Be afraid: We’ve just made Psycho one of our leaders.

[D_One]

I'll admit that I didn't know that, obviously it's not for the reason you're suggesting. It's because I don't have OCD, and therefore couldn't give a flying **** when other clubs' reports come out, or what they contain.

However, being that your club had to take a $5m handout this year just so they could sack their pissweak coach (only to replace him with another pissweak coach), I think it's highly hypocritical of you to be having a go at supporters of other clubs re their financial situation. I'd be more worried about your own club if I were you. The handouts wont last forever, and when they run out, what's a club like yours gonna do, prey that it never rains on match day? Sue God for driving your fans away with tiny little water bombs? Buy more bay covers? Seriously, your club is pathetic when it comes to standing on your own 2 feet.

Whether or not you have OCD is debatable but there is no doubt that you are pigshit ignorant.

For one, you have fewer assets than us. From our 2009 annual report we have $10.5m, whereas your mob with its millions of supporters and umpteen million in revenue has only $8.7m in net assets according to your 2010 annual report.

How can this be???

Maybe it’s because you were all but wound up by the receivers in the mid 80s. So desperate for money were you that you begged for West Coast and the Brisbane Bears to enter to save your sorry club. Maybe it’s because your management is so incompetent that it keeps losing million of dollars in dodgy hotel purchases.

From Heartbreak hotels for Collingwood

When Collingwood publicly announced it had secured leaseholds on the Beach Hotel in Albert Park and Diamond Creek Tavern, officials spruiked the ventures as lucrative revenue streams, as well as opportunities that would allow fans to mix with heroes.

The Footy Show even crossed live one night to a Collingwood function at The Beach.

Two years later, the leases have been sold, with $8 million wiped from Collingwood's books.​

The only way we could hear the real story behind these missing millions is if it appears on Underbelly 8, 9 or whatever, but something tells me Eddie won’t allow such a story on Channel 9.

Now lets look at Collingwood, the welfare recipient.

First there’s the move to Olympic Park, mostly funded by a very generous state government who have provided substantial funding for facilities leading up to the 2006 Commonwealth games.

From The Ghost Of Suburban Football

Collingwood president Eddie McGuire stood up at the annual general meeting and made his case to shift the club's base to Olympic Park, where government officials had promised whiz-bang facilities.

In return for leaving the suburb that was the source of much of the club's grit, the Magpies will enjoy the benefits of a 25-metre pool and an 80m indoor running track at the former Glasshouse. On the site of the former Olympic Park greyhound track, a 550m running track will form the perimeter around their training oval.


The swimming pool and running tracks will have fewer lanes than the conventional eight, but that is the only pay-off. The $13 million redevelopment, all funded with government money, will also include an 80-seat auditorium and areas set aside for sponsors to peddle their wares.​

But is that the end of the welfare that Collingwood received. Oh no, it only got better when John Brumby got into power.

Eddie: Hey John, we’re running out of office space here at luxury park, any chance of getting rid of the other tenants?

John: Not a problem. Do you have a figure on how much it’ll cost to relocate those people in your way?

Eddie: Yeh about $50m.

John: OK, I’ll send a cheque.

From Collingwood secretly lobbied for park

A SERIES of secret meetings between the State Government and the Collingwood Football Club resulted in the decision to shift the Victorian Institute of Sport from its purpose-built Olympic Park headquarters - just four years after it moved in.

A briefing paper for Sports Minister James Merlino reveals Collingwood told the Government in August 2007 of its desire ''of taking over the entire [Lexus Centre] facility'' because it had run out of office space.

The VIS and Athletics Victoria did not learn they were to leave Olympic Park until April last year, when Premier John Brumby - a passionate Magpie fan - announced a $50 million plan to shift both to Albert Park and give Collingwood sole access to Olympic Park.

Mr Brumby's announcement shocked the VIS, especially after $13 million in taxpayer funds had been spent redeveloping what was the 1956 Olympic Games swimming pool into a world-class facility for the state's best athletes.​

So thats $63m in government assistance to Collingwood and yet you have the audacity to criticise my club for reclaiming $5m that has been taken from it under dubious circumstances.

