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Why are we trading our first choice ruckman?
Recruiting EFC Trade/Draft Talk II with F/A rules in OP - Billings for a fourth rounder the latest rumour
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He has Mckernan listed as ruck
By the way both Dempsey and Bellchambers are free agents this year cannot trade them and Pears trade value is nothing.
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yet again, who would want him, so we may as well as Delist or retain the guy
lol love these threads. Whilst its good discussion, we haven't got a say at all. Its all about the coaching staff.
What I'd like to see..
Main list changes -
Retirements:
Winderlich, Fletcher and Chapman - All old and should be moved on.
Delist:
O'Brien - Not good enough it seems.
Maybe Pears - Bit unsure on him, could just stay on the list one more year as he's tallish and our depth for talls is pathetic. Maybe worth rookie Listing him?
Maybe Gwilt? - Unsure, he'll only be solid depth however after Fletch goes we've got no one, but if we plan on taking Mitch Brown in the national draft may be worth delisting for a younger player.
Trades:
Out: Howlett - I like him and total credit for him getting to 100 games off the back of hard work however I don't see him playing a needed role for us in the future. Probally only get us 3rd or 4th round pick. (Don't see this happening though.)
In: Witts for our second round pick - Young, fills a need and could become a great partnership with Mckernan mainly as a forward. Although I don't think our second round pick would be enough worth a shot though.
Free Agency
Out: Dempsey - Needs to go for the development of the younger and many half back flankers we've got and are about to draft probally. (Hopefully second round compensation)
Bellchambers - If we can get a compensation pick and we trade in or get a free agent ruckmen worth letting go of.
In: Leunberger - If we can't get Witts he'll be a good ruckmen until we develop one.
Rookie list changes -
Upgrade:
Mckernan very obvious.
Delist:
Steinberg - Too short and slow to be afl standard defender.
So hopefully we take a minium of 5 players from next years draft including a ruckmen and Mitch Brown and pick him up in the national draft as he would probally play afl next year if we drafted him anyway since he won't make it to our rookie pick IMO. It's been incredibly fustrating only taking 2 players from the previous 2 years of drafting considering how well it looks like we've drafted from them years.
Only reason our list is in bad shape currently is because we have zero young kpps developing on the list. Last young Talls drafted were Gregory now delisted and Daniher. Hopefully we nail this draft though instead of just been our usual solid.
Main list changes -
Retirements:
Winderlich, Fletcher and Chapman - All old and should be moved on.
Delist:
O'Brien - Not good enough it seems.
Maybe Pears - Bit unsure on him, could just stay on the list one more year as he's tallish and our depth for talls is pathetic. Maybe worth rookie Listing him?
Maybe Gwilt? - Unsure, he'll only be solid depth however after Fletch goes we've got no one, but if we plan on taking Mitch Brown in the national draft may be worth delisting for a younger player.
Trades:
Out: Howlett - I like him and total credit for him getting to 100 games off the back of hard work however I don't see him playing a needed role for us in the future. Probally only get us 3rd or 4th round pick. (Don't see this happening though.)
In: Witts for our second round pick - Young, fills a need and could become a great partnership with Mckernan mainly as a forward. Although I don't think our second round pick would be enough worth a shot though.
Free Agency
Out: Dempsey - Needs to go for the development of the younger and many half back flankers we've got and are about to draft probally. (Hopefully second round compensation)
Bellchambers - If we can get a compensation pick and we trade in or get a free agent ruckmen worth letting go of.
In: Leunberger - If we can't get Witts he'll be a good ruckmen until we develop one.
Rookie list changes -
Upgrade:
Mckernan very obvious.
Delist:
Steinberg - Too short and slow to be afl standard defender.
So hopefully we take a minium of 5 players from next years draft including a ruckmen and Mitch Brown and pick him up in the national draft as he would probally play afl next year if we drafted him anyway since he won't make it to our rookie pick IMO. It's been incredibly fustrating only taking 2 players from the previous 2 years of drafting considering how well it looks like we've drafted from them years.
Only reason our list is in bad shape currently is because we have zero young kpps developing on the list. Last young Talls drafted were Gregory now delisted and Daniher. Hopefully we nail this draft though instead of just been our usual solid.
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I have this weird feeling that Bellchambers will retire. He's had serious injuries to his ankle and knee on his right leg and a navicular on his left. To try to come play football with those issues as a bloke at 110 kg isn't the most sensible option.
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Myers? I'd assume atleast one of Cooney/stanton in that team.
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Jason Laycock all over again, Tassie ruckman curse.
Stanton what could we get for him?
eth-dog
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Nothing, because trading him would be all kinds of stupid, and he's a FA.
Oh forgot that he's eligible as a free agent.
A bag of peanuts.
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Retire: Fletcher, Chapman, Winderlich........
Trade: Take just about any possible offer for Dempsey, Pears, Howlett, NOB, Hams
Consider any offers for Bellchambers, Hibberd, Myers, Kav, Melk, Cooney.
Delist (if no trade)- 2 of Gwilt, Stein & Pears. NOB, Hams.
Unsure: Kav
I love Hibberd, but I think he is the best carrot to trade. Myers is too important, and Bellchambers is dangerous to trade. If someone throws a first rounder for Hibberd, we should take it. He has had a s**t year, very frustrating.
Trade: Take just about any possible offer for Dempsey, Pears, Howlett, NOB, Hams
Consider any offers for Bellchambers, Hibberd, Myers, Kav, Melk, Cooney.
Delist (if no trade)- 2 of Gwilt, Stein & Pears. NOB, Hams.
Unsure: Kav
I love Hibberd, but I think he is the best carrot to trade. Myers is too important, and Bellchambers is dangerous to trade. If someone throws a first rounder for Hibberd, we should take it. He has had a s**t year, very frustrating.
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You're right of course. We should trade them out instead.
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Yep, forgot Myers. McKernan, Myers and Merret. All the rest depends on form. Cooney could very well be in the side.
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Retire: Fletch, Chapman, Windy
Re-sign: Kavanagh, Fantasia, Stanton, Carlisle (if we can)
Lean towards re-signing: Hams (1 year, also a candidate to be rookied), Browne, Dalgleish
Unsure: Gwilt, Melksham (trade value?)
Lean towards delisting: Bellchambers (really depends on whether we can convince another ruck to come over), NOB
Delist/leave to FA: Pears, Dempsey
That's at least 5 and possibly 9 new spots on the list, the latter being pretty worrying. We should probably look to rookie a couple of guys, i.e. Hams or even maybe Gwilt. It seems like Aylett's on the way out, along with Steinberg (although his promotion adds confusion to this).
Re-sign: Kavanagh, Fantasia, Stanton, Carlisle (if we can)
Lean towards re-signing: Hams (1 year, also a candidate to be rookied), Browne, Dalgleish
Unsure: Gwilt, Melksham (trade value?)
Lean towards delisting: Bellchambers (really depends on whether we can convince another ruck to come over), NOB
Delist/leave to FA: Pears, Dempsey
That's at least 5 and possibly 9 new spots on the list, the latter being pretty worrying. We should probably look to rookie a couple of guys, i.e. Hams or even maybe Gwilt. It seems like Aylett's on the way out, along with Steinberg (although his promotion adds confusion to this).
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Sign them both up and hope one is fit while the other is injured?
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Knowing us we'd probably play the injured one too
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Lose Carlisle for the Dogs first, Bellchambers for 2nd round compo and trade Hibberd for a pick in the 20-30 range? Looks like the only semi-realistic way to do it and I can't say I like it.
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