Mega Thread Oh yeah ... did you know there are 17 other teams? - General AFL discussion #9 - Blues posters only

[ESKIE]

Yeh, Nah

I am really not convinced its racist, other players get booed jeered too, just as bad

Edit: maybe I'm reading it all wrong, maybe it is racism and if it is thats just disgraceful, but I'm reLly not convinced.

 

[BeligerentBlue]

I go away every year with mates to one interstate game. We were to go to the Sydney game but to our shame pulled out due to our atrocious form. I admired those brave bluebaggers that did make the effort and stared down a shellacking only to have this great idiot threaten them with a gloating war dance when we were clearly already demoralized; only then to play the victim again when it wasn't universally admired. Don't like him. Sorry

 

[Bronze]

There's no doubt a majority of people don't like him... what you have to question is why? Exactly what does their dislike for him stem from?

This article gives you a pretty good idea.

https://newmatilda.com/2014/11/12/t...dam-goodes-over-racism-comments-british-radio

Australian of the Year Adam Goodes has been attacked by a radio shock jock for telling foreign media the truth about the ‘settlement of Australia’, stating Australia is built on "lies".

Sydney Swans star Goodes has become a prominent anti-racism campaigner after he called out a 13-year-old girl for yelling racial taunts while he was playing in the AFL Indigenous Round last year.

Just weeks after being named the 2014 Australian of the Year, Goodes told media that veteran journalist John Pilger’s film Utopia, which chronicles the horrors inflicted on Aboriginal Australia, had made him ashamed to be Australian, adding that he found the silence from the mainstream media “embarrassing”.

Earlier this week, he told BBC’s Extra Time* program that casual racism was a problem in Australian society, and that the first steps to eradicate it was education.

He said you couldn’t really blame Australians for their racist views because they were taught the wrong things about the colonisation of the country.

“I’d hate to put a figure (on the amount of racism) but the history of our country is based on so much lies and racial policies and things like that that have suppressed my people and lots of minorities in this country,” Goodes said.

“So you can’t blame people for having the views they have... the way I see it is I can use my position to help educate people, to see through the things they can be taught growing up… to see Captain Cook didn’t found Australia as I was taught in high school, until I found out otherwise.

“So, education is a big thing. People can change. I know they can.”

Goodes’ comments on the true history of Australia provoked an immediate reaction from Melbourne 3AW’s Neil Mitchell today.

“The sooner Adam Goodes finishes as Australian of the Year the better, as far as I’m concerned,” Mitchell said.

“I’m sick of the continued sniping. At times Adam Goodes seems not to like Australia. He’s trying to change the country. Yes, parts of our history are not decent but we have moved on from that.”

In the BBC interview, Goodes spoke at length about his own experiences of racism, and how it had affected his family members who internalised it and turned to other methods to cope.

“Racism towards me… has shaped my life… I remember the person who said that and when and where they did it,” he said.

“A lot of people still unfortunately in our communities don’t see how that has any effect racially.”

When questioned by the interviewer about why he seemed so “tolerant” against racists, Goodes said: “We’ve had to put up with a lot unfortunately… you become quite tolerant because if you don’t you become very angry and you do things you probably don’t choose to do.

“I have family members who can’t take it as well as I can. They react with violence, with drinking, drugs. These types of things are a coping mechanism because people don’t understand how much racial abuse can hurt people. It can put people into depression.

“…I think also is if (you’re) constantly taking this racial abuse, (you’re) going to start thinking ‘I’m not good enough, I don’t belong here, where do I belong?’… If I can’t find an area where to belong, bad things happen around drugs, alcohol, depression… even suicide.”

Goodes has stared numerous attacks since he began highlighting racism in Australia.

Last month, New Matilda revealed that a specialist reviewer for the English section of the National School Curriculum review, Professor Barry Spurr repeatedly called Goodes an “Abo” who only won the Australian of the Year title so that Prime Minister Tony Abbott could place “Abos in the constitution”.

Spurr also wrote that as a footballer, and with a mother from the Stolen Generations, all Goodes needed was a disability and he would be the perfect role model for Australians.

