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Loose fitting doesn't show him up as musclebound.You'd think Bruce Wayne could afford a better fitting shirt. lol.
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Loose fitting doesn't show him up as musclebound.You'd think Bruce Wayne could afford a better fitting shirt. lol.
You'll be back on the DC bandwagon as soon as the first trailer comes out.Seeing Guardians of the Galaxy for the second time last night, I realised I have now officially become a Marvel Fanboy. As such, I now find myself viewing DC's scrambling attempt to replicate Marvel's success with pity and disdain.
I loved Nolan's Batman Universe and at the time of TDKR I was very anti-Avengers and pro-DC. But since the utter disappointment of Man Of Steel and Marvel going from strength to strength with Captain America 2 and now GotG, I am 100% behind any Marvel cinematic property and sceptical of anything DC related.
Trying to shoe-horn Batman, Wonder Woman and whomever else into Superman's second cinematic outing just seems... inorganic and rushed. Not to mention a change of tone after the (misguided IMO) initial efforts to ground Superman in reality similar to Nolan's Batman. I fail to see how Dawn of Justice will work on screen and to be honest, I don't really care if it fails. Marvel has shown how to treat comic properties properly and that is with love, patience and devotion to the original printed works.
Seeing Guardians of the Galaxy for the second time last night, I realised I have now officially become a Marvel Fanboy. As such, I now find myself viewing DC's scrambling attempt to replicate Marvel's success with pity and disdain.
Trying to shoe-horn Batman, Wonder Woman and whomever else into Superman's second cinematic outing just seems... inorganic and rushed.
Seeing Guardians of the Galaxy for the second time last night, I realised I have now officially become a Marvel Fanboy. As such, I now find myself viewing DC's scrambling attempt to replicate Marvel's success with pity and disdain.
I loved Nolan's Batman Universe and at the time of TDKR I was very anti-Avengers and pro-DC. But since the utter disappointment of Man Of Steel and Marvel going from strength to strength with Captain America 2 and now GotG, I am 100% behind any Marvel cinematic property and sceptical of anything DC related.
Trying to shoe-horn Batman, Wonder Woman and whomever else into Superman's second cinematic outing just seems... inorganic and rushed. Not to mention a change of tone after the (misguided IMO) initial efforts to ground Superman in reality similar to Nolan's Batman. I fail to see how Dawn of Justice will work on screen and to be honest, I don't really care if it fails. Marvel has shown how to treat comic properties properly and that is with love, patience and devotion to the original printed works.
The fact that the last hour was just ridiculous over the top destruction for seemingly no apparent reason?Any chance you could share why you didn't like MoS mate? I know it split a lot of opinion but I personally loved it more than Superman Returns (the last Superman film before MoS) and don't get some of the criticism it gets.
Granted the acting might not have been Oscar worthy (that's not why you go to see comic book films though haha) and the sequence of the story telling through a few people off (with the flashbacks at different stages). FWIW, I do enjoy the marvel films too and I do like the comedy they try and include in their films but I also do like the idea of DC and WB seemingly going for a darker style.
The fact that the last hour was just ridiculous over the top destruction for seemingly no apparent reason?
The fact Superman broke a guy's neck?
The fact Superman has zero character?
The fact it was utterly joyless to watch? Zero sense of fun or happiness.
I could go on.
The problem with MoS imo was that it didnt hit any great heights. Dont get my wrong I thought it was good enough and a good platform to move the series forward. But there was nothing exceptional or great in it and just didnt meet those expectations. I dont agree with many of the criticisms either and the only thing that really annoyed me were the alien creatures on Krypton I just thought they were completely unnecessary for the story.
I have almost zero faith in Snyder to do much better in this film. Hopefully the addition of Terrio can improve things.
Any chance you could share why you didn't like MoS mate? I know it split a lot of opinion but I personally loved it more than Superman Returns (the last Superman film before MoS) and don't get some of the criticism it gets.
Granted the acting might not have been Oscar worthy (that's not why you go to see comic book films though haha) and the sequence of the story telling through a few people off (with the flashbacks at different stages). FWIW, I do enjoy the marvel films too and I do like the comedy they try and include in their films but I also do like the idea of DC and WB seemingly going for a darker style.