This is where your ignorance is at its most palpable. Port Adelaide is unique in being the only club to move from a non-Vic competition to the VFL/AFL but we don’t have our own license. Unlike the two WA clubs our license holder has us contractually obliged to play at a venue it owns and charges us exorbitant rents. All this at a venue our fans don’t particularly like. Port pays roughly $12/year for a dilapidating venue that anywhere else in the country would only cost about $8m/year. So if Port spends $4m to $5m more than its revenues the SANFL could loses its license and if Port went belly-up the AFL’s TV rights would lose its value. (TV rights that have seen us have numerous more of our games that are live against the gate). As a result the AFL leans on the SANFL and says “keep the club afloat or we’ll give them their own license” and the SANFL says to the AFL “its all those live against the gate games that the SA clubs have to play that is giving you greater TV money at the expense of the SA clubs crowds”. So to avoid some messy legal stoushes it is in everyone’s best interest to give us enough money to keep us afloat. This game of brinkmanship is far from resolved and has many rounds to go.

So in a nutshell. Port is sustainable if we didn’t have such a shitty stadium deal and have to support a bunch of parasitic SANFL clubs. Also Collingwood gets good crowds and has good revenues due in part to getting some of the biggest handouts ever awarded to an AFL club … which is good as it pisses large amounts of its money up against the wall in really bad investments.

So Ambit Grasper, instead of burdening us all with your ignorance could you please do some research before opening your big mouth or just STFU!!!!

 

[Schulzenfest]

You do realise posting facepalm photos doesn't mean you win the internet.

It's sad because you're trying to make others look stupid by posting them when really you're just making yourself look stupid

Some Crows flogs posts something about Port being poor and taking handouts.
D_One, IN RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE, posts something showing that Port have more revenue and take less handouts than the Crows.
A Colliflog says that D_One is the one being hypocritical.

And I'M the one who looks stupid?

 

[Sekaj]

pot.kettle.black.

That's true. In addition to making himself look stupid on a regular basis, gopower is also a raging hypocrite. Very good point.

 

[Sekaj]

Some Crows flogs posts something about Port being poor and taking handouts.
D_One, IN RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE, posts something showing that Port have more revenue and take less handouts than the Crows.
A Colliflog says that D_One is the one being hypocritical.

And I'M the one who looks stupid?

Anyone who believes information provided by a sociopathic fraudster who can't even tell the difference between dreamteam points and Champion Data rankings is stupid. Which means you are stupid, yes.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Anyone who believes information provided by the Mayne report is stupid. Which means you are stupid, yes.

EFA. And I disagree.

 

[Sekaj]

EFA. And I disagree.

So you don't think agreeing with everything a moron who thinks dreamteam points are the same as Champion Data rankings says makes you look stupid?

 

[D_One]

Some Crows flogs posts something about Port being poor and taking handouts.
D_One, IN RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE, posts something showing that Port have more revenue and take less handouts than the Crows.
A Colliflog says that D_One is the one being hypocritical.

And I'M the one who looks stupid?

You forgot to add that I provide links to support the facts that I present … whereas the best that the Camry Crows flogs can provide is nothing more than opinion and perception. And when they are presented with substantiated facts that differ from their opinion or perception they resort to personal attacks.

 

[Schulzenfest]

So you don't think agreeing with the Mayne report makes you look stupid?

No.

6 no's.

 

[PowerKat]

Whether or not you have OCD is debatable but there is no doubt that you are pigshit ignorant.

For one, you have fewer assets than us. From our 2009 annual report we have $10.5m, whereas your mob with its millions of supporters and umpteen million in revenue has only $8.7m in net assets according to your 2010 annual report.

How can this be???

Maybe it’s because you were all but wound up by the receivers in the mid 80s. So desperate for money were you that you begged for West Coast and the Brisbane Bears to enter to save your sorry club. Maybe it’s because your management is so incompetent that it keeps losing million of dollars in dodgy hotel purchases.

From Heartbreak hotels for Collingwood

When Collingwood publicly announced it had secured leaseholds on the Beach Hotel in Albert Park and Diamond Creek Tavern, officials spruiked the ventures as lucrative revenue streams, as well as opportunities that would allow fans to mix with heroes.

The Footy Show even crossed live one night to a Collingwood function at The Beach.

Two years later, the leases have been sold, with $8 million wiped from Collingwood's books.​

The only way we could hear the real story behind these missing millions is if it appears on Underbelly 8, 9 or whatever, but something tells me Eddie won’t allow such a story on Channel 9.

Now lets look at Collingwood, the welfare recipient.

