Recruiting EFC Trade/Draft Talk II with F/A rules in OP - Billings for a fourth rounder the latest rumour

What do we do with the #1 pick?

  • Use it

    Votes: 73 47.4%
  • Trade it for multiple top 10 picks

    Votes: 65 42.2%
  • Trade it for players

    Votes: 3 1.9%
  • Trade it for players and first round picks

    Votes: 13 8.4%

  • Total voters
    154

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Continued on from here , this is a thread to discuss trade and draft issues.

Please keep in mind, the purpose of this thread is to keep the Player Watch threads on track, as previously we found that there was a tendency for those player threads to sidetrack into discussions that didn't involve the player the thread was dedicated to.

Also, here are the rules for Free Agency, since people ask pretty frequently!

The AFL introduced free agency at the end of the 2012 season, giving players another vehicle where they can transfer from one club to another. Free agency is a common form of player movement in major football and sporting codes around the world.
Under rules agreed between the AFL and AFL Players’ Association in February 2010, restricted and unrestricted free agents may consider offers from rival clubs during the post-season period.
An unrestricted free agent can automatically move to the club of his choice.
An offer to a restricted free agent may be matched by his club, which has right of first refusal over his services. If the unrestricted free agent does not wish to remain with his original club, he must enter the draft or seek a trade.
Compensation in the form of AFL allocated draft picks apply to clubs with a net loss of free agents. This is based on a formula determined by the AFL.
The Veteran’s List allowance has been amended to apply to players with 10 years’ service at one club and will be based on a set amount of Total Player Payment (TPP) per player calculated as a percentage of TPP.
The free agency system started at the end of 2012 and will remain until the end of 2016.

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Players who are in the top 25 per cent of salaries at their club (that is, in the club’s top nine-10 paid players) are eligible for restricted free agency the first time they are out of contract, if they have served at least eight years with the club.
For example, a player who is contracted after his seventh year for one, two, three, four or five years will be eligible for restricted free agency when next out of contract having completed either eight, nine, 10, 11 or 12 seasons respectively.
A top 25 per cent player is eligible for unrestricted free agency when next out of contract, provided a player can never be an unrestricted free agent until completing at least 10 years’ service at one club.
For example, a player who signs a one-year contract after his eighth season is not eligible for unrestricted free agency until he has completed at least 10 years’ service.
Restricted free agents have the right to move to a club of their choice, subject to the current club’s right of first refusal over their services. That is, if the current club can ‘match’ the offer from a suitor club, the player must stay or enter the draft. The tabled offer includes only football payments and Additional Service Agreements (ASA) amounts.

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Primary List
Players delisted by a club are unrestricted free agents but a player who retires or delists himself is not eligible to be a free agent.
Players who are not in the top 25 per cent of salaries at their club (that is, in the club’s top nine-10 paid players) are eligible for unrestricted free agency if they have served at least eight years with the club.
Rookie List
A rookie list player who retires is not eligible to be a free agent.
A first-year rookie not receiving a second-year rookie contract offer is considered a delisted player and therefore is an unrestricted free agent.
A first-year rookie not accepting a second-year rookie contract offer is not considered a delisted player and must nominate and go through the draft.
A second-year rookie not accepting a third-year rookie contract offer is considered a delisted player and therefore is an unrestricted free agent.

HOW THE TOP 25 PER CENT IS DETERMINED
The top 25 per cent of players on a club’s list (top nine-10 paid players) are based on the guaranteed contract values in the relevant contract year (including ASAs).
The AFL releases the names of those eligible players before round one of each season. An updated list of restricted and unrestricted free agents is issued during the season when changes occur and a final list issued during Grand Final week.

MATCHING OFFERS
A contract offer is matched if the football payments and ASAs are equivalent under the offer and the contract proposed by the player’s current club. To qualify as a matching offer, the player’s current club must make an offer on the same terms as the new offer tabled by the player including:
• Contract length;
• Base payments;
• Total match payments;
• Total ASA payments;
Total performance incentives based on AFL awards or honours, club best and fairest finish or games played (not including finals). Any incentives for team performance do not have to be matched. A player cannot table an offer to be matched for less than a two-year contract length.

COMPENSATION
A club that has a net loss of players transferring to/from other clubs as free agents in one transfer period is entitled to compensation via National Draft picks allocated by the AFL.
The compensation formula produces a points rating for players based on:
1. The new contract of the free agent;
2. The age of the free agent.
Draft picks are allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period.
Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places:
• 1st round
• end of 1st round
• 2nd round
• end of 2nd round
• 3rd round
In applying the formula, an expert committee reviews the formula outcomes. The committee has the power to recommend alternative outcomes to GM – Football Operations where the formula produces a materially anomalous result.
 
subbed. Pre-Season and Rookie drafts are both on Wednesday morning at about 11 (rookie draft will start at about 11.10)

Names for people to muse over in the meantime...

