Lipinski should be dropped before Mitchell. Hasn't had a good game since coming back compared to Mitchell who at full flight has had big games for us, releasing Naicos and JDG. Mitchell and Adams at 70/30 rotating midfield/HFF is a better combo than Adams/Lipinski. Lipinski is just as slow as Mitchell but without the clearance game.
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Lipinski should be dropped before Mitchell. Hasn't had a good game since coming back compared to Mitchell who at full flight has had big games for us, releasing Naicos and JDG. Mitchell and Adams at 70/30 rotating midfield/HFF is a better combo than Adams/Lipinski. Lipinski is just as slow as Mitchell but without the clearance game.
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But after the first couple of weeks, Mitchell hasn't been rotating with Adams. Since very early in the season, he has been playing purely mid.
Mitchell is an excellent footballer, but for his clearance game to matter, he's got to be playing as a stoppage mid. At the moment, I think it's hard to justify him getting big minutes in that role, as Adams and Nick are flying and JDG and Pendles rock. We're stacked. And it's hard to see him being effective in another role.
The Port board is full of Kane Cornes clones. Don't think they've ever had an original thought between themselves.
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You got that wrong. He'd a' got 3 votes for that heroic and tasteful act.
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If umps were paying holding last night we would have seen the most number of free kicks paid to one team in history of the competition. Shit tactic from your mob tbh.
There’s four of them.
And the justification for going from three to four was so they wouldn’t miss these blatant acts.
Maybe we need eight?
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Love how Rioli is almost made out to look like a hero even though he hit Murphy in the face on purpose!
Go do that to someone on the street and you'd deserve more than verbal abuse.
Go do that to someone on the street and you'd deserve more than verbal abuse.
Cox should have got three frees in his first three ruck contests
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This team can definitely win multiples. Not getting ahead of myself. My posting history would suggest that, however we have ALL the NECESSARY ingredients to do this.
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Im curious to know: now that the dust has settled, does everyone still feel convinced about our win?
Do we have something to worry about in Port (and/or their method for stopping us), or are you totally confident we have their measure?
Do we have something to worry about in Port (and/or their method for stopping us), or are you totally confident we have their measure?
No concerns with them at home. They're the easiest of the three teams we'd likely face in our first final. We do have some things to work on though, mostly in the midfield. Conditions definitely helped their territory game.
Top-of-the-table clashes don't come around very often, nor live up to the expectations all the time. On Saturday night in a contest that delivered and met expectations, Collingwood conjured another miracle which saw them come from behind at three quarter time to vanquish Port Adelaide by 2 points. The opening term was evenly fought with momentum shifts throughout the quarter where both sides booted four goals each, with the Magpies having their noses in front by 3 points at quarter time. The second quarter was low-scoring and scrappy with the Power gaining the upper hand by winning the quarter by 10 points to take a lead of 7 points into the main break at half time. The third term saw the Woods hit back early in the quarter, only for Port Adelaide to respond with answering goals to retain their lead and increase it slightly during the remainder of the term, despite being inaccurate at times which would ultimately cost them a victory, with Port winning the quarter by 10 points, therefore increasing their lead at three quarter time to 17 points. In the opening minutes of the last quarter, Collingwood hit back hard with incredible finishes from Steele Sidebottom and Josh Daicos to draw the margin back to within a kick. Nick Daicos, who was low on impact managed to convert a crucial goal to keep the Pies in the game, before Bobby Hill levelled the scores halfway through the final term. Then it was left to Jamie Elliott to save his best footy until last, where he booted two of his three goals in the last quarter. His second goal gave Collingwood back the lead, before his third and final goal came with three minutes left in which he disected the big sticks with a piercing drop punt that ultimately gave the final lead change to the Magpies, where they would not be headed for the remainder of the game, and were able to defend stoicly and hold on to win by 2 points.
