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Carl Dilena believes being granted one of the AFL’s first women’s team licences will provide a competitive advantage in growing female supporter and membership bases.

North Melbourne submitted its application for one of four Victoria licences in the National Women’s League (NWL) last week with Dilena telling The Herald Sun’s Grant Baker that no one has done more for women’s football than the Roos.

“We are very prepared and have a long history in women’s football to hit the ground running,” Dilena said.

“From our perspective we’ve got an existing and robust model for women’s football given our existing and long-term partnership with Melbourne University Women’s Football Club. They are the biggest women’s football club in Australia.

“They train here at Arden St and we support them with player development and mentoring from our coaches.

“They have been able to develop about 10 players who have played in the existing Melbourne and Western Bulldogs teams. So their talent pathways are excellent.”

Dilena said the club’s model was “low-cost, low-risk, ready to roll and commercially viable straight away”. Key planks include the expansion of the award-winning Huddle community program into Wyndham and Tasmania, linking in with a junior academy focusing on the development of girl’s and women’s football.

Dilena said the National Women’s League could be used to address financial inequities in the AFL.

“If you are looking at the longer-term strategy of the AFL, to reduce these inequities the AFL needs to undertake policies which assist smaller supporter based clubs to grow their supporter and membership bases. That is just logical,” he said.

“The concern that I have is that those clubs that receive the first round of licenses will have a competitive advantage in building the female supporter and membership bases as well as their club’s overall brand profile.

“If you just hand licenses to the bigger clubs, you are just reinforcing the inequities in the competition.

“In the interest of competitive balance and the longer term strategic objectives the AFL, it would be logical to grant licenses to clubs such as ourselves who are really striving to grow our supporter bases and being very competitive in the competition.”

Thanks Funky Carl. This summation is perfect. I wish I could have liked GR's post multiple times.
 
We were mentioned last when Gil brought up the various Vic submissions.

On the plus side, looks like they may be expanding it two extra spots.
 
We were mentioned last when Gil brought up the various Vic submissions.

On the plus side, looks like they may be expanding it two extra spots.
Watched it too, a pipe dream considering how we've been treated historically.

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We were mentioned last when Gil brought up the various Vic submissions.

On the plus side, looks like they may be expanding it two extra spots.



AFL National Women’s League could start with 10 teams due to overwhelming demand from clubs
  • a few seconds ago
  • by Max Laughton
  • Source: FOX SPORTS

AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan says the size of the inaugural women’s league is not locked at eight teams due to overwhelming demand from clubs.

Last week 13 clubs lodged bids for licenses in the national league but it was previously announced that just eight licenses would be given out.

The likely breakdown of those sides was four in Victoria and one each in South Australia, Western Australia, Queensland and New South Wales.

However league boss McLachlan admitted on Tuesday night that due to the demand from clubs, the league is looking at giving out 10 licenses and that it would be a matter of player depth.

“The guys are having a look at that, I have to admit,” McLachlan said on AFL 360.

“The girls’ youth championships are on this week. They’re having a look at depth of what’s coming through and what is possible with the age limit.

“There’s probably a dozen or 15 17-year-old girls who’d be in the top 50 girls if they were eligible. So we’re thinking of age limits and what’s the right thing to do ... and whether it’s possible to go to 10.”

McLachlan says he expects the official announcement of how many teams there will be, which clubs will receive licenses and the league rules “plausibly at the end of May”.

“It’s plausible that we’ll come out with 10 teams. But it may be eight and it won’t be six,” he said.

It is expected that Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs will receive licenses due to their strong contributions to growing women’s footy.

McLachlan seemed to confirm this when, in response to AFL 360 co-host Mark Robinson’s firm language suggesting Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs must be given licenses, McLachlan said “I think a lot of people feel like you.”

But with six other bids from Victorian sides, as well as bids from both Western Australian clubs, the league may be forced to expand the pool.

“Maybe you need a big club because Melbourne and the Bulldogs, if they got it, would be smaller clubs,” McLachlan argued potentially referencing Collingwood or Richmond.

“St Kilda has made a very strong case that the fastest growing rate of female participation is in the southern corridor.

“All of Geelong has come behind the Cats, it was on the front page of the Geelong Advertiser. Carlton are doing a huge amount of work through the northern corridor.

“North Melbourne has had an alignment with the University of Melbourne for six years. And that’s just in Victoria.

McLachlan called the multitude of license applications from clubs “really impressive”.

“There are just a lot of different ways (to figure out which clubs get licenses) ... there’s going to be a subjective element and it’s going to be really hard.”
 
Was good to see Robbo say that Melbourne and Footscray should get licenses because of the work they have put in over time, and then Gil agree with him.

I'm assuming the same logic will be applied when allocating Good Friday games.
 
Was good to see Robbo say that Melbourne and Footscray should get licenses because of the work they have put in over time, and then Gil agree with him.

I'm assuming the same logic will be applied when allocating Good Friday games.