I was enjoying MOS until Zod turned up to Earth, film just kept going downhill from there.
I could go on for days about the numerous issues Man of Steel had, but the most annoying for me was just the lazy/amateurish stuff that had me saying "wtf?" the moment it happened.
For example, the suit.
Clark spends considerable time tracking down that Kryptonian ship/the fortress of solitude, meets his father and then 30 seconds later there's a Superman suit just waiting for him in storage. This is meant to be a ship that has been on Earth for thousands of years - why the f**k is there a suit (that would fit him perfectly mind you) just waiting on board?
And just further to the mindless/over the top destruction in the last half an hour, it was a hell of a moment Snyder chose to have Lois and Superman kiss for the first time. Just when you see a broad view of a massive area of Metropolis leveled to dust, and quite possibly tens of thousands of people killed, they decide to get romantic and kiss? How about a thought for the mass of innocent lives lost through this needless destruction he was a part of?
Mind boggling stuff.
Oh, and the consistent references to Jesus also became tiresome the first 400 times they did it. Anyway, the list can go on and on but the first 45 minutes I thought was an excellent origin set up. Then it just deteriorated and fell apart.
The concept of a Superman v Batman film is quite exciting especially as it seems they're utilizing the TDKR as source material, but as long as Snyder is involved, then I fear he could ruin it. Again.
Not a fan of the portrayal of Zod or just the plot after he arrived? I personally loved Shannon's Zod as a villain (the only big problem being he got killed off so presumably won't be in any future movies haha).
Yeah, hard to argue with any of that. I personally didn't really feel the chemistry between Lois and Clark and the kiss as you pointed out was probably one of the more awkwardly timed things given the events in the film preceding it.
A big one for me is when Superman and Zod have their massive battle (they must fly numerous city blocks away from the place where Superman leaves Lois) but she just happens to show up at the museum as Superman kills Zod (how did she get there so quickly and even know where to go? With all the destruction, surely she couldn't have had a clean run to it even in a best case scenario). Also, with that family, Zod could have easily just moved his eyeballs (as Clark was holding his head and neck) to kill that family.
There's definitely quite a few plot holes there but most movies have them so you need to give them some scope for creativity in wanting to tell a story. I mean look at the Dark Knight trilogy, arguably the best comic book films ever made to date and they had some pretty glaring plot holes as well.
"I wouldn’t have taken the part if I didn’t trust my instincts in terms of the filmmaking,"
"I think Chris Terrio wrote a terrific script. Zack’s a great visual director. And there’s an interesting take. I wouldn’t have done it if I didn’t think I could do it."
That second bit is really encouraging to read IMO - Terrio (the guy who wrote 'Argo') apparently wrote the script and that leaves Snyder to handle the visual and special effects (which he is pretty good at IMO). Sounds like a good partnership - I'd have been more worried if Snyder wrote a lot of the script/was the one deciding on the direction and plot.
http://au.ign.com/articles/2014/08/14/ben-affleck-talks-batman-role-in-dawn-of-justice
I have seen that Superman movie, and hardly remember anything about it..must have been good..
I really dont recall if it was good or bad...I must have been a bit nonplussed?Yeah, that's a fair point too I guess mate. While I really enjoyed it, I don't think there was much in the way of really memorable scenes/moments that people will remember in 5-10 years time. I think the thing I'll best remember from the movie is the destruction and special effects
I really dont recall if it was good or bad...I must have been a bit nonplussed?
Yeah, hard to argue with any of that. I personally didn't really feel the chemistry between Lois and Clark and the kiss as you pointed out was probably one of the more awkwardly timed things given the events in the film preceding it.
A big one for me is when Superman and Zod have their massive battle (they must fly numerous city blocks away from the place where Superman leaves Lois) but she just happens to show up at the museum as Superman kills Zod (how did she get there so quickly and even know where to go? With all the destruction, surely she couldn't have had a clean run to it even in a best case scenario). Also, with that family, Zod could have easily just moved his eyeballs (as Clark was holding his head and neck) to kill that family.
There's definitely quite a few plot holes there but most movies have them so you need to give them some scope for creativity in wanting to tell a story. I mean look at the Dark Knight trilogy, arguably the best comic book films ever made to date and they had some pretty glaring plot holes as well.