 

[TommyMcG]

http://m.theage.com.au/comment/adam...ome-a-redneck-wonderland-20150727-gil6e2.html

Francis Leach puts it much better than I ever could...

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

I go away every year with mates to one interstate game. We were to go to the Sydney game but to our shame pulled out due to our atrocious form. I admired those brave bluebaggers that did make the effort and stared down a shellacking only to have this great idiot threaten them with a gloating war dance when we were clearly already demoralized; only then to play the victim again when it wasn't universally admired. Don't like him. Sorry

Do you really think they felt threatened by an imaginary spear?

 

[passmark]

Do you really think they felt threatened by an imaginary spear?

Starts with an imaginary spear MEB , next week, imaginary Glock.

Carnage.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Starts with an imaginary spear MEB , next week, imaginary Glock.

Carnage.

Oh no! They might get an imaginary injury and bleed imaginary blood! Hope none of them ever play charades cos they might never recover...

 

[Toddy86]

Puts Friday night into perspective a bit

 

[thylacine60]

Neil Mitchell "Yes, parts of our history are not decent but we have moved on from that.”

Of course. If you're a middle class white person you have.

 

[Wickzki]

I wonder what #35 of Fremantle thinks of Adam Goodes being labelled an Ape.

 

[Keyza]

I go away every year with mates to one interstate game. We were to go to the Sydney game but to our shame pulled out due to our atrocious form. I admired those brave bluebaggers that did make the effort and stared down a shellacking only to have this great idiot threaten them with a gloating war dance when we were clearly already demoralized; only then to play the victim again when it wasn't universally admired. Don't like him. Sorry

I was one of those brave bluebaggers who made the Sydney trip and was sitting in the area that Goodes' threatened with his war dance. It was intimidating and I am with you, I just dont like him. Nothing to do with his heritage.

 

[El Topo]

Goodes comes across as a sanctimonious dickhead (albeit with good intentions) but surely the intensity and staying power of the booing has gone way over the top. It's time to save the booing, if any, for when he's lining up for goal since it actually distracts him. If the rest of it is warranted he'll do something else soon enough to warrant a resumption.

 

[thylacine60]

White people can't deal with uppity coloureds. The End.

 

[BeligerentBlue]

The hideous abuse yazz received from so called blues fans when walking off after the hawks game is greater than anything I imagined goodes has suffered lately.

 

[passmark]

White people can't deal with uppity coloureds. The End.

Some other smart guy wrote that today

 

[passmark]

The hideous abuse yazz received from so called blues fans when walking off after the hawks game is greater than anything I imagined goodes has suffered lately.

Makes it ok then?

 

[ESKIE]

White people can't deal with uppity coloureds. The End.

No its not that with Goodes

I can't believe people really think that.

 

[Quazza]

This whole booing thing, isn't it just slightly over the top, Gil steps in ans says stop booing Goodesy, it has to stop. Juddy was booed often by opposition, look at what Milne copped, why is Goodes special? its not racist,

I'm going to take stab in the dark here and guess that you are white?

Who are "we" (yes, I too am white) to tell an Indigenous person, what is or isn't racist?

 

[BeligerentBlue]

Makes it ok then?

Jesus christ

 

[thylacine60]

I'm going to take stab in the dark here and guess that you are white?

Who are "we" (yes, I too am white) to tell an Indigenous person, what is or isn't racist?

or what hurts? or why?

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Other players have been booed before, but none have been booed to this extent. Constant abuse and vitriol being spat at him whenever he is on screen, let alone when he has the ball, is just ludicrous and those partaking should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[SBYM]

This is my favourite appraisal of the Goodes situation...(sorry, the sound is rubbish..)



Go to YouTube and read the comments below the video for some intelligent and well-reasoned comments...

 

[ESKIE]

Milne was far worse, for longer

 

[thylacine60]

Young kid at the game sees dad and his mates just booing the black guy. Good enough then.......

 

[thylacine60]

This is my favourite appraisal of the Goodes situation...(sorry, the sound is rubbish..)



Go to YouTube and read the comments below the video for some intelligent and well-reasoned comments...

There's a first......