First there’s the move to Olympic Park, mostly funded by a very generous state government who have provided substantial funding for facilities leading up to the 2006 Commonwealth games.

From The Ghost Of Suburban Football

Collingwood president Eddie McGuire stood up at the annual general meeting and made his case to shift the club's base to Olympic Park, where government officials had promised whiz-bang facilities.

In return for leaving the suburb that was the source of much of the club's grit, the Magpies will enjoy the benefits of a 25-metre pool and an 80m indoor running track at the former Glasshouse. On the site of the former Olympic Park greyhound track, a 550m running track will form the perimeter around their training oval.


The swimming pool and running tracks will have fewer lanes than the conventional eight, but that is the only pay-off. The $13 million redevelopment, all funded with government money, will also include an 80-seat auditorium and areas set aside for sponsors to peddle their wares.​

But is that the end of the welfare that Collingwood received. Oh no, it only got better when John Brumby got into power.

Eddie: Hey John, we’re running out of office space here at luxury park, any chance of getting rid of the other tenants?

John: Not a problem. Do you have a figure on how much it’ll cost to relocate those people in your way?

Eddie: Yeh about $50m.

John: OK, I’ll send a cheque.

From Collingwood secretly lobbied for park

A SERIES of secret meetings between the State Government and the Collingwood Football Club resulted in the decision to shift the Victorian Institute of Sport from its purpose-built Olympic Park headquarters - just four years after it moved in.

A briefing paper for Sports Minister James Merlino reveals Collingwood told the Government in August 2007 of its desire ''of taking over the entire [Lexus Centre] facility'' because it had run out of office space.

The VIS and Athletics Victoria did not learn they were to leave Olympic Park until April last year, when Premier John Brumby - a passionate Magpie fan - announced a $50 million plan to shift both to Albert Park and give Collingwood sole access to Olympic Park.

Mr Brumby's announcement shocked the VIS, especially after $13 million in taxpayer funds had been spent redeveloping what was the 1956 Olympic Games swimming pool into a world-class facility for the state's best athletes.​

So thats $63m in government assistance to Collingwood and yet you have the audacity to criticise my club for reclaiming $5m that has been taken from it under dubious circumstances.

This is where your ignorance is at its most palpable. Port Adelaide is unique in being the only club to move from a non-Vic competition to the VFL/AFL but we don’t have our own license. Unlike the two WA clubs our license holder has us contractually obliged to play at a venue it owns and charges us exorbitant rents. All this at a venue our fans don’t particularly like. Port pays roughly $12/year for a dilapidating venue that anywhere else in the country would only cost about $8m/year. So if Port spends $4m to $5m more than its revenues the SANFL could loses its license and if Port went belly-up the AFL’s TV rights would lose its value. (TV rights that have seen us have numerous more of our games that are live against the gate). As a result the AFL leans on the SANFL and says “keep the club afloat or we’ll give them their own license” and the SANFL says to the AFL “its all those live against the gate games that the SA clubs have to play that is giving you greater TV money at the expense of the SA clubs crowds”. So to avoid some messy legal stoushes it is in everyone’s best interest to give us enough money to keep us afloat. This game of brinkmanship is far from resolved and has many rounds to go.

So in a nutshell. Port is sustainable if we didn’t have such a shitty stadium deal and have to support a bunch of parasitic SANFL clubs. Also Collingwood gets good crowds and has good revenues due in part to getting some of the biggest handouts ever awarded to an AFL club … which is good as it pisses large amounts of its money up against the wall in really bad investments.

So Ambit Grasper, instead of burdening us all with your ignorance could you please do some research before opening your big mouth or just STFU!!!!

that is some pwnage of epic proportions

 

[xamol]

Whether or not you have OCD is debatable but there is no doubt that you are pigshit ignorant.

For one, you have fewer assets than us. From our 2009 annual report we have $10.5m, whereas your mob with its millions of supporters and umpteen million in revenue has only $8.7m in net assets according to your 2010 annual report.

How can this be???

Maybe it’s because you were all but wound up by the receivers in the mid 80s. So desperate for money were you that you begged for West Coast and the Brisbane Bears to enter to save your sorry club. Maybe it’s because your management is so incompetent that it keeps losing million of dollars in dodgy hotel purchases.

From Heartbreak hotels for Collingwood

When Collingwood publicly announced it had secured leaseholds on the Beach Hotel in Albert Park and Diamond Creek Tavern, officials spruiked the ventures as lucrative revenue streams, as well as opportunities that would allow fans to mix with heroes.

