EP surely have money post their WCE investment...and Perth have money, they choose not to spend it until a rainy day..it that will ever come....if EF are the richest club behind Subi, then heaven help the other clubs then..
The state of the competition
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WillieNillie
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East Perth pre West Coast were days away from bankruptcy. Our involvement merely helped them stave off death. I'd imagine they go under in the next few years in any case. They are broke. Perth used to have 400k but have invested this last year in improving their colts system and instead put it towards a 5 year fund for the youth team. They have the best catchment area but lost players due to poor resourcing so they are correcting that. They have a win a flag in the next 5 years or bust scenario at play
Other then that it's slim pickings elsewhere
‘WAFL is dead’: Outcry after GF fizzer
The balance of the WAFL has been called into question after Subiaco’s rampaging run to a 15th premiership on Sunday. Now competition officials are set to act.
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So my thinking is, if there is a reform of the WAFL, they shouldn’t try and bring Subiaco, they should be trying to raise everyone else up to Subi’s level.
What if WAFC funding was directed into increasing the Salary Cap at every WAFL team. Attract players away from suburban and country leagues. Raising the standard of competition and therefore attracting viewers.
Consolidate the number of playing venues to decrease maintenance costs which can be directed back into player development and improving the spectator facilities for increased experience.
Have Friday night games at the WACA ground once they’ve done their stadium redevelopment, and attract that CBD after work drinking crew and attract more corporate dollars to go towards the increased salary cap.
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Raising the salary cap will only cause Subi to go out and spend more on attracting the best players, strengthening them and increasing the gap. What player would choose another club over the perenial premiers?
How about make Subi deplete their millions by making them build a stadium suitable for WAFL finals footy, one which doesn't look 3/4 empty on GF day, like what Optus did on Sun....in addition, every opposition is entitled to a couple of free drinks from their licensed bar, call it payback for all the monies they received from those Subi Oval bar takings from WCE and Freo games over the years....
Well what if all of these 'outside fringe payments' get included in the salary cap. And then no other payments or the like can then go to the players. And then actually enforce it.
This would mean your not bringing Subiaco down from their current level, which for some reason it seems many people would prefer, which is odd, because surely we would want to be improving quality of the league.
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‘WAFL is dead’: Outcry after GF fizzer
The balance of the WAFL has been called into question after Subiaco’s rampaging run to a 15th premiership on Sunday. Now competition officials are set to act.
So my thinking is, if there is a reform of the WAFL, they shouldn’t try and bring Subiaco, they should be trying to raise everyone else up to Subi’s level.
What if WAFC funding was directed into increasing the Salary Cap at every WAFL team. Attract players away from suburban and country leagues. Raising the standard of competition and therefore attracting viewers.
Consolidate the number of playing venues to decrease maintenance costs which can be directed back into player development and improving the spectator facilities for increased experience.
Have Friday night games at the WACA ground once they’ve done their stadium redevelopment, and attract that CBD after work drinking crew and attract more corporate dollars to go towards the increased salary cap.
The money isn't available for any of this, unless the AFL or state government steps in.
Well in the first Football Budget of this year, it stated the Eagles are now charged $800,000 annually to have a stand-alone team in the WAFL. https://www.wafl.com.au/football-budget
If you distribute that to each of the WAFL teams, that increases their salary cap by almost $90,000 (or an increase of about 25% from what wikipedia says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Australian_Football_League#Salary_cap).
Well what if they bring in a Dockers stand-alone team as well, perhaps through a merger with an existing WAFL team so there is not an increase in teams. Then the annual fee to the two AFL teams for a stand alone team increases to say $1m each.
That would be an extra $2m over the remaining 8 WAFL clubs, at $250,000 would almost double the existing salary cap. And would make it competitive with the SANFL salary cap. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Australian_National_Football_League#League_administration
Yep Subi are the marsters both on and off the field.
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Each club is losing more then 100k a year fairly consistently. The 90k is eaten up alreadY
SANFL get triple the match day revenue WAFL clubs get hence the bigger salary cap. Only reason WAFL what it is s because of the Eagles, real time salary cap would be less then half what SANFL is
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Maybe, i would say WAFL reserves is possibly more physical, open running footy on bigger grounds is something that WA footy prides itself on and provides a difference to Vic footy, it is a result of the weather and grounds that dry in 20 minutes, i would say its a strength rather than weakness.
