News Phil Walsh - New AFC Coach and Art Critic

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They will be.

Watching him run midfield drills under Choco was s**t scary and uplifting. Couple of poignant moments i wont forget.
I don't know about you but I would think having Choco and Walsh barking orders at you would make me be fully focussed and run hard!
Intense much?? I don't know how the Port guys didn't end up having a break down!
 
Examples please. Please.

He's big on brutal tackling in the midfield and also elite hands under pressure so he used to run this drill with the midfield group where it was all about copping a hit and inside hands to improve handballs at stoppages. There was one rookie list player who kept either handballing around the outside or looping handballs over the packs and he tore strips off him a couple of times. But not just ranting, real direct messages about why this was important and that he'd never make it if he couldnt do these types of tasks. Got sent to the sidelines to watch it done. Then was given a vest and made the go-to player again, and again, and again until he understood what was going on. Turned out alright.

Very big on motivation, positive reinforcement and praise, especially with young players. A couple years later using a similar drill and there was a first year player who was copping an absolute hammering, probably the most brutal training drill ive seen but was hitting the targets with the handballs and he pretty much made Choco stop the rest of the training so all the lads could get around him and gave him some huge praise in front of the group.

Big on positive reinforcement, big on praise, but look out if you are slacking off or doing the wrong thing.
 

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I know I'm re-raising an observation I've already made, but we're going back to an anaerobic run all day type fitness program? Funny how footy goes in full circles. In 2012 it was all about bulk, now it's back to where we started.

Perhaps when the next footy trend comes around we should just stick it out for a few years and then we'll be ahead of the pack.

It was only the AFC bulking up that 2012 season where Sando was trying to copy Geelong. He's just lucky he inherited a bloody fit side from Craig and had few injuries. Most of the good coaches in the AFL over that time saw the on-coming caps to the interchange and developed game-plans based on gut-running and requiring less muscle (Hawks/Fremantle/Port over 2013-14). What did Sando do? Instead of doing something similar, I remember quite vividly him sooking in the media about the impacts of the interchange on the way we played. Yeah, good one Sando:rolleyes:.
 
He's big on brutal tackling in the midfield and also elite hands under pressure so he used to run this drill with the midfield group where it was all about copping a hit and inside hands to improve handballs at stoppages. There was one rookie list player who kept either handballing around the outside or looping handballs over the packs and he tore strips off him a couple of times. But not just ranting, real direct messages about why this was important and that he'd never make it if he couldnt do these types of tasks. Got sent to the sidelines to watch it done. Then was given a vest and made the go-to player again, and again, and again until he understood what was going on. Turned out alright.

Very big on motivation, positive reinforcement and praise, especially with young players. A couple years later using a similar drill and there was a first year player who was copping an absolute hammering, probably the most brutal training drill ive seen but was hitting the targets with the handballs and he pretty much made Choco stop the rest of the training so all the lads could get around him and gave him some huge praise in front of the group.

Big on positive reinforcement, big on praise, but look out if you are slacking off or doing the wrong thing.

I've heard similar stories. Is Pearce the young player you're talking about?
 
Lets not forget how precious our players are. Will they handle it?
anyone who can't can piss off right now for all I care.

no doubt that's why we targeted someone like Glass to tell the leadership group that everyone has to wake up and start acting like professional footballers.

for what its worth I think the players were actually worked very hard last year anyway, the feeling I get though is it was mostly just running rather than getting them out on their feet drilling structures which had a hand in us losing our way when games were on the line.
 
Great to see he landed a job and has actually become a pharmacist. I went through with him during Uni back in 2002 and we thought he'd never finish. Big fella. Chicks loved him. Haha.

Yeah he's a bit slow :p shows you don't need to be a genius, just dedicated enough to do the work and remember the syllabus. Good on him I like seeing footy players branch out after they retire.

He owns his own pharmacy right in the heart of alberton. Gets some interesting characters in there I bet.
 

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What does it say about us when we like to watch other people being denigrated or to laugh at them in their discomfort?
I think you've misunderstood, I don't want him humiliated, I want the player we all know is there to be pushed to get the maximum out of him. He'd be a damn fine player if he pulled him finger out.
 