Collingwood won their statistical categories from key indicators such as disposals by +14 (350 - 336), handballs were won by +29 (147 - 118), contested possessions had a differential of +8 (148 - 140), while hit-outs had a margin of +23 (57 - 34), followed by clearances which were up by +8 (54 - 46), centre clearances had an advantage of +4 (15 - 11), and +4 from stoppage clearances (39 - 35). Port Adelaide displayed their strengths from categories such as kicks by +15 (218 - 203), uncontested possessions were won by +16 (180 - 164), conceded fewer turnovers with a reading of -7 (73 - 80), and intercept possessions were up by +6 (80 - 74). Tackles had a margin of +15 (79 - 64), while Tackles Inside 50 were won by +13 (15 - 2). Marks went Port Adelaide's way by +11 (66 - 55), uncontested marks had a reading of +11 (57 - 46), while intercept marks were claimed by +6 (80 - 74), Marks Inside 50 had a differential of +2 ( 10 - 8 ), and Inside 50s had a gap of +13 (57 - 44). Contested marks (9 each) was the only neutral category.
Scott Pendlebury (28 disposals @ 61%, 581 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 20 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 12 handballs, 2 marks, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 6 clearances, 3 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) stood up in the midfield to win clearances and accumulate crucial possessions, of which he would kick it long and forward as often as possible in wet conditions.
Steele Sidebottom (26 disposals @ 50%, 502 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 22 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 20 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements, 5 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s, 5 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) competed hard on the wing, where he would run to provide support to his teammates or put the foot down and stop Port Adelaide's ball movement from stoppages. In a similar vein to Pendlebury, Sidebottom was all about territory.
Nick Daicos (25 disposals @ 60%, 317 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 11 handballs, 6 tackles, 4 score involvements, 9 clearances, 4 centre clearances, 5 stoppage clearances, 3 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) had his influence and impact nullified by Willem Drew, but still found ways to contribute to the team's ball movement, especially from clearances. Nick was able to capitalise on his shot at goal during the last quarter which contributed to the outcome of the contest.
Taylor Adams (25 disposals @ 60%, 597 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 20 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks, 5 tackles, 6 score involvements, 9 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 7 stoppage clearances, 8 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was Collingwood's most influential player of the night in his 200th game, where he contributed to scoring chains and constantly provided opportunities for his team's forwards to compete or score from his possessions. Adams was particularly lethal around stoppage clearances, where he was able to win his own ball at will before producing attacking ball movement.
Josh Daicos (24 disposals @ 46%, 507 metres gained, 13 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 11 handballs, 2 marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) accumulated possessions regularly, but had to work harder than normal to win his possessions. Josh worked overtime to support his defenders with his work rate behind the ball being very noticeable. Josh kicked a great goal from the boundary to instill belief in his team's comeback, which was successful.
Jack Crisp (23 disposals @ 83%, 371 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 17 handballs, 4 marks, 6 tackles, 2 goal assists, 6 score involvements & 3 Inside 50s) relied on his handballing game to continually move the ball under pressure from the midfield or half-back on transition to generate run through the corridor or wings to break open Port Adelaide's grid behind the ball. Crisp is always an exciting player to watch when he is creating and producing daring runs through the corridor.
Jordan De Goey (19 disposals @ 42%, 183 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 10 handballs, 4 tackles, 2 score involvements, 7 clearances, 4 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) had a torrid time in the midfield where much of his impact and creativity got shut down. De Goey's only major contribution was through his ability to win clearances from anywhere, but that was all he could do.
Darcy Cameron (16 disposals @ 56%, 45 hit-outs, 12 contested possessions, 4 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 8 handballs, 2 tackles, 6 score involvements, 5 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances & 2 Rebound 50s) played a pivotal role in giving his midfield opportunities to gather the footy at ground level and generating dominance in the middle and around the ground at stoppages.
Darcy Moore (20 disposals @ 75%, 328 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 8 handballs, 4 marks, 3 contested marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements & 6 Rebound 50s) provided steady and effective ball use coming out of defence, while winning crucial marks in aerial contests.
