Opinion Coach: James Hird

[windyhill]

Hird will not resign so he gets the payout.

Spot on. Even more so when you are sueing the clubs insurers for $600k in lost legal fees, when all and sundry said don't ******* do it. TWICE !

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Hird is among those responsible for ruin this club. Let's not forget his responsibility in contributing to our current situation.

Not sure about that. You seem to be rewriting History. Please read Chips book.

I'll tell you what Hird is responsible for though. He's given us our best win/loss record and football in a decade in 2013 before the AFL's bastadry and David Evans softcockness took it all away.

 

[Marley10]

Not sure about that. You seem to be rewriting History. Please read Chips book.

I'll tell you what Hird is responsible for though. He's given us our best win/loss record and football in a decade in 2013 before the AFL's bastadry and David Evans softcockness took it all away.

Hahahhahaha.

He has given us our worst loss in a decade. Not once, but twice. He has made us a rabble, arguably worse than 2006.

You want to waste another year?

 

[ManWithNoName]

Hahahhahaha.

He has given us our worst loss in a decade. Not once, but twice. He has made us a rabble, arguably worse than 2006.

You want to waste another year?

Don't feed the troll.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Hahahhahaha.

He has given us our worst loss in a decade. Not once, but twice. He has made us a rabble, arguably worse than 2006.

You want to waste another year?

How is another year wasted? If we are rebuilding then we need to bottom out and get as many picks as we can. If you think Hird isn't a good coach and will see us fall down further then maybe that shields the next coach from the battering a rebuild does.

Hardly any coaches have survived the initial rebuild.

Hird had us top 4 aiming for top 2 in round 18, 2013. Not many people that can't coach can do that. Maybe he got lucky hey.

 

[Matchu]

A loss would probably consolidate his position.

A belting would show him the door.

BTW I'm not sure if I want Hird gone, but I want something to change.

It just seems to be playing out very similarly to the Ratten situation. I know Carlton were a bit more successful on field that year than Essendon this year but there are signs that Hirdy's reign is coming to an end.

 

[Despair]

This is what happens when you don't offer up your scapegoat. You get to keep your integrity, but everyone takes the fall.

 

[mike14]

it's a shame the *******s always end up ruining useful discussions...

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Which is precisely what I meant. The idea that we should keep an underperforming coach because the players like him is as non-sensical as sacking a coach because the players don't like him.

There is something to be said for it in this unique situation however due to what the players have been through.

Until the end of the season.

 

[Harlequin]

Please don't feed the Trolls

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

We should close this thread until the end of the year. No point going round in circles.

Will be best for everyone's mental state.

 

[Fear Boner]

Seriously any other coach .....would of got the sack much earlier .... But because of who James is to our club we have a delusional fanbase defending this crap

 

[GAsnr]

Posted in WADA but after deletion realised the thread is only for Dons fans. Not sure where to post... mods?

Probably poor timing considering the defeat, but Hirdy said during his post match presser (regarding ongoing WADA investigation) "Players are victims of circumstance... I've taken responsibilty".

Not a troll, but at what point has he "taken responsibility"? Seems to be a large reason as to why some opposition fans (and maybe some of your own supporters) are in the opposite corner to Hirdy.

Again, not a troll just genuinely interested.

 

[ManWithNoName]

We should close this thread until the end of the year. No point going round in circles.

Will be best for everyone's mental state.

Not going around in circles at all.

 

[mike14]

Posted in WADA but after deletion realised the thread is only for Dons fans. Not sure where to post... mods?

Probably poor timing considering the defeat, but Hirdy said during his post match presser (regarding ongoing WADA investigation) "Players are victims of circumstance... I've taken responsibilty".

Not a troll, but at what point has he "taken responsibility"? Seems to be a large reason as to why some opposition fans (and maybe some of your own supporters) are in the opposite corner to Hirdy.

Again, not a troll just genuinely interested.

Like everything in this stupid saga it comes down to interrpretation, in this case how you define 'taking' responsibility and what you feel he individually should be taking responsibility for

 

[Marley10]

How is another year wasted? If we are rebuilding then we need to bottom out and get as many picks as we can. If you think Hird isn't a good coach and will see us fall down further then maybe that shields the next coach from the battering a rebuild does.

Hardly any coaches have survived the initial rebuild.

Hird had us top 4 aiming for top 2 in round 18, 2013. Not many people that can't coach can do that. Maybe he got lucky hey.

He had a multi-million dollar coaching panel surrounding him, including a two time premiership coach.

He is too inexperienced as coach, and 2012 is the best example.

Need someone who has done the hard yards

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

He had a multi-million dollar coaching panel surrounding him, including a two time premiership coach.

He is too inexperienced as coach, and 2012 is the best example.

Need someone who has done the hard yards

So that multi million dollar coaching panel didn't teach him a thing or two or he didn't listen?

I'd say after 4 years of coaching he's done a fair apprenticeship. Not sure what happened in 2012 in relation to coaching. Thought he did well until the team fell over due to injuries because the sports science department could not get them right.

 

[Linda_Lovelace]

List is no good. Changing the coach won't fix that.
But it will clear the air and allow the club to go forward.

Hird rolled the dice and lost.

 

[Doss]

Going to lock this for a while, to let tempers cool a bit and also because it's becoming a haven for trolling.

There's the autopsy thread for general ranting.