Thanks for sharing mate - stoked with those stories.

What's his biggest area of concern in taking the top job from your perspective?

None that really come to mind. The only one is whether he can transfer those skills as assistant into being the top dog, or whether he will join the long list of talented assistants who failed in stepping up in the last 4-5 years. But then, those same concerns would be identical for Dew/Bolton/Bassett/Goodwin etc. It wont be another Sanderson, everyone will know where they stand and what is expected of them. If they cant handle it they'll be gone. No 2-3-4 chances.
 
I think you've misunderstood, I don't want him humiliated, I want the player we all know is there to be pushed to get the maximum out of him. He'd be a damn fine player if he pulled him finger out.

He's had that many opportunities, I can't see Walsh would have the slightest effect on his 'training' standards.

I've been studying reality tv and society at uni at the moment, so this whole laughing at others is at the forefront of my mind, so my assumption on what you said. Happy to be corrected :)
 
He's had that many opportunities, I can't see Walsh would have the slightest effect on his 'training' standards.

I've been studying reality tv and society at uni at the moment, so this whole laughing at others is at the forefront of my mind, so my assumption on what you said. Happy to be corrected :)
All good, don't think Sando would have pushed him, not sure if he was there for craigy?
 
For me personally one aspect of Walsh's coaching that I'll be watching closely and feel will be important - both tactically and symbolically - is his use of Scott Thompson. I know Thommo's a club legend and been a terrific player for a long time but I've had the creeping suspicion these past couple of years that it's been more about him (getting a game when injured, getting a possession) than the team...which I know is a big accusation to make.

If Walsh is true to his word of team-first and taking a longer-term approach to build a winning squad then I want to see Thommo playing less games and when he does play being more accountable defensively and spending less time in the centre square so the likes of Lyon, Grigg and the Crouches can get a fair crack. I for one don't think we'll lose much, if anything, in the short term and will gain in the long term...but doing this without causing dissension in the ranks relies on Thommo understanding and accepting that this is the best thing for the team and supporting it 100%.
 
He's had that many opportunities, I can't see Walsh would have the slightest effect on his 'training' standards.

I've been studying reality tv and society at uni at the moment, so this whole laughing at others is at the forefront of my mind, so my assumption on what you said. Happy to be corrected :)

can't wait to read your thesis
 
For me personally one aspect of Walsh's coaching that I'll be watching closely and feel will be important - both tactically and symbolically - is his use of Scott Thompson. I know Thommo's a club legend and been a terrific player for a long time but I've had the creeping suspicion these past couple of years that it's been more about him (getting a game when injured, getting a possession) than the team...which I know is a big accusation to make.

If Walsh is true to his word of team-first and taking a longer-term approach to build a winning squad then I want to see Thommo playing less games and when he does play being more accountable defensively and spending less time in the centre square so the likes of Lyon, Grigg and the Crouches can get a fair crack. I for one don't think we'll lose much, if anything, in the short term and will gain in the long term...but doing this without causing dissension in the ranks relies on Thommo understanding and accepting that this is the best thing for the team and supporting it 100%.
Good observation and I've thought the same over the last couple of years.

I think we all accept our elite players are just that, and we also accept that improvement must come from below.

However the harsh analysis stops there - apart from the ritual whipping of fringe players. There's a whole category of player that escapes the spotlight but they are the real problem.

In the last 2 years Thommo has been at the forefront of that group, together with MacKay and this year Hendo.
 
Big on positive reinforcement, big on praise, but look out if you are slacking off or doing the wrong thing.
exactly what is needed i feel
 
Good observation and I've thought the same over the last couple of years.

I think we all accept our elite players are just that, and we also accept that improvement must come from below.

However the harsh analysis stops there - apart from the ritual whipping of fringe players. There's a whole category of player that escapes the spotlight but they are the real problem.

In the last 2 years Thommo has been at the forefront of that group, together with MacKay and this year Hendo.

You can't bundle Thommo in the same basket as Mackay and Hendo. Not in any context.
 

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