Cough *Ballarat* cough
 
Cough *Ballarat* cough

I won't be surprised to see Gil involved in the renaming of the town to North West Footscray one day, fair bloody dinkum.

In fact, now a North supporter has suggested it there will be a Bulldogs submission to the Ballarat City Council requesting it by next week.
 
FFS

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...he-womens-football-front-20160503-gold6p.html


AFL season 2016: Tasmania shafted again... this time on the women's football front
May 3, 2016 - 6:57PM

Caroline Wilson
The AFL looks set to send the cream of Tasmanian women's talent to Greater Western Sydney in another affront to the traditional football state.

With Tasmania initially pushing for its own women's team or, at the very least an alignment with one of its home AFL sides, the league has instead reached an agreement with the state government to dispatch Tasmania's best footballers to New South Wales.

The irony that the AFL — which two years ago took over the game in Tasmania ousting the state's football board — has again prioritised Sydney's west over the struggling football state has not been lost on local passionate supporters.

Recently ousted Tasmanian football CEO Scott Wade told Fairfax Media: "Obviously when the (then) VFL expanded many years ago, Tasmania missed an opportunity to get in at the ground floor.

"If we miss this opportunity to establish our own women's team we may never get another one. It should be something Tasmanians vigorously pursue."

When the AFL Commission convened for the first time in Tasmania last year, commissioner Simone Wilkie, now chairing the women's football advisory group, suggested that the state should consider fielding a women's team. However the league abandoned that proposal.

North Melbourne, who is on the verge of a five-year agreement to play three home games annually in Hobart, has launched a detailed and compelling bid for a foundation women's team. However club boss Carl Dilena has accepted that the Kangaroos' push, if successful, will have no ties during the competition's fledgling years with Tasmania.

"That would be our concerted aim down the track," said Dilena, "but initially New South Wales has an issue with its talent depth so the Tasmanian players will be drafted to play there."

The AFL document outlining the strategy for the soon-to-be-launched national league sent to all 18 clubs states that Tasmania's best players would be drafted by the New South Wales-based team.

The decision to bypass Tasmania has also caused some political disquiet. The state's Greens leader Cassy O'Connor, in a letter to the Premier Will Hodgman, asked why the government had not made a strong case for a women's AFL team.

Hodgman's response, in a letter obtained by Fairfax, stated: "A number of steps need to occur before Tasmania fields its own women's team. 'The 2017 AFL Women's League will provide opportunities for our young female athletes to compete with Tasmanian players to be aligned to the New South Wales team."

The GWS submission remains in the box seat to succeed given the AFL's determination to field a women's team from every mainland state coupled with the fact the Swans have chosen not to bid.

The Giants' proposal outlines the club's strategy to develop the women's game in both Sydney's west and Canberra with the club prepared to stage matches at Spotless Stadium and Manuka as well as Wagga. The club has not proposed to play any women's matches in Tasmania.

The AFL will next month install a new CEO – Robert Auld, an accountant – to oversee the game in Tasmania.
 

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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...he-womens-football-front-20160503-gold6p.html


AFL season 2016: Tasmania shafted again... this time on the women's football front
May 3, 2016 - 6:57PM

Caroline Wilson
The AFL looks set to send the cream of Tasmanian women's talent to Greater Western Sydney in another affront to the traditional football state.

With Tasmania initially pushing for its own women's team or, at the very least an alignment with one of its home AFL sides, the league has instead reached an agreement with the state government to dispatch Tasmania's best footballers to New South Wales.

The irony that the AFL — which two years ago took over the game in Tasmania ousting the state's football board — has again prioritised Sydney's west over the struggling football state has not been lost on local passionate supporters.

Recently ousted Tasmanian football CEO Scott Wade told Fairfax Media: "Obviously when the (then) VFL expanded many years ago, Tasmania missed an opportunity to get in at the ground floor.

"If we miss this opportunity to establish our own women's team we may never get another one. It should be something Tasmanians vigorously pursue."

When the AFL Commission convened for the first time in Tasmania last year, commissioner Simone Wilkie, now chairing the women's football advisory group, suggested that the state should consider fielding a women's team. However the league abandoned that proposal.

North Melbourne, who is on the verge of a five-year agreement to play three home games annually in Hobart, has launched a detailed and compelling bid for a foundation women's team. However club boss Carl Dilena has accepted that the Kangaroos' push, if successful, will have no ties during the competition's fledgling years with Tasmania.

"That would be our concerted aim down the track," said Dilena, "but initially New South Wales has an issue with its talent depth so the Tasmanian players will be drafted to play there."

The AFL document outlining the strategy for the soon-to-be-launched national league sent to all 18 clubs states that Tasmania's best players would be drafted by the New South Wales-based team.

The decision to bypass Tasmania has also caused some political disquiet. The state's Greens leader Cassy O'Connor, in a letter to the Premier Will Hodgman, asked why the government had not made a strong case for a women's AFL team.

Hodgman's response, in a letter obtained by Fairfax, stated: "A number of steps need to occur before Tasmania fields its own women's team. 'The 2017 AFL Women's League will provide opportunities for our young female athletes to compete with Tasmanian players to be aligned to the New South Wales team."