Isaac Quaynor (13 disposals @ 85%, 270 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks & 4 Rebound 50s) was tremendous in defence with measured and effective ball use under pressure, while taking a few marks to stem the bleeding. Quaynor's effort to spoil Willie Rioli from marking and having a shot at goal was his greatest moment of the night.
Brayden Maynard (12 disposals @ 83%, 385 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 3 handballs, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) rolled high up the ground from defence to become a lethal and aggressive player to attack the game and create scoring chains for his teammates to finish off Maynard's hard work.
John Noble (11 disposals @ 91%, 246 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 tackles, 2 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) played simple and attacking footy throughout the evening where his ball use was highly accurate and effective.
Patrick Lipinski (20 disposals @ 80%, 289 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 10 kicks, 10 handballs, 7 marks, 3 score involvements, 4 clearances & 4 stoppage clearances) played as a high half-forward that would then get involved at stoppages to play as an extra midfielder. Lipinski also provided countless leads as a half-forward by taking several marks to maintain possession before moving the ball on.
Jamie Elliott (12 disposals @ 83%, 177 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 4 marks, 4 Marks Inside 50, 2 goal assists, 8 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 3 goals) put on a masterclass in the last quarter to get the Magpies over the line. His final goal of the game will be spoken about in the years and decades to come.
Beau McCreery (10 disposals @ 60%, 291 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 10 kicks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was immense on occasions with his breakaway speed resulting in a running snap going through for his only goal in the opening term, before using his footspeed once more to run towards 50 before pulling a magnificent kick across his body to Bobby Hill, who finished off McCreery's moment of brilliance.
Brody Mihocek (8 disposals @ 50%, 151 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 2 uncontested possessions, 5 kicks, 3 handballs, 6 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 goals) kicked crucial goals at the right times to ensure the Pies did not lose touch with the Power throughout the evening.
Dan McStay (8 disposals @ 50%, 236 metres gained, 2 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 4 marks, 2 score involvements & 2 goals) performed in a similar manner to Brody Mihocek, where McStay took his chances and made them count on the scoreboard.
Collingwood's next game will be against Carlton on July 28 at the MCG. The Blues have shown resurgence, and under Friday night lights at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, the Magpies will attempt and endeavour to close and shut down any imposing and meaningful threats that Carlton might have. It is imperative that the Woods keep the Baggers in their bag, and consign them to their fourth consecutive loss against the Magpies on Friday.
Collingwood won their statistical categories from key indicators such as disposals by +14 (350 - 336), handballs were won by +29 (147 - 118), contested possessions had a differential of +8 (148 - 140), while hit-outs had a margin of +23 (57 - 34), followed by clearances which were up by +8 (54 - 46), centre clearances had an advantage of +4 (15 - 11), and +4 from stoppage clearances (39 - 35). Port Adelaide displayed their strengths from categories such as kicks by +15 (218 - 203), uncontested possessions were won by +16 (180 - 164), conceded fewer turnovers with a reading of -7 (73 - 80), and intercept possessions were up by +6 (80 - 74). Tackles had a margin of +15 (79 - 64), while Tackles Inside 50 were won by +13 (15 - 2). Marks went Port Adelaide's way by +11 (66 - 55), uncontested marks had a reading of +11 (57 - 46), while intercept marks were claimed by +6 (80 - 74), Marks Inside 50 had a differential of +2 ( 10 - 8 ), and Inside 50s had a gap of +13 (57 - 44). Contested marks (9 each) was the only neutral category.
Scott Pendlebury (28 disposals @ 61%, 581 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 20 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 12 handballs, 2 marks, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 6 clearances, 3 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) stood up in the midfield to win clearances and accumulate crucial possessions, of which he would kick it long and forward as often as possible in wet conditions.