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I got out to every ground this season and East Freo is in the worst shape, just a matter of time before they go back to Freo Oval, although with South Freo owning their club freehold on a stretch of land at the oval it will be take some work.
I am not really sure what the WAFC can do to make the game more relevant, i actually liked the idea of the foxtel cup, but the games needed to be played at the WAFL clubs suburban grounds.
I am not really sure what the WAFC can do to make the game more relevant, i actually liked the idea of the foxtel cup, but the games needed to be played at the WAFL clubs suburban grounds.
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Now correct me if i am wrong but SANFL clubs (some ?) have pokies, therefore they provide cheaper grog, cheaper meals and cheaper membership, so even if your missus is not that interested in the footy they may still be keen to go, these clubs become much better places to socialise than a standard WAFL club that is only open on match days.
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That was on the cards but I was told they aren't coming back to Freo Oval now.
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A few of the SANFL clubs (North Adelaide, WWT, Sturt) don't have their "club" (and pokies) at their home ground though. They're nearby, but there's a bit of a disconnect in a way.
Annual review of WAFL Rules and Regulations
The West Australian Football Commission has finalised its annual review of Rules and Regulations for the West Australian Football League following the conclusion of the 2019 Optus WAFL Premiership Season. The annual review is an important part of the WAFC's focus to deliver a high standard...
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New rules in place to stop Subiacos dominance. Basically can't recruit anyone from outside their district unless they haven't played WAFL before (ie cant recruit anyone worth over 1 point).
The West Australian Football Commission has finalised its annual review of Rules and Regulations for the West Australian Football League following the conclusion of the 2019 Optus WAFL Premiership Season.
The annual review is an important part of the WAFC's focus to deliver a high standard, competitive and sustainable WAFL competition, where all clubs have an opportunity to play finals and win premierships.
WAFC Executive Manager WAFL & Football Operations Scott Baker said that the 2019 review had focussed on the competitive balance of the WAFL to ensure it was a close and exciting competition every season.
“We know fans want close matches, more upsets, and a showcase of the best talent on display. To achieve this, we will be implementing immediate rule changes for the 2020 season and considering a series of equalisation principals for the following year,” he said.
“Competitive balance is absolutely vital to the ongoing success of the WAFL and its ability to attract and retain new fans, members, supporters and sponsors. We want everyone to attend games each week knowing that any club has a genuine chance of winning.”
“We have sought feedback from the WAFL clubs on a range of recommendations to ensure the competition remains competitive, sustainable and successful into the future, before finalising any decisions.”
“Equalisation measures will now be implemented with the clear intent of closing the gap between the lower and higher placed clubs to continue to drive a more competitive and exciting competition.”
“This includes some rules specific to Subiaco Football Club, in response to their dominance over the last decade, and calls for the WAFC to assist the lower placed clubs to reach the same heights.”
“Factors such as Subiaco’s culture, professionalism and the unrelenting commitment from the whole playing group, have helped to establish their club as the benchmark, which can't be controlled by equalisation measures.”
“We have been clear that we do not want to implement measures that mean Subiaco will have to cut players from their list and tear at the fabric of the club. At the same time, we have considered options that would limit Subiaco from continuing to add out-of-zone recruits to their list, as a way of allowing other clubs to close the gap,” he said.
Specific recruiting rules will be applied to Subiaco Football Club for 2020 allowing the club to retain or replace current players, but not recruit additional players that are above one (1) point in value, according to the WAFL Rules and Regulations.
“We believe these measures will help spread the available talent amongst all WAFL clubs and contribute to competitive balance, while also supporting the foundation of the WAFL competition being built on developing and recruiting talent from local Districts.”
“Our new talent development model, which was launched at the beginning of last season, supports this principle and over time, will continue to improve the quality of players coming through each WAFL club’s zone.”
In 2019, non-AFL aligned WAFL clubs had 76% of players on average coming from their local District, which is something the WAFC wishes to see increase further in coming years.
For the 2020 season, the strategy to gradually reduce the Player Recruitment Points allocated to each club will encourage more home-grown talent to be added to each WAFL club’s list.
After reducing the baseline Player Recruitment Points allocation across the competition from 130 to 120 last year, the baseline will be reduced again to 100 points in 2020.
“This will give clubs less points to use on interstate or non-District recruits that are worth up to 12 points and encourage them to focus more on developing local 1-point players,” Baker said.
