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Do you expect him to kick a bag first game back from a year out?
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And also playing 3 or so weeks in SANFL and they wouldn't play him if he wasnt 100% but I know what you mean.
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Pretty much this. Their best players aren't only unlikely to improve but likely to decline now. No-one is coming through thanks to Hughes... so yeah, thanks Hughes!
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I thought Josh Bootsma was 21?
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Dylan Buckley looks like a potential pearler.
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Carlton should trade out there ready made players to GWS just to try bring some young talent into the side. There list is in shocking state.
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Carlton fans were talking about delisting him at the end of this year before his NAB rising star nomination
He isn't great
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Seems decent from the few games I've seen him play this season.
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at the end of 2011 season i posted some thoughts on the blues board. just beaten in a semi against the eagles at subi, i thought they needed to trade a mid or two to GC or GWS to gain 2 of the long list of 6'4" KP's these teams had. BUT NO. as has been for several years now 'they had the list to win' and are now suffering. henderson is good but he's not a number 1 KP.
sounds like the saints in so many ways.
since salary cap & drafting were introduced carlton is yet to adapt to the modern world of afl. still looking to buy/cheat their way to the top.
may they suffer another decade or 4 of nothing.
sounds like the saints in so many ways.
since salary cap & drafting were introduced carlton is yet to adapt to the modern world of afl. still looking to buy/cheat their way to the top.
may they suffer another decade or 4 of nothing.
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LOL at Wallace ever mentioning the word Five again ever.....
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New slogan, I love it!!!
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I was hoping he would be delisted, so then we could pick him up as a DFA, seriously, what would be better than turning a former Carlton F&S pick into a gun at Collingwood. The potential is there and his still slight body is developing well. He was short and a tooth pick when he arrived at Carlton, so immediate opportunities were never going to happen.
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"I am obsolete" would be even better than winless IMHO.
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The great irony is that the ingrained mentality of Carlton as a club (arrogant - we're Carlton * the rest) in which they wrongly evaluated the state of the list after 2011 is what's causing them grief now. After the "dark years", they thought success would come to them instead of working hard for it (on-field and off-field) and if it didn't immediately come, they could simply buy it.
It's resulted in poor administration that still relies on benefactors, poor recruitment/list management that didn't take into account key needs (why did that highly rated Geelong recruiter go to Carlton and pack his bags in 6 months?) and poor development programs/culture that turns players into soft introverts because they buy into the idea that a saviour (was Judd, now Malthouse/Daisy) will carry them to the promised land. Murphy is a changed player. He was fearless in years past, now he's meek and squibbs it with the best of them.
The state of the list is shocking at the moment, but if they are willing to make a few hard moves and recruit/draft smartly, they can have a much better age/talent profile in a couple of off-seasons.
However, if they cannot fix the heart of the club and it's culture (and we've seen this with Melbourne for a long time), it will never improve.
It's resulted in poor administration that still relies on benefactors, poor recruitment/list management that didn't take into account key needs (why did that highly rated Geelong recruiter go to Carlton and pack his bags in 6 months?) and poor development programs/culture that turns players into soft introverts because they buy into the idea that a saviour (was Judd, now Malthouse/Daisy) will carry them to the promised land. Murphy is a changed player. He was fearless in years past, now he's meek and squibbs it with the best of them.
The state of the list is shocking at the moment, but if they are willing to make a few hard moves and recruit/draft smartly, they can have a much better age/talent profile in a couple of off-seasons.
However, if they cannot fix the heart of the club and it's culture (and we've seen this with Melbourne for a long time), it will never improve.
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Isn't he just ........ very awkward. They're certainly going at him but deflector shields on maximum.
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Do you agree with the notion that you should be able to do whatever you want (in an AFL game) as long as you get away with it?
Here's the context, Paul Roos was asked about Macaffers tagging techniques, and basically said that they were illegal but the blame shouldn't be on Macaffer, because the umpire should be watching out for it.
I don't agree with that. I mean, I don't agree that what Macaffer did was bad, but I disagree that it's okay to do things, that are outside the rules, just as long as you can get away with it.
Because, you can argue, the rules are made to be broken, you can look for the loopholes in things, but there's also the spirit of the game.
An example is ducking, shrugging the tackle so you can get caught high. Was that against the rules? No. But I didn't like it anyway. It wasn't in the spirit of the game. Just because you don't get pinged for it doesn't mean it's necessarily right.
Much like the bump rule. People are saying "oh he's gone based on the new bump ruling this season", you know what? I don't care about what the decision is based on this season's system. Because it's a crock of s**t. I just want to know if it's right or wrong based on the spirit of the game.
Here's the context, Paul Roos was asked about Macaffers tagging techniques, and basically said that they were illegal but the blame shouldn't be on Macaffer, because the umpire should be watching out for it.
I don't agree with that. I mean, I don't agree that what Macaffer did was bad, but I disagree that it's okay to do things, that are outside the rules, just as long as you can get away with it.
Because, you can argue, the rules are made to be broken, you can look for the loopholes in things, but there's also the spirit of the game.
An example is ducking, shrugging the tackle so you can get caught high. Was that against the rules? No. But I didn't like it anyway. It wasn't in the spirit of the game. Just because you don't get pinged for it doesn't mean it's necessarily right.
Much like the bump rule. People are saying "oh he's gone based on the new bump ruling this season", you know what? I don't care about what the decision is based on this season's system. Because it's a crock of s**t. I just want to know if it's right or wrong based on the spirit of the game.
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Agree. Only got to watch this evening....
Looks thin, haggard and ill too.
