2014 Draft Discussion

SizeMatters · Oct 2, 2014

how would he rate compared to this years draft crop? top 40 pick? Don't think we can get two non AFL recruits though? Hope Hanley(s) weave their magic.

Quigley · Oct 2, 2014

After training with the AIS in London he played his first match of AFL when they split the squad. He was named second best (fm) for his team. In his second game he played for Europe against the Academy and was named in the best again.

The kid has a very large amount of talent and I would take him in the top 20 on that basis alone.

As far as if we can pick him he would be a cat B rookie and we can have up to three of them. Cat B is also the category under which we have special access to Qld kids so we would be reduced in the academy kids we could have priority access to.

whatboutbob · Oct 2, 2014

TheBrownDog said:
Can we sign a second category B rookie?

Good point. Aren't we out of cat B spots?

KissKiss · Oct 2, 2014

Quigley said:
Abso freaken lutely

We have a crap load of cap space. Throw some of it his way and get him signed. The kid will be a star.

There was an article about him in the last few days that suggested a few clubs were very interested in him

dlanod · Oct 2, 2014

TheBrownDog said:
Can we sign a second category B rookie?

EDIT: Just remembered that we signed Colm Begley and Brendan Quigley in the same draft, so I assume yes.

whatboutbob said:
Good point. Aren't we out of cat B spots?

We can sign extra Cat B rookies, and I think we've got at least one spot free with Michael's delisting. Conway wasn't Cat B. Hanley Jr probably won't count until 2016 IIRC, as I think he was only coming after a year?

Edit: ZOB is still Cat A, Conway and Hayes were Cat A. Archie, Bourke and Michael were Cat B. Michael's gone. Looks like Hanley Jr will be on our list next year, so he'd fill Michael's spot. If the plan is to upgrade Bourke we'll then have an extra Cat B slot available.

whatboutbob · Oct 2, 2014

ping JasRulz63

rusty08 · Oct 2, 2014

dlanod said:
We can sign extra Cat B rookies, and I think we've got at least one spot free with Michael's delisting. Conway wasn't Cat B. Hanley Jr probably won't count until 2016 IIRC, as I think he was only coming after a year?

Let's hope brothers Hanley get in his ear then.

KissKiss · Oct 2, 2014

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-01/luck-of-the-irish

chopperduck · Oct 2, 2014

No mention of us in that article. Surely Hanley has some weight and surely we could get his interest with having Hanley, and soon Hanley 2 around.

Quigley · Oct 2, 2014

We have not been in a single article about him the whole way along. It would be nice if just once we were the ones to come from teh clouds and grab the prize.

chopperduck · Oct 2, 2014

Hanley being the top Irish player in the game surely has to have some kind of appeal. We've had a few Irish prospects over the years, we should be knee deep in this one.

Seldom Seen Kid · Oct 2, 2014

Just as a point of information, you can only have one Irish player on your Cat B rookie list at any one time (irrespective of what you do with your other Cat B slots). So if you want McKenna you'll have to put him on the main rookie list, similar to how Ciaran Sheehan was on Carlton's main list this year and Ciaran Byrne was their Cat B Irish rookie.

All moot anyway as he's coming to Collingwood

dlanod · Oct 2, 2014

Seldom Seen Kid said:
Just as a point of information, you can only have one Irish player on your Cat B rookie list at any one time (irrespective of what you do with your other Cat B slots). So if you want McKenna you'll have to put him on the main rookie list, similar to how Ciaran Sheehan was on Carlton's main list this year and Ciaran Byrne was their Cat B Irish rookie.

Well there you go... http://www.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/rookie-players

IRISH ROOKIE PRE-SELECTION

Click to expand...

Irish players can be signed directly to a club’s Rookie List under the International Player Rule and do not have to go through the draft. Previously, Irish players could not be listed as Category B rookies but took a spot on the main Rookie List.

Clubs can now list one Irish player as a Category B rookie but for each additional Irish player rookie listed, that player will be deemed to be a Category A rookie and the club will forfeit its last selection in the Rookie Draft for each additional player listed.

Works out better for us anyway - we've got all our Cat A spots left but few Cat B (probably zero, maybe one).

Hollow Knight · Oct 2, 2014

Seldom Seen Kid said:
Just as a point of information, you can only have one Irish player on your Cat B rookie list at any one time (irrespective of what you do with your other Cat B slots). So if you want McKenna you'll have to put him on the main rookie list, similar to how Ciaran Sheehan was on Carlton's main list this year and Ciaran Byrne was their Cat B Irish rookie.

All moot anyway as he's coming to Collingwood

Cheers SSK.

While you're here, would be interested in your thoughts on Cian Hanley (pre knee injury)?

Seems every Irish kid coming into the AFL has someone spruiking them as the best under age player in a generation and their county's next great hope, would be good to hear from someone like you with a more rounded view.

WhiteLionFeva · Oct 2, 2014

Seldom Seen Kid said:
All moot anyway as he's coming to Collingwood

Not if he's spoken to Marty I am more passionate about playing for Down than playing for Collingwood Clarke.

Seldom Seen Kid · Oct 2, 2014

TheBrownDog said:
Cheers SSK.

While you're here, would be interested in your thoughts on Cian Hanley (pre knee injury)?

Seems every Irish kid coming into the AFL has someone spruiking them as the best under age player in a generation and their county's next great hope, would be good to hear from someone like you with a more rounded view.

Doesn't come with the same hype as Pearce but certainly worth a punt. He's a strong runner with quality skills but probably not the same pace or natural flair as his brother. He captained the Mayo U18 team this year so obviously has some leadership skills as well. He'd certainly be in the top bracket of underage talents in Ireland so it's not as if you're taking a flyer on him just because of who is brother is, he's a worthy investment in his own right.

Hollow Knight · Oct 3, 2014

Ironmonger · Oct 3, 2014

^^^

I don't see Peter Schwab in that photo. Is that a surprise?

ZoBlitz · Oct 3, 2014

Ironmonger said:
^^^

I don't see Peter Schwab in that photo. Is that a surprise?

Probably taking the photo. He's a man of many talents.

Lace Out · Oct 3, 2014

Wrighty looks like he might be tanking in that shot.

The Flying Belgian · Oct 3, 2014

Ironmonger said:
^^^

I don't see Peter Schwab in that photo. Is that a surprise?

Not unless they're using those trapezoid table we used to have in primary school.

SizeMatters · Oct 3, 2014

are the Lions a ruthless recruiting team like the Dees? That stare from the recruiter would make me very nervous.

POBT · Oct 3, 2014

I wonder if Rob Kerr was involved in these combine interviews in the past because of his professional background rather than because it was a key part of his role.

Hollow Knight · Oct 3, 2014

I can see Conole in the gap under behind Wright's chin.

Pretty sure that's Graeme Hadley in the zip up Lions jacket.

I *think* that's Alisha Whitelock on the right. If so, very glad the club have a welfare officer there for these interviews.

cheekyLionsFan · Oct 3, 2014

mckenna to bombers?

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