The Footy Show even crossed live one night to a Collingwood function at The Beach.

Two years later, the leases have been sold, with $8 million wiped from Collingwood's books.​

The only way we could hear the real story behind these missing millions is if it appears on Underbelly 8, 9 or whatever, but something tells me Eddie won’t allow such a story on Channel 9.

Now lets look at Collingwood, the welfare recipient.

First there’s the move to Olympic Park, mostly funded by a very generous state government who have provided substantial funding for facilities leading up to the 2006 Commonwealth games.

From The Ghost Of Suburban Football

Collingwood president Eddie McGuire stood up at the annual general meeting and made his case to shift the club's base to Olympic Park, where government officials had promised whiz-bang facilities.

In return for leaving the suburb that was the source of much of the club's grit, the Magpies will enjoy the benefits of a 25-metre pool and an 80m indoor running track at the former Glasshouse. On the site of the former Olympic Park greyhound track, a 550m running track will form the perimeter around their training oval.


The swimming pool and running tracks will have fewer lanes than the conventional eight, but that is the only pay-off. The $13 million redevelopment, all funded with government money, will also include an 80-seat auditorium and areas set aside for sponsors to peddle their wares.​

But is that the end of the welfare that Collingwood received. Oh no, it only got better when John Brumby got into power.

Eddie: Hey John, we’re running out of office space here at luxury park, any chance of getting rid of the other tenants?

John: Not a problem. Do you have a figure on how much it’ll cost to relocate those people in your way?

Eddie: Yeh about $50m.

John: OK, I’ll send a cheque.

From Collingwood secretly lobbied for park

A SERIES of secret meetings between the State Government and the Collingwood Football Club resulted in the decision to shift the Victorian Institute of Sport from its purpose-built Olympic Park headquarters - just four years after it moved in.

A briefing paper for Sports Minister James Merlino reveals Collingwood told the Government in August 2007 of its desire ''of taking over the entire [Lexus Centre] facility'' because it had run out of office space.

The VIS and Athletics Victoria did not learn they were to leave Olympic Park until April last year, when Premier John Brumby - a passionate Magpie fan - announced a $50 million plan to shift both to Albert Park and give Collingwood sole access to Olympic Park.

Mr Brumby's announcement shocked the VIS, especially after $13 million in taxpayer funds had been spent redeveloping what was the 1956 Olympic Games swimming pool into a world-class facility for the state's best athletes.​

So thats $63m in government assistance to Collingwood and yet you have the audacity to criticise my club for reclaiming $5m that has been taken from it under dubious circumstances.

This is where your ignorance is at its most palpable. Port Adelaide is unique in being the only club to move from a non-Vic competition to the VFL/AFL but we don’t have our own license. Unlike the two WA clubs our license holder has us contractually obliged to play at a venue it owns and charges us exorbitant rents. All this at a venue our fans don’t particularly like. Port pays roughly $12/year for a dilapidating venue that anywhere else in the country would only cost about $8m/year. So if Port spends $4m to $5m more than its revenues the SANFL could loses its license and if Port went belly-up the AFL’s TV rights would lose its value. (TV rights that have seen us have numerous more of our games that are live against the gate). As a result the AFL leans on the SANFL and says “keep the club afloat or we’ll give them their own license” and the SANFL says to the AFL “its all those live against the gate games that the SA clubs have to play that is giving you greater TV money at the expense of the SA clubs crowds”. So to avoid some messy legal stoushes it is in everyone’s best interest to give us enough money to keep us afloat. This game of brinkmanship is far from resolved and has many rounds to go.

So in a nutshell. Port is sustainable if we didn’t have such a shitty stadium deal and have to support a bunch of parasitic SANFL clubs. Also Collingwood gets good crowds and has good revenues due in part to getting some of the biggest handouts ever awarded to an AFL club … which is good as it pisses large amounts of its money up against the wall in really bad investments.

So Ambit Grasper, instead of burdening us all with your ignorance could you please do some research before opening your big mouth or just STFU!!!!

Thats some research there Rucci

 

[fryingpan]

Whether or not you have OCD is debatable but there is no doubt that you are pigshit ignorant.

For one, you have fewer assets than us. From our 2009 annual report we have $10.5m, whereas your mob with its millions of supporters and umpteen million in revenue has only $8.7m in net assets according to your 2010 annual report.

