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Think people are being a little "millennial" about the pitch. Not every pitch is going to be a five day, finish in the last session with 15 balls to spare . It is test cricket, it is meant to be hard and this was one where the batsmen needed to apply themselves.

It can't have been that hard of a pitch to bat on, Harris made a 50...Harris. England are a shambles though, they should have been able to bat most of today but their technique was really poor, both yesterday and today, leaving balls for height in your first couple is always dangerous and then playing the ball so far in front of their pads...moving pitch you play late.

England did themselves no favours and will probably blame and sack the one guy who would lead them out of it.

Be nice if Australia lent them 3 or 4 players to bolster their batting line up though
 

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adelaidecrows said:
hard to believe 267 was enough to win by an innings.
The pitch was trash though and the mcg ground staff should be embarrassed. What a way to kill such an iconic test by making it a dud from the beginning.
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1990crow said:
100%. Curators at MCG are a joke.
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adelaidecrows said:
They deserve to be crucified.
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I disagree. The pitch was no minefield, eg with variable bounce which can be dangerous.
It had bounce and seam, just like the Gabba.

Aussies made 267 under good pressure from Anderson who bowled really well. Four Innings in that range was possible.
However, Cummins, Starc and Boland were a class above. The wicket was lively, but the bowlers still have to put the ball in the right places, and they did.
Relentlessly.

England are really, really bad.
 
CrowBloke said:
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I disagree. The pitch was no minefield, eg with variable bounce which can be dangerous.
It had bounce and seam, just like the Gabba.

Aussies made 267 under good pressure from Anderson who bowled really well. Four Innings in that range was possible.
However, Cummins, Starc and Boland were a class above. The wicket was lively, but the bowlers still have to put the ball in the right places, and they did.
Relentlessly.

England are really, really bad.
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The ball was seaming sideways.
 
1990crow said:
The ball was seaming sideways.
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Let's agree to disagree, with respect. :thumbsu:
It only has to deviate half a ball width to catch the edge, so extreme deviation looks great, but does not take wickets. All of the highest-scoring batsmen played and missed a lot which is good theatre.
4 Innings scores around the Aussies' 267 were possible, but England are inept.

In Adelaide, Lyon was turning the ball a lot from Day One.. A few pitched outside leg and turned/bounced outside off; nobody complained about that in here.

MCG pitch was a result wicket, for sure, but like I said, no up-and-down minefield.
 
Scorpus said:
If England had matched Australia's total in the 1st and 3rd innings the test easily would have made a 4th day if not a 5th day. Pitch was fine
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Yeah, I agree.

The 2nd day battle between England's bowlers and Australia's batsmen was the most entertaining cricket of the series. The pitch helped a lot with that.

An ideal.pitch has sides scoring 250 to 320. It makes it very even.

Thw problem is England just aren't very good.
 
1990crow said:
Have to say curators got this one wrong. As bad as England were, no test should finish within 2 days and one session.
Batsmen from both sides had a nightmare and personally I think the curator at the MCG should be fired - gone from dead batting paradise to far too bowling friendly. Can't get it right.
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The thing is that they already replaced the curator responsible for the 2017 road. The new curator over-compensated, with the green monster we saw in 2021. They need to find a middle ground, which offers something for both batsmen and bowlers.
 
Vader said:
The thing is that they already replaced the curator responsible for the 2017 road. The new curator over-compensated, with the green monster we saw in 2021. They need to find a middle ground, which offers something for both batsmen and bowlers.
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They just left too much grass on it. A closer shave and it would have been fine.

Mind you, England are terrible. Four of their top six aren't test standard.
 

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moogerfooger said:
They just left too much grass on it. A closer shave and it would have been fine.

Mind you, England are terrible. Four of their top six aren't test standard.
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No one is disputing England were terrible. You only have to look at their FC records respectively and test records to see only Root would give our bowlers a restless night's sleep.

But the fact even Labuschagne, Root (average of just 39 this match) and Smith struggled shows this pitch wasn't up to scratch.
 
All drop ins are different

Adelaide has a deeper, wider tray for instance.

Melbourne were one of the first drop ins therefore less "sophisticated" technology.

Damian Hough said that he had to learn how to prepare a pitch almost from scratch when Adelaide first got theirs. Took him a while to figure it out. Said 100+ years of passed down knowledge basically went down the tubes
 
1990crow said:
But the fact even Labuschagne, Root (average of just 39 this match) and Smith struggled shows this pitch wasn't up to scratch.
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Well, if that's true then a mediocre batsman like Harris must have really failed ...
 
1990crow said:
1) No one is disputing England were terrible. You only have to look at their FC records respectively and test records to see only Root would give our bowlers a restless night's sleep.
2) But the fact even Labuschagne, Root (average of just 39 this match) and Smith struggled shows this pitch wasn't up to scratch.
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1) Yes; "terrible" doesn't usually require qualification, but the Poms (bar Root) are very terrible.
Yet even Root has nicked off behind and to slips @ the Gabba and Adelaide.
That's good bowling.
2) All three wickets have given the bowlers something, but the Aussie bowlers were at their best in this Test.
Labuschagne had been flirting with death for a while and ran out of luck when the Poms finally held the chance he offered yesterday.
Smith was out to Wood, twice (Gabba too), beaten by pace and seam off the wicketS.

Until just after Tea of Day Two, the game was poised for at least a 4-day struggle. Full balls had been driven straight, and any wide balls crunched for 4 (or snicked off, Travis!). The Aussies ground their way to 267 and 85 is not a huge lead. Teams can win or at least draw from 85 runs down.
Just not England. The Aussie bowlers gave them nothing wide and very little that was too short.
Great Aussie bowling + England ineptitude = shattering loss.
 
I rinsed the Corp box as long as I could today.... :$ Thanks England.


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spenze said:
Cam Green helps our bowling unit to become much more dangerous. Having a back up bowler who bowls in the 90s is pretty dangerous, even if he only bowls 10 or so overs in a day. Reckon it won't be long to his batting kicks in as well, kid is only 22, reckon he will be massive in the next decade
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Yes. His fielding is also superb, enormous hands and feet with enormous reach. He just needs a little confidence in his batting.
 
adelaidecrows said:
hard to believe 267 was enough to win by an innings.

The pitch was trash though and the mcg ground staff should be embarrassed. What a way to kill such an iconic test by making it a dud from the beginning.
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Eh? That might have been the best Boxing Day test in more than a decade. No down periods, and the bowlers always had something to work with. Almost reminiscent of the 2019 Ashes series in quality.

Just a shame that pitch was wasted on this England squad and not a capable test team.
 
CrowBloke said:
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Yeah, couldn't be physically "cooked" after 12 days of cricket, but mentally ...
Destroyed.
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It's not just 12 days, it's the whole year. This is a team which has lost 9 on the trot and most badly.
 
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