Templeton - Tough iside mid/hb who runs all day.
Tsitsas - Ethnic Luke Parker
Reynolds - Chris Knights clone
Conlon - Spring heeled tall who's good in the air
Cameron - Mobile ruck man from WA
Cameron - really sharp small forward who takes the game on
Hourigan - Undersized kph who leads hard and can play both ends
King - 200cm athletic tall who could be developed anywhere
Owen - 190cm utility 16 tac games for Calder, 14 times in the best.
Battersby - short but duel sided flanker/mid, bit Merrett-ish.
Wasley-Black - versatile nt utility, really good kick.
Heavyside - short but hard at it, bit like Matt Crouch from this year.
Smith - hasn't played much footy at all, 200cm and athletic, bit Daw-ish
Kearns - Clever medium forward/mid, makes things happen
Hampson - Classy utility, uses it well and just seems to glide around
Herbert - tall, athletic flanker, can take a mark and kick a goal
Wilson - Similar to Dayle Garlett, classy, indigenous small with vg skills
Sokol - hard running hf/mid who leads and marks well
Willsmore - Bit of Gunston in him, 3rd tall who can operate further afield
Scott - 190cm FF, good hands and kicks goals, might be too short for what he is
Cavarra - live wire small mid who loves the tough stuff.
Thurlow - athletic marking key forward, 20 y/o, maybe a late bloomer?
Fort - 19 y/o ruck man who i thought went alright in the VFL this year.
Fort - ^'s younger bro, more a kpp than ruck, but has really good hands IMO.
Ellis - Tall mid from QLD who is a good little package, reckon he's a hidden gem cos of a shoulder injury and him being a div 2 kid.
 

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Gee seems pointless to make a new thread now. There only one real week to go, and we already let it get out to 12,000 posts.

First Rookie Pick - Scipione (or Duscher maybe)
Second Rookie Pick - Sikora
 
Conlon and Reynolds for mine. One as the athletic KPF/ruck and the other as the roaming high half forward/tall mid.
 
Reynolds is similar in style to Scott Lucas for mine and with Crameri/Gumby gone he looms as the logical pick

And according to the Herald Sun, he's drawn comparisons to both Buddy and Gunston (probably more Gunston than Buddy though as he's a better kick than Buddy but maybe lacks that x-factor that Buddy has).
 
Would prefer Kavanagh, Browne, Colyer as mids before possible rookie selections (Templeton,

Id be seriously looking at Darcy Hourigan with our first pick. Hulking forward in the Crameri mould. Could he play as a true KPP? that is what I want to know.

Really like the sound of young Conlon for our second rookie pick, doubt he will be there though.
 
Would prefer Kavanagh, Browne, Colyer as mids before possible rookie selections (Templeton,

Id be seriously looking at Darcy Hourigan with our first pick. Hulking forward in the Crameri mould. Could he play as a true KPP? that is what I want to know.

Really like the sound of young Conlon for our second rookie pick, doubt he will be there though.


Ideal world I'd go Darcy Cameron and then Jimmy Tsitsas with an eye for a kpf with that end of first rounder next year.

Hourigan has 6 cms on Crameri fwiw, Stew was a very rare case of a short player who played tall but couldn't play small, whereas with Hourigan you'd be looking at a legit key forward who's a tad on the short side but could hopefully get by on leading to good spots and having good hands. Reminds me a bit of a younger roughead to be perfectly honest.

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dat puppyfat
 

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Ideal world I'd go Darcy Cameron and then Jimmy Tsitsas with an eye for a kpf with that end of first rounder next year.

Hourigan has 6 cms on Crameri fwiw, Stew was a very rare case of a short player who played tall but couldn't play small, whereas with Hourigan you'd be looking at a legit key forward who's a tad on the short side but could hopefully get by on leading to good spots and having good hands. Reminds me a bit of a younger roughead to be perfectly honest.

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dat puppyfat

He would be that perfect foil for Daniher.

Daniher on his bike up to the wings, Nick Riewoldt style with Hourigan staying predominantly inside the forward 50. He averaged 2.5 goals a game in 2013. Decent numbers for a KPF.

I really do think we go for a KPF. I know next year is suppose to be a bumper year for KPP's, Hourigan seems like a player, similar to Crameri who could push to a flank as a 3rd tall.
 
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