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All the usual end of season talk about who should be delisted, traded etc and after reading the opinion threads on Farmer, White and Jackson I thought that maybe our focus is wrong. Those guys have become our second string, our fall back positions our fill ins. What is going to be a huge challenge in 2012 is where the hell are we going to find room for Conca, Batchelor, Newman, Helbig, Moore, Astbury, Grimes and maybe Griifiths and Connors in the side as it stands. Add 2 decent draft picks and its a huge dilema, in fact potentially 11 players looking for a spot. Apart from the obvious deficiency in the ruck can we fit these guys in and what will the side look like? Certainly huge improvement in depth of nothing else.
 
All the usual end of season talk about who should be delisted, traded etc and after reading the opinion threads on Farmer, White and Jackson I thought that maybe our focus is wrong. Those guys have become our second string, our fall back positions our fill ins. What is going to be a huge challenge in 2012 is where the hell are we going to find room for Conca, Batchelor, Newman, Helbig, Moore, Astbury, Grimes and maybe Griifiths and Connors in the side as it stands. Add 2 decent draft picks and its a huge dilema, in fact potentially 11 players looking for a spot. Apart from the obvious deficiency in the ruck can we fit these guys in and what will the side look like? Certainly huge improvement in depth of nothing else.

Grimes for thursfield ,Griff or Astbury in for Miller,Moore is prob done and was overated anyhow there the obvious ones but it will b good that there will b pressure for spots.
 
This list goes to show that we are a very very young side but we do have the potential there. We have a very good first midfield, but a ordinary 2nd string midfield. Conca and Helbig should hopefully fill out into good midfielders. Astbury/Grimes into defenders, Griffiths into our forward and Batch into a long term back flanker. Newman is obviously best 22 and i think Moore could be done. We are 2 drafts away from really cleaning the list out properly. But this list of INs to be included is the number 1 reason i would trade pick 14 and sweetener for Z.Clarke. Use the 2nd round on the best mid to add depth. Morris comes in the 3rd round as a defender. Then get some more mids afterwards.

Potential team next year:

B: Grimes Rance Morris
HB: Newman Astbury Batchelor
C: Deledio Martin Houli
HF: Nahas Riewoldt Helbig
F: Griffiths Vickery King
R: Z.Clarke Cotchin Foley
INT: Conca Grigg Tuck
SUB: 2nd round mid

Next year we can add some 3 more good players from the draft and a free agent or 2 due to salary cap space.
 
All the usual end of season talk about who should be delisted, traded etc and after reading the opinion threads on Farmer, White and Jackson I thought that maybe our focus is wrong. Those guys have become our second string, our fall back positions our fill ins. What is going to be a huge challenge in 2012 is where the hell are we going to find room for Conca, Batchelor, Newman, Helbig, Moore, Astbury, Grimes and maybe Griifiths and Connors in the side as it stands. Add 2 decent draft picks and its a huge dilema, in fact potentially 11 players looking for a spot. Apart from the obvious deficiency in the ruck can we fit these guys in and what will the side look like? Certainly huge improvement in depth of nothing else.
Hang on (opens Wild Turkey bottle).

This is a conundrum the Richmond supporter is not used to and has no practical experience or knowledge about (David Attenborough accent)
 

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Well,

You'd expect the ruckman we are going to trade for is going to replace Graham.

Griffiths in for Miller if Griff can have a big pre-season

Astbury in for Post??

Then the obvious ones, Newman for Farmer, King for White, Batchelor for Dea, Grimes for Thursfield, Conca for Webberly. Hope we can get Morris to release Deledio into the midfield so Lids can replace Grigg/Jackson

Plus the 1st/2nd draft picks for maybe Morton and the other of Grigg/Jackson
 
Jeez who would have thought we would start having players compete for spots 12 or so mths ago:eek:

There is a hell of a lot to look forward to for the next five or so years with some of our duds now actually showing signs of becoming players (Rance, Vicks, Nahas, King........) add to that the growing talent in Dusty and our next (C) in Cotch and (VC) Jack, the recruits this year in Grigg & Houli........ Foley now injury free, Deledio and Newy no longer our only players to shut down........ promise in Helbig and Conca from last years draftees......... Grimes and Batchelor looking like long term prospects.......... guys like Astbury and Connors to return from injury........