How can this be???

Maybe it’s because you were all but wound up by the receivers in the mid 80s. So desperate for money were you that you begged for West Coast and the Brisbane Bears to enter to save your sorry club. Maybe it’s because your management is so incompetent that it keeps losing million of dollars in dodgy hotel purchases.

From Heartbreak hotels for Collingwood

When Collingwood publicly announced it had secured leaseholds on the Beach Hotel in Albert Park and Diamond Creek Tavern, officials spruiked the ventures as lucrative revenue streams, as well as opportunities that would allow fans to mix with heroes.

The Footy Show even crossed live one night to a Collingwood function at The Beach.

Two years later, the leases have been sold, with $8 million wiped from Collingwood's books.​

The only way we could hear the real story behind these missing millions is if it appears on Underbelly 8, 9 or whatever, but something tells me Eddie won’t allow such a story on Channel 9.

Now lets look at Collingwood, the welfare recipient.

First there’s the move to Olympic Park, mostly funded by a very generous state government who have provided substantial funding for facilities leading up to the 2006 Commonwealth games.

From The Ghost Of Suburban Football

Collingwood president Eddie McGuire stood up at the annual general meeting and made his case to shift the club's base to Olympic Park, where government officials had promised whiz-bang facilities.

In return for leaving the suburb that was the source of much of the club's grit, the Magpies will enjoy the benefits of a 25-metre pool and an 80m indoor running track at the former Glasshouse. On the site of the former Olympic Park greyhound track, a 550m running track will form the perimeter around their training oval.


The swimming pool and running tracks will have fewer lanes than the conventional eight, but that is the only pay-off. The $13 million redevelopment, all funded with government money, will also include an 80-seat auditorium and areas set aside for sponsors to peddle their wares.​

But is that the end of the welfare that Collingwood received. Oh no, it only got better when John Brumby got into power.

Eddie: Hey John, we’re running out of office space here at luxury park, any chance of getting rid of the other tenants?

John: Not a problem. Do you have a figure on how much it’ll cost to relocate those people in your way?

Eddie: Yeh about $50m.

John: OK, I’ll send a cheque.

From Collingwood secretly lobbied for park

A SERIES of secret meetings between the State Government and the Collingwood Football Club resulted in the decision to shift the Victorian Institute of Sport from its purpose-built Olympic Park headquarters - just four years after it moved in.

A briefing paper for Sports Minister James Merlino reveals Collingwood told the Government in August 2007 of its desire ''of taking over the entire [Lexus Centre] facility'' because it had run out of office space.

The VIS and Athletics Victoria did not learn they were to leave Olympic Park until April last year, when Premier John Brumby - a passionate Magpie fan - announced a $50 million plan to shift both to Albert Park and give Collingwood sole access to Olympic Park.

Mr Brumby's announcement shocked the VIS, especially after $13 million in taxpayer funds had been spent redeveloping what was the 1956 Olympic Games swimming pool into a world-class facility for the state's best athletes.​

So thats $63m in government assistance to Collingwood and yet you have the audacity to criticise my club for reclaiming $5m that has been taken from it under dubious circumstances.

This is where your ignorance is at its most palpable. Port Adelaide is unique in being the only club to move from a non-Vic competition to the VFL/AFL but we don’t have our own license. Unlike the two WA clubs our license holder has us contractually obliged to play at a venue it owns and charges us exorbitant rents. All this at a venue our fans don’t particularly like. Port pays roughly $12/year for a dilapidating venue that anywhere else in the country would only cost about $8m/year. So if Port spends $4m to $5m more than its revenues the SANFL could loses its license and if Port went belly-up the AFL’s TV rights would lose its value. (TV rights that have seen us have numerous more of our games that are live against the gate). As a result the AFL leans on the SANFL and says “keep the club afloat or we’ll give them their own license” and the SANFL says to the AFL “its all those live against the gate games that the SA clubs have to play that is giving you greater TV money at the expense of the SA clubs crowds”. So to avoid some messy legal stoushes it is in everyone’s best interest to give us enough money to keep us afloat. This game of brinkmanship is far from resolved and has many rounds to go.

So in a nutshell. Port is sustainable if we didn’t have such a shitty stadium deal and have to support a bunch of parasitic SANFL clubs. Also Collingwood gets good crowds and has good revenues due in part to getting some of the biggest handouts ever awarded to an AFL club … which is good as it pisses large amounts of its money up against the wall in really bad investments.

