Right race, wrong race

[puntking]

good advice here in general, have decided to go with one quaddy with

Field/2-9, 12/6,9,10/1,2,11: $40.50 spend for 5%. doing the maths on the full divvy being $800+ to get a positive ROI

its a method I'm still tinkering with a bit so will have days with a loss, others with a small return, and the occasional one like the Sale one. today strikes me as a day with a vulnerable odds-on in first leg and a very open second leg, so think the anticipated divvy of $800+ is worth spending more for to get through. in theory. part of my methodology in today is the overall thread and about looking for "right race, wrong race" and think the first leg is a "right race", reckon duritz is spot on with much of the first post.

now, watch the odds-on fave romp in first leg to throw the theory right out .

how did you go?

 

[TheJanuaryMan]

Nutted in the last leg unfortunately, best result led to last 75 and swamped

 

[Lensen]

Should have taken the field in the last leg too

 

[TheJanuaryMan]

Should have taken the field in the last leg too

ha, yep. its one of those systems that i'm still ironing out but over the time ive been doing it, is showing regular returns, so keen to keep pressing on with some tweaks. some of the advice today was sound and will take it into account, cheers lads.

 

[KardiniaPark]

ha, yep. its one of those systems that i'm still ironing out but over the time ive been doing it, is showing regular returns, so keen to keep pressing on with some tweaks. some of the advice today was sound and will take it into account, cheers lads.

It's common sense. Taking the field with no thought process is ridiculous. If you're that scared about going out in the first leg why not take a long and a short one? I guarantee your method is not working and will not work over time. I'll usually take 2-3 quaddies, if all my favoured selections get up I get a big percentage, and the more I get wrong the more the percentage goes down.

Your problem is you need to stop using quaddies as a source of a full days entertainment. They should be thought about completely separately from your other bets. How many times have you been through a day and in 3-4 picks you've got a couple of $10 winners and a $15 winner yet you lose the last leg and you've got nothing out of the day because you've been cheering a dead Quaddie all day? You need to look at the % allocated towards a quaddie because that's probably where your problem is.

Stop calling it a system, taking the field blonk with no thought is not a system.

 

[Jugada]

Thought i opened the superstitions and quirks thread by accident...

If you want to go wide early just because its a form of entertainment and you want to have something to follow through the day the fair game. Its not my style but i piss my money away on stupider things so cant judge

But there is absolutely no logic behind it to think its a successful "system" to follow and make a profit from. All you're doing is going wide early to give yourself a better chance of lasting til the half way point at the expense of the last 2 legs and/or a better % return

 

[TheJanuaryMan]

It's common sense. Taking the field with no thought process is ridiculous. If you're that scared about going out in the first leg why not take a long and a short one? I guarantee your method is not working and will not work over time. I'll usually take 2-3 quaddies, if all my favoured selections get up I get a big percentage, and the more I get wrong the more the percentage goes down.

Your problem is you need to stop using quaddies as a source of a full days entertainment. They should be thought about completely separately from your other bets. How many times have you been through a day and in 3-4 picks you've got a couple of $10 winners and a $15 winner yet you lose the last leg and you've got nothing out of the day because you've been cheering a dead Quaddie all day? You need to look at the % allocated towards a quaddie because that's probably where your problem is.

Stop calling it a system, taking the field blonk with no thought is not a system.

yep, its not my only method of betting, but understand what you are saying. its merely one method of betting I use and - like most methods - is by no means perfect and will have flawless (the first flawless system created will lead to being banned by books etc). that method doesn't allow for not taking value runners separately, so landing one of those can still return an overall profit for the day if the quaddie doesn't work.(eg that one I landed at Sale two weeks back, had also backed the $47 second leg winner, so a double whammy on the day)

you make some fair points, taken on board. still tweaking things and like all punters, will make some mistakes along the way.

i usually take the Jockey Challenge also as a means of keeping a full day's entertainment on the card as a separate bet, and find my ROI on those is very strong - bookies make mistakes with that market and allow for good returns (although like anything, variables like a jockey withdrawing can throw it out, the same way as a player getting injured halfway through a game can hurt a AFL bet)

 

[Lensen]

It's common sense. Taking the field with no thought process is ridiculous. If you're that scared about going out in the first leg why not take a long and a short one? I guarantee your method is not working and will not work over time. I'll usually take 2-3 quaddies, if all my favoured selections get up I get a big percentage, and the more I get wrong the more the percentage goes down.

Your problem is you need to stop using quaddies as a source of a full days entertainment. They should be thought about completely separately from your other bets. How many times have you been through a day and in 3-4 picks you've got a couple of $10 winners and a $15 winner yet you lose the last leg and you've got nothing out of the day because you've been cheering a dead Quaddie all day? You need to look at the % allocated towards a quaddie because that's probably where your problem is.

Stop calling it a system, taking the field blonk with no thought is not a system.

maybe he's a small punter looking for a big win and a bit of an interest. If he didn't exist neither would you, you uppity twat.

 

[Jugada]

 

[KardiniaPark]

maybe he's a small punter looking for a big win and a bit of an interest. If he didn't exist neither would you, you uppity twat.

 

[Gavin Excell]

I take the quad often to keep an interest over the day to prevent spending on each race.