on the same basis as the others, he has 6 weeks to perform or out you go. I don't want a game where he kicks 5 from 7 kicks what I want of they want him part of the midfield rotations is 15+ possies with 1-2 goals if he truly going to be servicable for us. He has a bit of a poor rep and I think that is because of the amount of ball he gets but he is one guy who will put pressure on up forward like Davey does for the Dees and as such still has a bit of value that way, we all know how easy the ball comes out of our F50. But as I said to be truly servicable he need to step up to a 15-18 possies HFF/Wing with about 25-35 goals for the year.

maybe if he got his hands on it and kicked some goals he wouldnt be chasing backsides

krak in the midfield is laughable we dont need another kick and hope ala foley and tuck, id like to see an inside midfielder at richmond who can actually hit a target also

 

[banzai]

B: Newman Thursfield McGuane
HB: Raines Polak JB
C: Tambling Deleido Howat
HF: Pettifer Richo PB
F: Brown Schulz Meyer
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
I: Johnson Polo Pattison Krakouer

Hard to argue with that team, but can be sure Tiv will get a game Possibly at Meyers expense.

 

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maybe if he got his hands on it and kicked some goals he wouldnt be chasing backsides

krak in the midfield is laughable we dont need another kick and hope ala foley and tuck, id like to see an inside midfielder at richmond who can actually hit a target also

But the point is he wont get it every time but he will put pressure on that others don't so he has a purpose there. But I would like to see him become a regular 15 possies player that slot through 1-2 goals, by doing that he helps the team more than a guy who kicks 3-5 once/twice a season and then struggles for the next 10 weeks. If not then thanks for your time and on yer bike son come October.

 

[RichosGuns]

My Team:

FB: C Newman W Thurstfield P Bowden
HB: J Bowden G Polak A Raines
C: C Howatt K Johnson B Deledio
HF: N Brown M Richardson K Pettifer
FF: A Krakouer J Schulz K Kingsley

R: T Simmonds S Tuck N Foley

Int. R Tambling A Pattison D Polo M White

EMG: Tivendale, Gasper, kid

My Prediction for Wallaces team (Bold= The massive things wrong with it):

FB: A Raines J Bowden D Gasper
HB: C Newman G Polak P Bowden
C: B Deledio K Johnson G Tivendale
HF: K Pettifer M Richardson R Tambling
FF: N Brown K Kinglsey J Schultz

R: T Simmonds S Tuck N Foley

Int: A Pattison K Moore W Thurstfield D Polo

*If Gasper gets a game, he MUST play on the big Fullfoward, no point using him to shut down players like Robertson while Bowden takes Nietz, gets a bag kicked on him AND is forced to play non-rebounding football which he is best suited to

 

[PLSC]

the whole krapoor thing is really getting old. we get the fact you dont rate him a single bit but enoughs enough, its not even funny. i will be the first to let you know when he performs this season.

im sure big boy krak doesnt need you protecting him

you can tell me all about it when he plays well and ill tell you about it when he is balls

sounds fun

 

[santa claws]

the team i think wallace and co will go with.
FB. thursfield. subpar. newman.
HB. raines. hall. j bowden.
C tivenfail. tuck. tambling.
HF. brown. polak. pettrified.
F. kantkicksley. richardson. notwortha kraker.
FOLL simmonds. deledio. foley.
INT. johnson. knobel. p bowden. polo.
if anyone thinks wallace wont back in the senior failures early in the season they are kidding themselves.

 

[polakthetiger]

My Thoughts:

B: Newman Thursfield McGuane
HB: Raines Polak JB
C: Tambling Deleido Howat
HF: Pettifer Richo PB
F: Brown Schulz Meyer
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
I: Johnson Polo Pattison Krakouer



B: Newman Thursfield PB
HB: Raines Polak JB
C: Tambling Deledio Polo
HF: Pettifer Richo Brown
F: Kingsley Schultz Howat
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
Int: Johnson Pattison Meyer JON/Hughes

I am wondering the logic both of you have with not starting the captain on the ground?