So Ambit Grasper, instead of burdening us all with your ignorance could you please do some research before opening your big mouth or just STFU!!!!

tl;dr

Port are s**t

end thread.

 

[RonSon]

63 > 5?

Is this the part Amber Guzzler was having a problem with?

 

[power09]

tl;dr

Port are s**t

end thread.

Good one

 

[Geoffa32]

Some Crows flogs posts something about Port being poor and taking handouts.
D_One, IN RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE, posts something showing that Port have more revenue and take less handouts than the Crows.
A Colliflog says that D_One is the one being hypocritical.

And I'M the one who looks stupid?

Ah yes but he failed to mention that our handouts were used to fund less than half of a $21m asset. The rest funded by a small loan and over 50% from cash generated since the last time we built a (then) state of the art training venue. Rucci is already predicting we will be able to replace this new facility in the mid 2020s, which is similar to the lifespan of the last facility.

Port recieve SANFL/AFL/Govt funds yet we see no real increase in assets. The only reason you have a training facility is on the genorosity of the man who it is named after.

Makes you wonder how inefficient the PAFC are? You have more revenue than us, as D has shown, yet struggle to generate assets and make far bigger losses. Maybe D should spend more time researching that, than the affairs of the Collingwood Football club and its handouts from the Victorian government.

 

[cm_perfect]

Some Crows flogs posts something about Port being poor and taking handouts.
D_One, IN RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE, posts something showing that Port have more revenue and take less handouts than the Crows.
A Colliflog says that D_One is the one being hypocritical.

And I'M the one who looks stupid?

maybe it is more revenue and less handouts for 09, but you have pissed that up against the wall from where I sit.

Any chance OCD_One can provide the details for handouts over the 08, 09 period..my math says at least 12million worth of handouts for that rich club of yours for which you have little to show.

I would like to know the AFC's handouts for the 08, 09 to do a proper comparison. FYI: we used our handout in 09 for an asset not to stay solvent.

 

[cm_perfect]

Ah yes but he failed to mention that our handouts were used to fund less than half of a $21m asset. The rest funded by a small loan and over 50% from cash generated since the last time we built a (then) state of the art training venue. Rucci is already predicting we will be able to replace this new facility in the mid 2020s, which is similar to the lifespan of the last facility.

Port recieve SANFL/AFL/Govt funds yet we see no real increase in assets. The only reason you have a training facility is on the genorosity of the man who it is named after.

Makes you wonder how inefficient the PAFC are? You have more revenue than us, as D has shown, yet struggle to generate assets and make far bigger losses. Maybe D should spend more time researching that, than the affairs of the Collingwood Football club and its handouts from the Victorian government.

Said it better than I did...but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good story..

Never once has OCD_One acknowledged them recieving 12 mill in 08, 09 or factoring that into his stats (with OCD_One the word stats is a term used loosely)

 

[cmndstab]

Wait, so now D_One has gone from frantically trying to find an obscure angle to look at the respective financial situations of AFL powerhouse, the Adelaide Crows, and his team Port Adelaide that makes his team appear not quite so disappointing..... to trying to argue from a position of strength against Collingwood. Madness.


D_One, your posts are akin to an ant standing on top of a hill looking down at a lion at the bottom of a valley and screaming "I'M TALLER THAN YOUUUU!"

 

[cm_perfect]

So in a nutshell. Port is sustainable if we didn’t have such a shitty stadium deal and have to support a bunch of parasitic SANFL clubs.

No-one forced you to apply for the sub license, you seem to forget it was never yours to start with and still isnt.

Its like renting a house and then pissing and moaning about paying someone elses loan off for the last 15 years.

You make it, you piss in it, you lay in it !!

 

[D_One]

Wait, so now D_One has gone from frantically trying to find an obscure angle to look at the respective financial situations of AFL powerhouse, the Adelaide Crows, and his team Port Adelaide that makes his team appear not quite so disappointing

Facts are facts. There has been a reason that your club has been reluctant to publicly post its financials.

You were one of the richest clubs around, now you are one of the poorer ones and last season you posted a financial loss.

You once averaged the biggest crowds in the competition and now your crowds are below average.

In the last few years you have relied heavily on government handouts.

These are all indisputable facts.

..... to trying to argue from a position of strength against Collingwood. Madness.