The GWS submission remains in the box seat to succeed given the AFL's determination to field a women's team from every mainland state coupled with the fact the Swans have chosen not to bid.

The Giants' proposal outlines the club's strategy to develop the women's game in both Sydney's west and Canberra with the club prepared to stage matches at Spotless Stadium and Manuka as well as Wagga. The club has not proposed to play any women's matches in Tasmania.

The AFL will next month install a new CEO – Robert Auld, an accountant – to oversee the game in Tasmania.

What a disgrace. Why on earth does GWS need a team, they don't deserve a Men's team. Develop the game at grass roots level with the aim of having a team in the future. If there are enough women playing the game in Tassie then let them play there, do they uproot there lives/family for minimal money and the "great honour" of representing the "famous" Orange, black and white?
 
What a disgrace. Why on earth does GWS need a team, they don't deserve a Men's team. Develop the game at grass roots level with the aim of having a team in the future. If there are enough women playing the game in Tassie then let them play there, do they uproot there lives/family for minimal money and the "great honour" of representing the "famous" Orange, black and white?

I think there are two different things going on here and it's important to keep them separate.

GWS do need a team inasmuch as Sydney haven't applied and there should be a team in Sydney.

But there's no need to send Tassie players to Sydney. Either give Tassie a team (which would be great for that state considering they don't have their own men's team which is a different kettle of monkeys altogether) or allow the Tassie players to align with the AFL clubs that they already align with. I'm sure having a NM women's team who played x of their games in Tassie would be great for both footy in Tassie and deepening the links between North and Tassie.

As it stands, sending the Tassie women to Western Sydney has no logic to it except pillaging Tassie for their talent to enrich a market where there's a lot of money but no passion. There are parallels to the treatment of Tasmania in the men's league but actually moving the players really does make it quite on the nose.
 
I think there are two different things going on here and it's important to keep them separate.

GWS do need a team inasmuch as Sydney haven't applied and there should be a team in Sydney.

But there's no need to send Tassie players to Sydney. Either give Tassie a team (which would be great for that state considering they don't have their own men's team which is a different kettle of monkeys altogether) or allow the Tassie players to align with the AFL clubs that they already align with. I'm sure having a NM women's team who played x of their games in Tassie would be great for both footy in Tassie and deepening the links between North and Tassie.

As it stands, sending the Tassie women to Western Sydney has no logic to it except pillaging Tassie for their talent to enrich a market where there's a lot of money but no passion. There are parallels to the treatment of Tasmania in the men's league but actually moving the players really does make it quite on the nose.
I'm led to believe the standard of the women's game in Tassie is well short of what they'd need for the national comp, so sending the top few players to another franchise makes the most sense for them.

But if GWS can't even be bothered developing talent in the Riverina and just pick the eyes out of the kids who play well for the APS/AGS schools, what are they going to for women's footy in another state? Sucks for Tassie and we would have been a much better partner.
 
Good, we/they are making noises about it.


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-womens-alignment-in-afl-20160505-gonjel.html


Tasmanian Premier Will Hodgman has urged the AFL to reconsider its plan to align the state's women footballers with Greater Western Sydney when the women's national league is launched next year.

Denying his government had reached an agreement with the AFL over women's football and with the state still in negotiations with North Melbourne over a new five-year deal with Hobart's Blundstone Arena, the Premier is understood to have written to Gillon McLachlan this week regarding a women's alignment with the Kangaroos.

This follows Fairfax Media's report of an AFL decision to refuse Tasmania the opportunity to bid for a women's team and instead send its players in the women's draft to play in New South Wales.

It is understood the talks over the new deal between the Kangaroos and the Hodgman's government have stalled with the government seeking assurances the AFL will help fund further development of the game in Tasmania with a financial commitment to a North Melbourne-run academy. While a new deal looks likely to be completed in the coming weeks the government remains embarrassed at the perception it has abandoned its push for a women's team.

The Tasmanian Government, apart from its multi-million agreements with Hawthorn and North Melbourne, also contribute $500,000 each year to the AFL for local community and development programs across the state. However the government had pushed for the AFL to commit significantly more of its own money to fund initiatives put forward in the recently-completed Simon Garlick Report.

"We are committed to working with the AFL to increase women's participation in football, and ultimately to have our own Tasmanian AFL women's team," said Hodgman.

"Given North Melbourne's interest in a National Women's League licence, we believe that it would be a sensible next step for Tasmania to align with the Kangaroos, and work with them to increase participation and pathways in women's football.

"We have expressed this view to the AFL."

Should North's women's bid prove successful that club could make a play for Tasmania's best women with pre-draft selections for marquee players. But as it stands - and in an undertaking the state government had previously accepted - the AFL's strategy was to dispatch all Tasmania's women players who nominated for the draft to play for the New South Wales team.

North has committed as part of the new agreement five-year agreement to developing both male and female footballers across the state in establishing next generation academies for 11 to 14-year-olds.
 
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