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TENDULKAR GIVEN SUSPENDED BAN FROM TEST CRICKET
CricInfo - 19 November 2001

Sachin Tendulkar has been found guilty of ball tampering and given a
suspended ban from Test cricket. Match referee Mike Denness found Tendulkar
guilty of "acting on the match ball" while bowling on the third day of the
Second Test against South Africa at Port Elizabeth.

The Indian star appeared before Denness after footage of the incident had
been viewed by the former England international. Tendulkar was banned for
one Test match, though the sentence was suspended until 31 December 2001. He
was also fined 75% of his match fee.

Denness also disciplined five other Indian players. The most serious action
was taken against batsman Virender Sehwag, whose excessive appealing
attracted a fine of 75% of his match fee and a one-Test ban that will ensure
that he misses the third and final game of the current series in South
Africa.

Indian captain Sourav Ganguly, like Tendulkar, was banned for one Test
match, and also for two one-day internationals, for not appropriately
controlling the actions of his players. These sanctions were suspended until
the end of January 2002.

Spin bowler Harbhajan Singh, opening batsman Shiv Sunder Das and
wicketkeeper Deep Dasgupta did not escape lightly either, also receiving
suspended sentences of one Test match until the end of the year and
surrendering 75% of their match fees for excessive appealing.

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NO ENLIGHTMENT FROM DENNESS AT FARCICAL PRESS CONFERENCE
Peter Robinson - 20 November 2001

International Cricket Council match referee Mike Denness confirmed the
punishments handed down to six Indian Test players relating to incidents in
the second Test match against South Africa in Port Elizabeth, but refused to
elaborate on his decisions at a press conference that rapidly descended into
farce at St George's Park on Tuesday.

Amid accusations of bias and conspiracy, Denness sat tight-lipped next to
United Cricket Board chief executive Gerald Majola in what amounted to
little more than a puppet show as angry Indian and South African journalists
sought vainly to establish exactly what Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag,
Shiv Das, Deep Dasgupta, Harbhajan Singh and Sourav Ganguly had done to
deserve their punishments.

Five of the players received suspended sentences from Denness, but Sehwag
has been banned from playing in the third Test match at SuperSport Park
starting on Friday.

Exactly why, however, remains a mystery with Denness claiming that he is not
allowed to talk to the media by ICC regulations. Which, of course, begged
the question of why he was at the press conference in the first place. There
was no answer to this.

To further raise the temperature, it was alleged at the press conference
that Indian president, Jagmohan Dalmiya, has threatened to call off the
remainder of the tour if Denness was not removed as match referee.

According to a press release issued by Majola, Denness held four separate
meetings with the Indian players on Monday relating to incidents during the
South African second innings on Sunday.

Majola apologised for the leak of the punishments on Monday night. It
emerged that Denness had specifically asked the UCB not to make an official
announcement until Tuesday morning, but at least one journalist was informed
of the disciplinary by the Indian team management on Monday night.

So reticent was Denness to say anything that at one point Indian commentator
Ravi Shastri asked what he was doing there in the first place. "We all know
what he looks like," said Shastri.

Majola said that he would talk to Denness after the press conference and try
to obtain a more coherent explanation for the sentences. Two things,
however, are abundantly clear: in the first place this matter is far from
over; secondly, despite attempts to streamline it, the match referee system
remains clumsy, inconsistent and, in this instance, incoherent.

It might even be fair to say that Denness has done far more damage to the
game than the six players he punished.
 
I agree with the excessive appealing punishments...it was driving me up the wall the other night when I was watching it. But, I can't see what Sachin did wrong. The only footage I've seen is that he was picking at the seam...every bowler does that don't they?

Not sure if the match referee should be handing down sentances. I would have thought that the proper process would be for him to report it to the ICC and let the ICC determine guilt and then appropriate sentancing - otherwise it will become inconsistent.
 
He wasn't even picking at it properly, just running his fingernail along the seam. To make a ball open up you've got to pick it hard stitch by stitch.
 

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I've seen much worse incidents, although this has tarnished his reputation a little.

Is his suspended sentence the same as what Michael Slater got in India for his outburst? They don't miss any matches unless they repeat a violation?
 
Steve Waugh was very quick to put in his two cents' worth. Of course our boys are all angels, and when one of them steps out of line we don't see Steve Waugh standing back twiddling his thumbs saying nothing.... oh, hang on, yes we do.

The one-game suspension for Sehwag is a disgrace. The Tendulkar incident warranted a warning, if that; certainly not a suspended sentence.
 
Did anyone see the Indian commentators going absolutely sick in the press conference? Basically telling Mike Denniss he was a moron and a fool and India should boycott (which they considered).

The Foxtel commentators also let loose, Hasha was fuming and Ravi Shastri went right off, saying he should be sacked and needs to take a dip in the Indian Ocean to cool his hot head!

Looking at the replay I have to agree, his nails were so short it's virtually impossible he could have done any real damage anyway.

If the ICC wasn't such a paper tiger they would set up a tribunal like any other sporting organisation does in the world do deal with these things, rather than the opinion of a match referee.
 