Not at all. I’m just pointing out that Collingwood has been the beneficiaries of $63m in Victorian state government assistance … and that some one who has taken so much money from the tax payers should not criticise someone that has funds transferred from its private entity owner, especially when that owner overcharges it to rent its antiquated stadium.

D_One, your posts are akin to an ant standing on top of a hill looking down at a lion at the bottom of a valley and screaming "I'M TALLER THAN YOUUUU!"

With respect to the Camry Crows, it’s like an ant looking at another ant and saying “you’re poor like us”. With respect to Collingwood, it’s like an ant looking at rich ant and saying “we’d be just as well off as you if the SA government gave us $63m in free assistance”.

Camry Crowsters want to look at Port and say “Haha you’re poor and you rely on handouts” when the fact remains that the Camry Crows are poor and rely on handouts too … and for exactly the same reasons.

 

[cmndstab]

Camry Crowsters want to look at Port and say “Haha you’re poor and you rely on handouts” when the fact remains that the Camry Crows are poor and rely on handouts too … and for exactly the same reasons.

I don't want to say that at all!

I am feeling misrepresented right now.

 

[Farrahs Fawcett]

Does anyone understand why this D_One charactar tries so hard?

 

[D_One]

No-one forced you to apply for the sub license, you seem to forget it was never yours to start with and still isnt.

Its like renting a house and then pissing and moaning about paying someone elses loan off for the last 15 years.

You make it, you piss in it, you lay in it !!

Fitzroy had a license but they don’t anymore.

And the SANFL only gets to keep its license whilst we are solvent … which means that we can spend about $4m more than we earn in revenues and either the SANFL bails us out or it loses its license.

The SANFL used to make (in real terms) about $12 per year from our 11 home games. We are just saying that if they don’t cut that down to $8 per year they may end up with nothing. If Port fold or get relocated the SANFL will be the biggest financial losers.

 

[Geoffa32]

Facts are facts. There has been a reason that your club has been reluctant to publicly post its financials.

You were one of the richest clubs around, now you are one of the poorer ones and last season you posted a financial loss.

You once averaged the biggest crowds in the competition and now your crowds are below average.

In the last few years you have relied heavily on government handouts.

These are all indisputable facts.



Not at all. I’m just pointing out that Collingwood has been the beneficiaries of $63m in Victorian state government assistance … and that some one who has taken so much money from the tax payers should not criticise someone that has funds transferred from its private entity owner, especially when that owner overcharges it to rent its antiquated stadium.



With respect to the Camry Crows, it’s like an ant looking at another ant and saying “you’re poor like us”. With respect to Collingwood, it’s like an ant looking at rich ant and saying “we’d be just as well off as you if the SA government gave us $63m in free assistance”.

Camry Crowsters want to look at Port and say “Haha you’re poor and you rely on handouts” when the fact remains that the Camry Crows are poor and rely on handouts too … and for exactly the same reasons.

But D how come our revenue has been stable over the last couple of seasons, yet we posted a loss in the last two? Nothing to do with a $21m asset we just built and its depreciation?

Trigg said we would post a loss this year, but have a positive cashflow.

What does that tell you? How would your mate the 3IC of the RBA answer that?

 

[Geoffa32]

Fitzroy had a license but they don’t anymore.

And the SANFL only gets to keep its license whilst we are solvent … which means that we can spend about $4m more than we earn in revenues and either the SANFL bails us out or it loses its license.

The SANFL used to make (in real terms) about $12 per year from our 11 home games. We are just saying that if they don’t cut that down to $8 per year they may end up with nothing. If Port fold or get relocated the SANFL will be the biggest financial losers.

One would thing the biggest losers would be the 14k diehard supporters who love their club. Not to mention a 140 year old club gone.

If the club was ever solvent the AFL would make us a one club town. It will be justified in the AFLs eyes. AFL will look to another market to place "our" second licence. Not much of a supporter are you, seeing your club go insolvent as a positive.

Once we move to AO and the SANFL sell off Max Basheer reserve as Real Estate they can afford to lose the second licence. SANFL will make more from investing that money than the Power generates, plus its share of Adelaide Oval profits.

In any case Port generate more revenue than the Crows, so how is it the AFL/SANFL's fault for where Port are. Should be doing better than the Crows.

 

[Jumbo]

Does anyone understand why this D_One charactar tries so hard?

Your BF 'try hard' stats are interesting:-

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