There will also be a reduction to the base allocation of interstate players allowed at each club from a maximum of seven (7) to six (6) players.
As part of equalisation measures, the ability will remain for the WAFC to adjust a club’s Player Recruitment Points allocation above 100 points or six (6) interstate players on an as needs basis to improve competitiveness.
The WAFC is also committed to implementing further equalisation measures ahead of the 2021 season. Some of the measures being considered include:
- Setting a minimum percentage of local players on each WAFL list or per match, which supports the WAFL’s District Development model.
- Introducing a cap on Non-District AFL players on each WAFL Club’s list.
- A Soft Cap on Football Departments and football related spending.
- Removing player points value reductions for long-serving recruits.
- Recruiting restrictions based on the financial sustainability of clubs – if clubs do not break even or better or do not have cash reserves, their recruitment is restricted.
- Continuing to vary player Player Recruitment Points based on each team’s ladder position.
- Finalise the District Boundary Review and changes required to WAFL Club zones.
SUMMARY OF AMENDMENTS TO WAFL RULES & REGULATIONS FOR 2020
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- Player Recruitment Point reductions – The overall baseline Player Recruitment Points cap reduced from 120 to 100 for Season 2020. (Clubs on 100 will include Claremont, Subiaco, South Fremantle and West Perth). In addition, Peel Thunder will be reduced to 80 points and West Coast 50 points.
- Player Recruitment Point concessions – Lower placed clubs will receive an allocation above 100 points to improve competitiveness. (Perth 110, East Fremantle 120, Swan Districts 120, East Perth 125)
- Player Recruiting Restrictions –Subiaco Football Club will be allowed to retain or replace current players, but not recruit additional players that are above one (1) point in value for the 2020 season.
- Interstate Players – Reduction to the base allocation of interstate players from seven (7) to a maximum of six (6) players per club.
- Protected Players – Any player that played nine (9) or more league matches in the previous season and any player with a points value of five (5) or more must be listed at all times on their club’s protected player list.
- Contracted Players – When clubs elevate player discussions to make an offer to a player, the financial details of this offer need to be lodged with the WAFC within 24 hours.
- Compliance – Players must be a minimum Level 2 coach to be eligible for any coaching payments. Any payments or coaching contracts need to be approved by the WAFC.
Claremont
- Reduction from 120 to 100 Player Recruitment Points
- Reduction from 130 to 120 Player Recruitment Points
- Reduction from 140 to 125 Player Recruitment Points
- Increase from 40 to 45 protected players
- Maximum 7 players from interstate
- Reduction from 100 to 80 Player Recruitment Points
- Player list to be a minimum of 50 players
- Maximum of four players with a points value of 5+
- Protected list of 35 players plus a supplementary list of 5 protected players
- Reserves games to be counted in determining finals eligibility of AFL-listed players
- Reduction from 130 to 110 Player Recruitment Points
- 45 protected players as per 2019
- Reduction from 120 to 100 Player Recruitment Points
- Reduction from 120 to 100 Player Recruitment Points
- Can only recruit Local District players or players from outside their District that haven’t previously played any WAFL League games, or haven’t played any WAFL League games in the past 24 months.
- Can relist AFL de-listed players from their District within the 100 points cap.
- Can replace any multiple point player (one for one) who leaves the club following the 2019 season with a player based on their player points value in accordance with the WAFL Rules & Regulations. Cannot use any residual points to recruit over and above this rule.
- One (1) point players can only be replaced by another one (1) point player.
- Will continue to be allocated 120 Player Recruitment Points
- Reduction from 60 to 50 Player Recruitment Points
- Reduction from 120 to 100 Player Recruitment Points
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Can anyone tl;dr that?
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WAFL clubs really need to start building stronger foundations and connections with their grass root clubs. They need to have a regular presence at all junior events.
If a significant proportion of junior athletes continue there development from junior clubs to WAFL development sides, the families will continue to show their allegiance which in turn leads to a larger fan base and greater interest at the highest levels.
At the moment, I don't see this happening anywhere near enough.
It also doesn't happen that many of the WAFL games are played on Sunday when junior football is played as well.
If a significant proportion of junior athletes continue there development from junior clubs to WAFL development sides, the families will continue to show their allegiance which in turn leads to a larger fan base and greater interest at the highest levels.
At the moment, I don't see this happening anywhere near enough.
It also doesn't happen that many of the WAFL games are played on Sunday when junior football is played as well.