Originally posted by RogerC
Steve Waugh was very quick to put in his two cents' worth. Of course our boys are all angels, and when one of them steps out of line we don't see Steve Waugh standing back twiddling his thumbs saying nothing.... oh, hang on, yes we do.

The one-game suspension for Sehwag is a disgrace. The Tendulkar incident warranted a warning, if that; certainly not a suspended sentence.

Roger

I think you will find that Steve Waugh was ASKED to put his two cents in at a news conference!

Subtle difference!

And Waugh stated that if one of his players gets caught stuffing about then they are on their own - hence his reasoning for sitting back, twiddling his thumbs and saying nothing!

MY 2 cents ;)

Cheers

Gonzo
 
Yeah, I know, Gonzo. I'm probably overreacting. It's just that whenever there's a scandal or incident involving an overseas player, we have Waugh's moral pronouncements all over the papers within 24 hours, and when one of our own is involved, he's curiously silent. I'd prefer he played a straight bat to questions regarding Tendulkar and the Indians.

If this exact same incident happened to one of our bowlers (say, Ponting or Mark Waugh), and a bunch of our players were given the same treatment for appealing too much - and if one of them, say Hayden, was suspended - the outrage in this country would be deafening. We'd be howling about the tall poppy syndrome, accusing the ICC of bias and inconsistency, etc, etc.

And overappealing happens here. It happens everywhere. it's just that somebody has decided to make an example of India.
 
Originally posted by GOALden Hawk

Looking at the replay I have to agree, his nails were so short it's virtually impossible he could have done any real damage anyway.


Probably a little irrelevant, the fact is he attempted to damage the ball and was seen doing so.
 
I have worked out what the problem is. The is a rule (42.3) in the ICC code of conduct which was brought in to prevent ball tampering. Basically, players are only allowed to polish the ball or wipe it with a cloth. Any picking to get dirt out of the seam must be done with the umpire present. This is because this has been the excuse used by ball tamperers in the past.

Of this Sachin is definately guilty. Whether or not he actually did any tampering is beside the point. He has broken the rules. He has not been penalised for ball-tampering, but for bad conduct or whatever.

The real issue is that the process to deal with these situations by the ICC has not worked effectively and needs to be reviewed. Match referees should not be handing out punishments, that should be left to the ICC so it is consistent. The code of conduct rules and process are still maturing, so it is going to have a few problems like this.
 
I've only seen a still photo of what he was doing & not actual footage so I can't comment on his guilt but they should be hard on people that 'change the condition' of the ball.The rules are there & there's no excuse really, it's funny that the Indian press are going nuts & saying that they should abort the tour as when Atherton got done for the dirt in the pocket thing the English press were well up for hanging him out to dry & there was a lot of talk of sacking him.
Also what's with all these suspended sentences, no one ever seems to actually get suspended from a Test match just the occassional one dayer.Until they start dishing out proper punishments people are gonna behave how they want anyway.
 
Originally posted by Briedis
I have worked out what the problem is. The is a rule (42.3) in the ICC code of conduct which was brought in to prevent ball tampering. Basically, players are only allowed to polish the ball or wipe it with a cloth. Any picking to get dirt out of the seam must be done with the umpire present. This is because this has been the excuse used by ball tamperers in the past.

Of this Sachin is definately guilty. Whether or not he actually did any tampering is beside the point. He has broken the rules. He has not been penalised for ball-tampering, but for bad conduct or whatever.

This is a pretty spot on summary, IMHO. It looked pretty innocuous, but if that's the rule, then ball tampering was a legitimate charge against him.
 

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just heard on the radio the SA board 'sacked' Denness (which is hard as he is not appointed by them.

The ICC has withdrawn test status from the third match in the series. Indian board (predictably) has agreed with SA decision. Dalmiya strikes again.

almost forgot, read this for a chuckle, especially the suggested Indian tactics on what to do if the opposition say bad words to you...
http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2001/nov/22black.htm
 
Originally posted by London Dave
just heard on the radio the SA board 'sacked' Denness (which is hard as he is not appointed by them.

The ICC has withdrawn test status from the third match in the series. Indian board (predictably) has agreed with SA decision. Dalmiya strikes again.

almost forgot, read this for a chuckle, especially the suggested Indian tactics on what to do if the opposition say bad words to you...
http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2001/nov/22black.htm

Cheers Dave

Had a good laugh!

I find it hilarious that Indian cricket "correspondents" keep bringing up the Waugh/Warne issue and convenientlty forget that their team was captained- CAPTAINED mind you- by one of the most corrupt individuals to ever play the game - Azzahrudin (sp)

Why don't they get this manager to come out and pick the seam (sorry CLEAN the seam) for them as well??

Cheers

Gonzo
 
Well it appears that the 'Test' will go ahead, but as an unofficial match. None of the records or statistics will count.

How does this affect the Rankings? I think it has to be a 2 test series, so does that mean South Africa have already won it?
 
G'day Vic! I'm still on this topic as you can see.:D Not getting as much heated debate on it here as in your board.... :(
 

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