Traded #30: Patrick Ryder - Returns to the club as Indigenous Player Development Manager

[Alfred E Neuman]

wait, there's something to this?

I was just throwing s**t at the wall and seeing what sticks (or the Ralph/Barrett paradigm, if you will)

Putting that Masters in Comms to good use.

 

[Zach Package]

Putting that Masters in Comms to good use.

I is wordsmith

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Here I'll name our best lot of players off the top of my head and you'll see we won't trade em.Boak, Gray, Wingard, Wines, Ebert, Lobbe, Trengove, Carlile, Hartlett, Broadbent, Hombsch,Pittard, Polec, White,Westhoff, Schultz, Jonas, Monfries, Impey, O'Shea you wont get as they won't leave.Now if it came down to a 1st rounder and say a Aaron Young or Andrew Moore you may get out of us even though they both are all happy at Port it will end up a case of a deal not getting done.All good asking for players but for 1 they won't leave Port Adelaide and 2 we won't offere them up the answer to the whole trade thing is dead.

If pick 14 and O'Shea is too much for Port...

 

[60sbomber]

**** me, how can so called media get it so wrong

"The 26-year-old is considering activating a clause which allows him to break his contract due to health fears from Essendon's 2012 supplements program."

He can't ******* activate a clause. He can ask to go the greviance tribunal which consists of independent arbiters chosen by the AFLPA and ask that it be considered by them, but he can't "activate" s**t

What I don't understand is how an AFL grievance tribunal can authorise the breaking of a legally enforecable contract.
Is it because the contract contains a clause saying that it is subject to AFL rules, and the AFL rules allow for the player to break the contract if he gets the ok from the grievance tribunal?
Would it be challengeable in a court?
If not, we would be in trouble. I can't see the AFLPA appointing anyone to the grievance tribunal who is not sympathetic to a player breaking his contract whenever he feels in the mood.

 

[60sbomber]

To anyone who suggests Ryder is not worth a high first pick + a good player, consider how many other ruckmen there are in the game who not only tap the ball regularly to advantage, but also function as an extra midfielder once the ball hits the ground, a pretty damn good user of the ball around the ground via foot, a KPF who regularly burns defenders on the lead & can take contested grabs, as well as someone who has experience as a CHB.

Bugger it, I'll answer it for you -- it's very few

But it doesn't matter because still I don't think he's leaving.

You can add in - someone who can snap a goal from a boundary throw in, over his shoulder after beating his opponent for speed and agility to get the ball in the first place.

 

[DonsRule]

Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun 10m
Essendon adamant it would only trade Ryder for an early pick & quality player. Ryder had told club he would not want it short-changed.

 

[eth-dog]

Buddy to relieve cap pressure on Sydney

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Still feel Sydney are in the box seat in terms of players. Brisbane in the box seat for picks. For mine if he really wants to leave, he does what is best for us and if that means Melbourne so be it.

 

[Yoda_]

With Sydney coming out and tipping there hat in the ring for Paddy, don't discount Tom Mitchell in this saga.

Essendon lose: Paddy Ryder + Pick 66

Essendon gain: Tom Mitchell + pick 37

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun 10m
Essendon adamant it would only trade Ryder for an early pick & quality player. Ryder had told club he would not want it short-changed.

If Brisbane and Port want him they need to cough up especially with Ryder's backing.

 

[The Dustbin]

Buddy to relieve cap pressure on Sydney

That would be Sheedy esque i.e If you can't beat them recruit them, ah la Campo and Justin Murphy.

 

[Jab]

Would we be happy if Sydney give up their number one pick and Mitchell?

 

[Ben the Gooner]

With Sydney coming out and tipping there hat in the ring for Paddy, don't discount Tom Mitchell in this saga.

Essendon lose: Paddy Ryder + Pick 66

Essendon gain: Tom Mitchell + pick 37

* no.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Would we be happy if Sydney give up their number one pick and Mitchell?

This guy gets it:

**** no.

If we're talking picks, we're talking top 10. Otherwise, why bother?

 

[eth-dog]

With Sydney coming out and tipping there hat in the ring for Paddy, don't discount Tom Mitchell in this saga.

Essendon lose: Paddy Ryder + Pick 66

Essendon gain: Tom Mitchell + pick 37

No. We get absolutely destroyed in that deal. If he nominates Sydney it turns into a 3 way deal with somebody else.

That would be Sheedy esque i.e If you can't beat them recruit them, ah la Campo and Justin Murphy.

Buddy in red and black... Imagine the frothing at the mouth from Hawthorn supporters.

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

If Brisbane and Port want him they need to cough up especially with Ryder's backing.

Ryder telling the club that he 'would not' want it short changed is very different to Ryder telling the club it will not be short changed.

 

[Zach Package]

Would we be happy if Sydney give up their number one pick and Mitchell?

It's tied to Isaac Heeney, so as of the start of trade period it's very likely to be unable to be traded. It's probably also part of the reason Mitchell is being floated, because Heeney is on Mitchell's level, if not higher.

Mitchell, Nankervis and a pick upgrade would be what i'd want

 

[eth-dog]

Ryder telling the club that he 'would not' want it short changed is very different to Ryder telling the club it will not be short changed.

It'll be pretty bloody close to

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Ryder telling the club that he 'would not' want it short changed is very different to Ryder telling the club it will not be short changed.

??

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Mitchell, Nankervis and a pick upgrade would be what i'd want

Mitchell, Reid and a good pick.

 

[DonsRule]

Ryder telling the club that he 'would not' want it short changed is very different to Ryder telling the club it will not be short changed.

I think it at least shows Ryder isn't that disgruntled that he seems to be making sure Essendon are looked after in any trade.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Here I'll name our best lot of players off the top of my head and you'll see we won't trade em.Boak, Gray, Wingard, Wines, Ebert, Lobbe, Trengove, Carlile, Hartlett, Broadbent, Hombsch,Pittard, Polec, White,Westhoff, Schultz, Jonas, Monfries, Impey, O'Shea you wont get as they won't leave.Now if it came down to a 1st rounder and say a Aaron Young or Andrew Moore you may get out of us even though they both are all happy at Port it will end up a case of a deal not getting done.All good asking for players but for 1 they won't leave Port Adelaide and 2 we won't offere them up the answer to the whole trade thing is dead.

So we can count Port out. Moore??

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

I think it at least shows Ryder isn't that disgruntled that he seems to be making sure Essendon are looked after in any trade.

Disgruntled enough to leave.

 

[HurlsMeister18]

Mitchell, Reid and a good pick.

Not sure about that considering we would have to take on Mitchell and Reid at a cost of $1 mill a year. Reid is on a 5yr contract at 600k per year still with 3 years to run and Mitchell going by reports is on a 400k per year contract which runs until 2016.

Would have been good if Geelong were in the hunt so we could try and grab someone like Stevie Motlop / Allan Christensen plus a draft pick. We desperately need outside run or someone with a good mix of an inside / outside game and I'm not sure Mitchell has that.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

If Beams is worth pick #4 then Ryder is worth the same cant have both Brisbane.