MRP / Trib. Cotchin & Ellis

[motorvinnie]

Common sense says they get rubbed out. The afl have to be consistent whether you agree with the rule or not. Personally I'd like to see both play. The grand final should be with 2 full strength teams but to say that you hope common sense prevails and they get off is a bit laughable


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Cotchin definitely has no case to answer, he was low in the contest and rolled over the footy (shields was tentative in that contest which made it look worst). Football is a contact game and to me it's play on exactly how the umpire ruled it

Wasn't much in ellis contact I think he may cop a fine at most.

Astbury has no case to answer

Whose to say shields didn't cop a knock in the warm up bloody hell. Talk about slow media

 

[Tigarmy]

What I struggle with,is the penalty appears dependent on the impact to the player (ie concussed or not). The penalty should be judged on the action... it is not illegal to go hard and contest for the ball ... Buddy goes 2 metres past the ball irons out Shedda play on, no issue, no concussion, Cotchin goes for the ball incidental (to be proven "delayed concussion") off to the MRP....seems AFL is always trying to manage the outcome, not the game...


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[Neen]

The bump happened very close to where we were sitting. Shiel's first action was to grab hold of his forearm and shoulder. He didn't throw his head back like Selwood trying to milk a free. It appeared he had a "stinger" on his elbow more than any form of concussion. He got up, moved his arm and shoulder around and was involved in a passage of play that clearly was done without any form of concussion. No free kick was paid to either player. All Cotchin has to do today is go to the club doctor and fail a concussion test. Does that make Shiel's actions the cause of the head high contact ? Common sense should prevail.

 

[gavaniacono]

The afl will likely let cotch off, fine ellis, as they have already taken our jumper away. That will be their reasoning, flawed even if a good result overall.
In a transparent world, the firsy 2 things happen AND both gf clubs get to play in their home shirts as we all know there is no ******* clash.

 

[Tiger08]

Not sure how they can decide whether Cotch caused the concussion or Astbury?

Was worried but now actually think that gets him off.

 

[Alistairsmck]

Stolen from main board.

Yeah it seemed strange that straight after the Cotchin contest, Shiel was up and about and had a couple kicks inside 50, then the concussion gets blamed on cotch. Was at the game and didn't seem much in it, didn't even notice the ellis one. Grimes late one on himmelberg looked worse

 

[Bazzar]

I agree with Eddie, if Cotch gets a week this should go to the Supreme court on Wednesday

Worst case scenario

Miles for Cotch
Conca for Ellis.

 

[rfc4eva]

Johnathon Brown thinks he is fine. Brereton hates anything Richmond , whilst slobbo and basil wouldn't know s**t.

Robbo was about 20 pots deep last night on swan st

 

[tigerwill]

So you don't think either would get
Rubbed out in a normal home and away game this year?

Pull your head in


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Already answered. Incidental contact
Take some your own advice. Pull your own in, it's ready to explode with arrogance

 

[Caveman68]

Common sense says they get rubbed out. The afl have to be consistent whether you agree with the rule or not. Personally I'd like to see both play. The grand final should be with 2 full strength teams but to say that you hope common sense prevails and they get off is a bit laughable


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[Alfar]

Weirdly I'm not too worried about what the MRP will decide in regards to Cotchin and Ellis. I think Cotch will be cleared and Ellis will probably get an early plea fine. Even if they suspend Cotch you can bet our team of lawyers will be chomping at the bit to get our captain courageous cleared.

 

[SavDog23]

The AFL saw the Tiger Army in full voice Saturday night. I'm sure they wouldn't want to see 90,000 Tigers outside AFL HQ Monday afternoon.
Cotchin: Cleared, incidental contact.
Ellis: Fine, Low impact, high contact.

 

[chargers 09]

Neutral observer- I think Cotch will get off. Ellis in trouble.


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[telsor]

AFL tends to bend the rules to ensure the best players are in the GF, and there is enough wiggle room with Cotchin that he's sure to get off.
Ellis will be a bit tougher, and they might rub him out in order to make it look like they're not rorting their own system, but I suspect he'll get a fine.

 

[Groupie_]

Sunday footy show showed vision of a Zak Jones giving a knock to the head earlier in the year that looks worse than Cotchin's and he didn't even get a fine

but he plays for sydney

 

[telsor]

Also worth noting that even if the MRP gives a week, if there was ever an occasion to take it to the tribunal, or even the appeals tribunal, this would be it.

 

[Groupie_]

Also worth noting that even if the MRP gives a week, if there was ever an occasion to take it to the tribunal, or even the appeals tribunal, this would be it.

theyll do it on purpose for the theatre and publicity

 

[sante]

Shiel didn't even hurt his head in the Cotchin contest. It was his shoulder

 

[docko911]

What's the loophole mentioned on the VFL coverage that will be in the 6pm news?

 

[Bazzar]

One of the rare times I agree with Barret, he said the way the AFL have structured the rules around this they will want Cotcin playing.

 

[SavDog23]

So the guy that made the MRP rules thinks Cotchin will get off.

 

[docko911]

The number 1 argument should be it is not a bump. If it is not a bump he can't be suspended because contact was incidental in a contested situation.

It looks like a bump only because Cotchin pulls his shoulder in but the alternative is that Cotchin goes low (gives away a free) or goes middle with arms out and head over the ball, very high chance of head clash in this instance. Pretty much what Cotch did was about all he could but just got Shiel high. Shiel doesn't grab his head though so contact can't even be assessed as low unless there is proof of a concussion which there isn't.

 

[Bazzar]

So the guy that made the MRP rules thinks Cotchin will get off.

Barret said its structured so an incident like Cotch's means you wouldn't miss a granny. He said if it hapend in the H&A he would just get a fine.

 

[Cactus_]

theyll do it on purpose for the theatre and publicity

I would not be at all surprised by this. They'll probably send him to the tribunal just to keep all the talking heads talking.

 

[Groupie_]

Shiel didn't even hurt his head in the Cotchin contest. It was his shoulder

should have hit him harder