Gee if we could only get a ruckman then who knows where these kids plus Novembers draft will take us next year and beyond?:thumbsu:
 
Jeez who would have thought we would start having players compete for spots 12 or so mths ago:eek:

There is a hell of a lot to look forward to for the next five or so years with some of our duds now actually showing signs of becoming players (Rance, Vicks, Nahas, King........) add to that the growing talent in Dusty and our next (C) in Cotch and (VC) Jack, the recruits this year in Grigg & Houli........ Foley now injury free, Deledio and Newy no longer our only players to shut down........ promise in Helbig and Conca from last years draftees......... Grimes and Batchelor looking like long term prospects.......... guys like Astbury and Connors to return from injury........

Gee if we could only get a ruckman then who knows where these kids plus Novembers draft will take us next year and beyond?:thumbsu:

I'm sure a ruckman would love to play 1st ruck at Richmond in 2012 and beyond.
 
Hang on (opens Wild Turkey bottle).

This is a conundrum the Richmond supporter is not used to and has no practical experience or knowledge about (David Attenborough accent)

My thoughts exactly good fellow! hahaaa Seriously though apart from ruckman we seem to have multiple options all over the ground even without new additions. Getting a bit bloody scary, as you say this is untrodden ground for us.
 
This list goes to show that we are a very very young side but we do have the potential there. We have a very good first midfield, but a ordinary 2nd string midfield. Conca and Helbig should hopefully fill out into good midfielders. Astbury/Grimes into defenders, Griffiths into our forward and Batch into a long term back flanker. Newman is obviously best 22 and i think Moore could be done. We are 2 drafts away from really cleaning the list out properly. But this list of INs to be included is the number 1 reason i would trade pick 14 and sweetener for Z.Clarke. Use the 2nd round on the best mid to add depth. Morris comes in the 3rd round as a defender. Then get some more mids afterwards.

Potential team next year:

B: Grimes Rance Morris
HB: Newman Astbury Batchelor
C: Deledio Martin Houli
HF: Nahas Riewoldt Helbig
F: Griffiths Vickery King
R: Z.Clarke Cotchin Foley
INT: Conca Grigg Tuck
SUB: 2nd round mid

Next year we can add some 3 more good players from the draft and a free agent or 2 due to salary cap space.

This looks good!
with back-ups like Post, Jackson, Connors, Heslin, Dea, Thursfield, Mcguane, Webberley, Brown?, Miller, Moore, Edwards.....
 
This list goes to show that we are a very very young side but we do have the potential there. We have a very good first midfield, but a ordinary 2nd string midfield. Conca and Helbig should hopefully fill out into good midfielders. Astbury/Grimes into defenders, Griffiths into our forward and Batch into a long term back flanker. Newman is obviously best 22 and i think Moore could be done. We are 2 drafts away from really cleaning the list out properly. But this list of INs to be included is the number 1 reason i would trade pick 14 and sweetener for Z.Clarke. Use the 2nd round on the best mid to add depth. Morris comes in the 3rd round as a defender. Then get some more mids afterwards.

Potential team next year:

B: Grimes Rance Morris
HB: Newman Astbury Batchelor
C: Deledio Martin Houli
HF: Nahas Riewoldt Helbig
F: Griffiths Vickery King
R: Z.Clarke Cotchin Foley
INT: Conca Grigg Tuck
SUB: 2nd round mid


Next year we can add some 3 more good players from the draft and a free agent or 2 due to salary cap space.

I'd probably have Dea and Edwards in for Morris and Helbig
 
Hope we can get Morris to release Deledio into the midfield so Lids can replace Grigg/Jackson

Plus the 1st/2nd draft picks for maybe Morton and the other of Grigg/Jackson
I understand why Jackson is maligned, BUT just to play devil's advocate, we do need somone to shut down the oppositions best midfielder - a tagger. Whilst it's great to say Deledio or Conca into the middle to replace Jackson, is either tight enough defensively? I know both have played in defence, but more as a free, rebounding type defender. Just not sure either is a ready made lock down, tagging midfielder to replace Jackson.
 

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Fair point, but is Grigg a vital cog in the midfield? Tbh i would rather see a draft pick learning the trade rather than Grigg, make him earn a spot
 
Really struggling to figure out where to put this, Tiger Sanctuary would've probably been the most appropriate but that place is abit of a ghost town... may as well put it here because hes an IN that is injured.

Jake Batchelor on crutches at todays NAB Rising Star.

http://images.slatterymedia.com/image/?image_id=242621

Does anyone know whats going on there? Thought he was out with a shoulder injury, not something related to his leg?
 

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no idea about Batchelor's leg but he is a dead ringer for Ben Cousins in that photo!!!
 
LMAO he really is. Hopefully has as good a career. Minus the extra stuff. Also, anyone hear today that Cuz will be a development coach next year (sorry for going off topic a bit) just didnt see it worthy of a new thread unless someone heard the source?
 

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