Steele Sidebottom (26 disposals @ 50%, 502 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 22 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 20 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements, 5 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s, 5 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) competed hard on the wing, where he would run to provide support to his teammates or put the foot down and stop Port Adelaide's ball movement from stoppages. In a similar vein to Pendlebury, Sidebottom was all about territory.
Nick Daicos (25 disposals @ 60%, 317 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 11 handballs, 6 tackles, 4 score involvements, 9 clearances, 4 centre clearances, 5 stoppage clearances, 3 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) had his influence and impact nullified by Willem Drew, but still found ways to contribute to the team's ball movement, especially from clearances. Nick was able to capitalise on his shot at goal during the last quarter which contributed to the outcome of the contest.
Taylor Adams (25 disposals @ 60%, 597 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 20 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks, 5 tackles, 6 score involvements, 9 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 7 stoppage clearances, 8 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was Collingwood's most influential player of the night in his 200th game, where he contributed to scoring chains and constantly provided opportunities for his team's forwards to compete or score from his possessions. Adams was particularly lethal around stoppage clearances, where he was able to win his own ball at will before producing attacking ball movement.
Josh Daicos (24 disposals @ 46%, 507 metres gained, 13 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 11 handballs, 2 marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) accumulated possessions regularly, but had to work harder than normal to win his possessions. Josh worked overtime to support his defenders with his work rate behind the ball being very noticeable. Josh kicked a great goal from the boundary to instill belief in his team's comeback, which was successful.
Jack Crisp (23 disposals @ 83%, 371 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 17 handballs, 4 marks, 6 tackles, 2 goal assists, 6 score involvements & 3 Inside 50s) relied on his handballing game to continually move the ball under pressure from the midfield or half-back on transition to generate run through the corridor or wings to break open Port Adelaide's grid behind the ball. Crisp is always an exciting player to watch when he is creating and producing daring runs through the corridor.
Jordan De Goey (19 disposals @ 42%, 183 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 10 handballs, 4 tackles, 2 score involvements, 7 clearances, 4 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) had a torrid time in the midfield where much of his impact and creativity got shut down. De Goey's only major contribution was through his ability to win clearances from anywhere, but that was all he could do.
Darcy Cameron (16 disposals @ 56%, 45 hit-outs, 12 contested possessions, 4 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 8 handballs, 2 tackles, 6 score involvements, 5 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances & 2 Rebound 50s) played a pivotal role in giving his midfield opportunities to gather the footy at ground level and generating dominance in the middle and around the ground at stoppages.
Darcy Moore (20 disposals @ 75%, 328 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 8 handballs, 4 marks, 3 contested marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements & 6 Rebound 50s) provided steady and effective ball use coming out of defence, while winning crucial marks in aerial contests.
Isaac Quaynor (13 disposals @ 85%, 270 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks & 4 Rebound 50s) was tremendous in defence with measured and effective ball use under pressure, while taking a few marks to stem the bleeding. Quaynor's effort to spoil Willie Rioli from marking and having a shot at goal was his greatest moment of the night.
Brayden Maynard (12 disposals @ 83%, 385 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 3 handballs, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) rolled high up the ground from defence to become a lethal and aggressive player to attack the game and create scoring chains for his teammates to finish off Maynard's hard work.
John Noble (11 disposals @ 91%, 246 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 tackles, 2 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) played simple and attacking footy throughout the evening where his ball use was highly accurate and effective.
Patrick Lipinski (20 disposals @ 80%, 289 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 10 kicks, 10 handballs, 7 marks, 3 score involvements, 4 clearances & 4 stoppage clearances) played as a high half-forward that would then get involved at stoppages to play as an extra midfielder. Lipinski also provided countless leads as a half-forward by taking several marks to maintain possession before moving the ball on.
Jamie Elliott (12 disposals @ 83%, 177 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 4 marks, 4 Marks Inside 50, 2 goal assists, 8 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 3 goals) put on a masterclass in the last quarter to get the Magpies over the line. His final goal of the game will be spoken about in the years and decades to come.
