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Tywin didn't have Melisandre in the building and Davos looking for a plotline.
Film it discreetly in a Los Angeles studio.
Film it discreetly in a Los Angeles studio.
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I didn't say it was, I said if he was going to be brought back to life (which the creators would know because GRRM has given them the outline of the rest of the story) the creators can't exactly answer questions like "is Jon coming back" with "Yes, he is" or even "Maybe, you'll have to see" because we saw him die. It would totally ruin the surprise of the next season/book.Thats not a spoiler simpleton, just an opinion - last we saw of Jon in the books was him getting stabbed same as the tv show
He admitted he used black magic to kill him.
So what?
No problem, the thing about spoilers was I wanted to know what that poster was referring to as the 'obvious spoiler'. I couldn't tell what it was.Ahh right, apologies. Got you confused with the guy banging on about spoilers
No problem, the thing about spoilers was I wanted to know what that poster was referring to as the 'obvious spoiler'. I couldn't tell what it was.
Stannis is coming back, and this time he has cheat codes
So under this logic, Tywin survived being shot by Tyrion.
Stannis is coming back, and this time he has cheat codes
Do non-book readers in here think this season was (Outside episode 8) a failure?
It would be the worst and least emotional way to kill him ever. I kind of watched that thinking there is no way he is dead, and the show ended and left it on a balance that was kind of meant to be a cliffhanger, so most people are thinking he is not dead, but he could be. If it turns out he is dead at the start of next season, then it would be kind of like "oh ok then, that really sucks"... instead of if they had of just shown him die unequivocally in this episode which would have had much more impact.
Honestly though if Jon Snow is dead that is the worst way to end a series ever. You don't kill a character in an ambiguous way at the very end of the season so people are like "is he dead? " instead of "oh my god! ". So I think he isn't dead just based on that.
Bit of a stretch. Maybe a howling camel lolDid anyone notice his blood makes the shape of a howling wolf?
What a crap ending. So many things happenend and all so poorly implemented. No interesting dialogue whatsoever. None. the lack of showing the battle they have been talking up all season was a disgrace, particularly after showing so much of the battle that came out of nowhere in episode 8. Stannis death was just super lame and pathetic.
Stannis is definitely dead, director said showing his death would have been 'gratuitous'
I could certainly believe both were suicidal however.
It took me a while to actually even consider they might be alive. Both had every reason not to want to live anymore, their lives were complete hell and were only going to get worse. Brienne missed Sansa's signal which made the consequences of her putting vengeance before duty that much greater and everyone else was dying in the show so I just assumed this was another death scene. When I watched the scene the first time it looked like they were jumping directly onto ice.
That's not really dead though. That's why I didn't really feel anything when I saw that scene even though I love Jon Snow's character... at first I was like but then when they didn't finish him off properly and just left him bleeding in the snow, I was like "Oh, he'll be ok". Everyone who really dies gets killed in a way that shows they aren't coming back. And for a character as important as Jon Snow, there is no way a good writer would kill him on a cliff hanger if they didn't mean for the audience to be wondering if he will be back in the next season. So it was definitely not an unequivocal death.Thought it was pretty unequivocal and unambiguous, he's definitely dead. Whether or not Melissandre can pull a Beric Dondarrion on him is the question, hope so.
So, it was implied that Brienne might not be sure that Stannis killed Renly. He openly admitted it.
Yea, but Stannis was the rightful heir, not Renly.
They were going to war due to Renly's action, you can't blame big Stan for dicking him first.
Yea, but Stannis was the rightful heir, not Renly.
They were going to war due to Renly's action, you can't blame big Stan for dicking him first.