I haven't played for quite a few years. Is it considered acceptable for the captain to call the toss, point to the pavillion end, and walk to the bench??

 

[RECORDS!]

Hard to argue with that team, but can be sure Tiv will get a game Possibly at Meyers expense.

And so he bloody well should. Meyer has done nothing at all to justify being played other than being picked number 12 in the draft. His head is in SA and I just hope he pulls his finger out this year so he has some currency when he wants to leave us and go home. Tiv was Richmonds best player against Geelong, why wouldn't he start the season? Tiv is very much a confidence player, but nobody at that club trains, prepares themselves better or hurts as much with a loss than Tiv. Get your heads out of sand. Maybe we are hoping that Meyer will be a star so we can feel better about the Ottens deal. I can't work it out.

 

[Stafford678]

B: Thursfield, Gaspar, Newman
HB: Joel Bowden, Polak, Raines
C: Polo, Tuck, Deledio
HF: Tambling, Schulz, Pettifer
F: Brown, Richardson, P.Bowden
R: Simmonds, Johnson, Foley
Int: Howatt, Pattison, Tivendale, Hyde

Emerg: Hughes, Krakouer, Meyer

If Simmonds is unfit bring in Knobel.

And if we had all fit players, KK goes to the forward pocket, p.bowden to the wing and polo on the pine.

 

[davey_23]

B - Chris Newman - Darren Gaspar - Andrew Raines
HB - Joel Bowden - Graham Polak - Will Thursfield
C - Dean Polo - Kane Johnson - Brett Deledio
HF - Kayne Pettifer - Jay Schulz - Patrick Bowden
F - Nathan Brown - Matthew Richardson - Richard Tambling
R - Troy Simmonds - Shane Tuck - Nathan Foley

INT - Adam Pattison - Andrew Krakouer - Greg Tivendale - Cam Howat

 

[Brooksy88]

im sure big boy krak doesnt need you protecting him

you can tell me all about it when he plays well and ill tell you about it when he is balls

sounds fun

im not protecting him, im just telling you that your lame little joke has been ridden a little bit to hard into the dirt.its time to get some fresh material...just have a think to yourself, how many people do you believe actually laugh when they see you misspell his name in a play-on-words. maybe the first couple of times you did it but i doubt it happens much anymore.

 

[tigermania]

I can't believe no-one has got HYDE in their best 22.

JB will not play fullback. He might end up there depending on match-ups. He creates the play from defence, and to move him up the ground will unbalance the side too much.

Most have JOHNNO on the bench. Madness. B&F winner.

All in all a good side if we can stay injury free.

GO TIGES 2007

 

[Tigerbob]

I can't believe no-one has got HYDE in their best 22.

JB will not play fullback. He might end up there depending on match-ups. He creates the play from defence, and to move him up the ground will unbalance the side too much.

Most have JOHNNO on the bench. Madness. B&F winner.

All in all a good side if we can stay injury free.

GO TIGES 2007

I agree with three of your points and strongly disagree with one of them:

AGREE:

1. JB wont play full back unless injuries hit.
2. Johnson on the bench is stupidity. He is our leader we need him on the ground.
3. We are a good side if injuries dont hit.

STRONGLY DISAGREE:

1. Chris Hyde is not in our best 22 if we are serious about being a good team, either is Tivendale, either is Krakouer and either is Hartigan. These guys should be known as SQUAD PLAYERS, only used in the seniors if injury forces our hand. If we are serious - Chris Hyde (centreman) Coburg Tigers.

 

[Bentleigh]

Tambling McGaune/Thursfeild* P Bowden
J Bowden Polak Newman
Raines Foley Johnson
Howat Schultz Brown
Pettifer Richo Kingsley
Simmonds Deledio Tuck

White Pattison Meyer Polo


*whom ever is travling better.

Death to; Tivendale, Gaspar, Hall, Knobel