Beau McCreery (10 disposals @ 60%, 291 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 10 kicks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was immense on occasions with his breakaway speed resulting in a running snap going through for his only goal in the opening term, before using his footspeed once more to run towards 50 before pulling a magnificent kick across his body to Bobby Hill, who finished off McCreery's moment of brilliance.
Brody Mihocek (8 disposals @ 50%, 151 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 2 uncontested possessions, 5 kicks, 3 handballs, 6 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 goals) kicked crucial goals at the right times to ensure the Pies did not lose touch with the Power throughout the evening.
Dan McStay (8 disposals @ 50%, 236 metres gained, 2 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 4 marks, 2 score involvements & 2 goals) performed in a similar manner to Brody Mihocek, where McStay took his chances and made them count on the scoreboard.
Collingwood's next game will be against Carlton on July 28 at the MCG. The Blues have shown resurgence, and under Friday night lights at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, the Magpies will attempt and endeavour to close and shut down any imposing and meaningful threats that Carlton might have. It is imperative that the Woods keep the Baggers in their bag, and consign them to their fourth consecutive loss against the Magpies on Friday.
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I’m worried about every team we will meet in the finals.
Because, despite our glorious song, finals are not a cakewalk.
Steele was unbelievably clean throughout. None of our players could touch it in the first few minutes and then he grabs it off his toes and dances through like it’s nothing. His goal in the last was class.
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Port Adelaide. The real deal or pretenders?
Port Adelaide. The real deal or pretenders?
This time in 2010 it had been 16 years since Malthouse last won a premiership. But he had 2 Grand final appearances from 8-7 years earlier, unlike Hinkley who hasn't appeared once in 10 seasons. Malthouse is on a higher level than Hinkley. Port should actually do what Collingwood did and hire a...
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Short answer: On MCG with less stoppages and room to move we at least a 4 goal better side than Port.
In addition, JDG played like absolute shit (and yes i know he had a virus). He only had 2 score involvements and 0 goal assists. He’s averaging 7.1 score involvements a game (even after this weeks poor performance). If he’s fit in September he’ll be far more of a problem for Port than he was last night.
Out of all top 4 teams, Port on MCG is not something I’m concerned about. Only injury or our players having absolute shockers could gift Port a win on MCG in September.
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Absolutely rubbish, blokes are getting rubbed out for 2 to 4 weeks for legitimate great tackles and this cheap shot rubbish behind play gets 2 weeks, as usual the afl always had a chance to send a message but fail miserably.
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Adelaide water is p*ss, which is why so much wine is made in SA. They have to have something to drink other than what comes out of the tap.
Coopers must treat the water before brewing.
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TBH I think 1 or 2 weeks would be on par. It was medium impact as the MRO categorised it. How many weeks did you expect him to get?
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Let's take it one premiership at a time.....And next…
This team can definitely win multiples. Not getting ahead of myself. My posting history would suggest that, however we have ALL the NECESSARY ingredients to do this.
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We will have to be on top of our game in all of the finals to win the ultimate. The team is capable of doing that, and the team will believe it too - which is the most important aspect.
We will need luck to go our way in the way of injuries and form.
The way we play, we will seldom blow away teams, as many of us want to. Opposition teams will always get a sniff. However, they will have to compete with us for 4 quarters to beat us. Most teams have not been able to do that. We have shown we are capable of turning it on when it needs to and the ability to win from any position. So we will be very hard to beat but it can happen.
Worry - yes we worry before every game. However, it has been a hell of a season. Let's enjoy it for what it is without worrying too much
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Theres verbal abuse then there's racism. Hitting someone doesn't excuse racism.
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He hasn't been made out to look like a hero at all. He's copped a 2 week suspension.
He was racially abused online. There's never an excuse for that.
What about Will Drew's tackle count. 16.
