Appeal ASADA v Dank (AFL) WADA V Players CAS(Nov), WADA v Dank? New evidence players tested TB4

[jenny61_99]

This is referring to the pies players.

Sorry, my mistake.

 

[peppy la pew]

lol "we"

United we stand

 

[Unknown Identity]

2 players frozen urine samples have abnormally high levels of tb4.

This is WADA'S new evidence.

And here we go..

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news...vels-in-essendon-players-20150805-gisibb.html

 

[Armchair Critic]

Ouch

 

[MightyIrons]

There isn't enough popcorn in the world right now if that report is correct.

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

Bombers. Are. F**ked.

 

[Crawb]

Game Set Match.


Seriously though, if Essendon had just copped some relatively lenient penalties on the chin at the start of all of this, this would have been over for like a year. But instead this club will be tortured until about 2018...

 

[rdhopkins2]

Huge news if true. That wouldn't be good for the Bombers.

 

[spackler]

Huge news if true. That wouldn't be good for the Bombers.

Stay tuned for the usual suspects to jump on and tell us why this wont matter/ is a good thing/ just shows how incompetent ASADA/WADA/afl are...

 

[Big Sim]

Niall really downplays its significance in the article.

Expect it to be laughed off by bombers supporters and anti ASADA elements in the media.

Interesting development after no developments for such a long time nonetheless.

 

[NoAFLinmycomp]

2 players frozen urine samples have abnormally high levels of tb4.

This is WADA'S new evidence.

And here we go..

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news...vels-in-essendon-players-20150805-gisibb.html

The most eye-opening snippet for me from that story ....



I thought it was supposed to look like ....

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

Niall really downplays its significance in the article.

Expect it to be laughed off by bombers supporters and anti ASADA elements in the media.

Interesting development after no developments for such a long time nonetheless.

No way you could possibly talk this down. Direct evidence of the substance they we taking.

Excluding everything we know and the ASADA case, the positive test results should see the two players in question suspended for 2 years automatically.

 

[t_ontour]

How about them other 32 tests that didnt show elevated levels.... ???

No surprise really that The Age have decided to run with this the very same day that the AFL are under the pump.

 

[MightyIrons]

How about them other 32 tests that didnt show elevated levels.... ???

No surprise really that The Age have decided to run with this the very same day that the AFL are under the pump.

Didn't take long. Heh

 

[tesla1962]

No way you could possibly talk this down. Direct evidence of the substance they we taking.

Excluding everything we know and the ASADA case, the positive test results should see the two players in question suspended for 2 years automatically.

Are these 'positive' tests or abnormally high results - there is a difference I think

 

[Big Sim]

No way you could possibly talk this down. Direct evidence of the substance they we taking.

Excluding everything we know and the ASADA case, the positive test results should see the two players in question suspended for 2 years automatically.

He says that the defence layers will argue that it was naturally occurring even if levels were high and also that two players showing those levels does not matter for the 32 who don't.

Me, I would say that if the experts in the lab can say it was certainly administered then it becomes the soft, luxuriant pillow that makes the CAS panel comfortably satisfied...

 

[DapperJong]

Oh cool something happened.

 

[Tyrone Time]

But...but...but....no players have ever tested positive to anything!

 

[spackler]

Are these 'positive' tests or abnormally high results - there is a difference I think

Is it 'cheating' or just taking a few short cuts - there is a differnce you think

 

[FootyGeek]

tb4 or not tb4, that is the question, urine a lot of s**t now essendon

 

[Crawb]

TB4 melts steel beams.

 

[t_ontour]

He says that the defence layers will argue that it was naturally occurring even if levels were high and also that two players showing those levels does not matter for the 32 who don't.

Me, I would say that if the experts in the lab can say it was certainly administered then it becomes the soft, luxuriant pillow that makes the CAS panel comfortably satisfied...

Ummmm.... where have the 'experts in the lab said that it was certainly administered'... or are we just assuming that from the article...

its certainly naturally occurring as well... and that is stated.

 

[tesla1962]

Is it 'cheating' or just taking a few short cuts - there is a differnce you think

I didn't say anything like that. I was wondering exactly what abnormally high meant in this context, where 7.5% showed this. Can these results be explained by chance? What are the thresholds etc.

I was asking some pertinent questions Spackler, not the same old sh*t you just came up with.

 

[FootyGeek]

They will know when the samples were taken.

If it was only two Essendon players on the day or one each on two different days, then the argument can be made that they just happened to catch something that exists for only a very short period of time. Hence the numbers are reasonable in a sample of 32.

 

[Muggs]

2 players frozen urine samples have abnormally high levels of tb4.

This is WADA'S new evidence.

And here we go..

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news...vels-in-essendon-players-20150805-gisibb.html

this is big...